Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:53 pm
tylerdurdenisabluebird wrote:i CANNOT BELIEVE that a manager would talk about something like that during the MOST important period for our club. I'd take what he said as destabilising to the club - entertaining scenarios if we fail to go up. He should not even let the possibility of not going up enter his mind - if he has doubts, then that impacts on the players.
Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:57 pm
Wayne S wrote:tylerdurdenisabluebird wrote:i CANNOT BELIEVE that a manager would talk about something like that during the MOST important period for our club. I'd take what he said as destabilising to the club - entertaining scenarios if we fail to go up. He should not even let the possibility of not going up enter his mind - if he has doubts, then that impacts on the players.
I am not sure he has said in that piece anything about failing to go up.
Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:59 pm
brilliantbluebirds09 wrote:quadsas wrote:He has to go even if we get promoted.
now that's silly isn't it.
Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:25 pm
Wayne S wrote:Used to think he had to go.
But if we are still in the Championship next season, I know the momentum would seem slow but at least it will still be with us and DJ. He will slowly but surely be learning from the failures. A new manager will not guarantee progress. DJ will only need minor changes to get it right, anyone else will make mass changes that could derail just as easy as succeed.
What do you think?
In the BBC piece he seems desperate to stay on. Does he want to finish what he started or does he just know a good thing when it comes his way?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13068106.stm
Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:35 pm
Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:45 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Sorry but just because we beat Derby Doncaster And Sheff Utd dosen't make D.J Sir Alex. He is more than capable of loosing every game till the end of the season and don't say he can't Remember our last season at Ninian Park when all we needed was one point. We all need to give 100% support until the end of the season and that is what we will do but i still feel the same way about DJ.
Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:16 pm
Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:02 am
Wayne S wrote:Used to think he had to go.
But if we are still in the Championship next season, I know the momentum would seem slow but at least it will still be with us and DJ. He will slowly but surely be learning from the failures. A new manager will not guarantee progress. DJ will only need minor changes to get it right, anyone else will make mass changes that could derail just as easy as succeed.
What do you think?
In the BBC piece he seems desperate to stay on. Does he want to finish what he started or does he just know a good thing when it comes his way?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13068106.stm
Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:16 am
Nuclearblue wrote:Sorry but just because we beat Derby Doncaster And Sheff Utd dosen't make D.J Sir Alex.
Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:22 am
Wayne S wrote:Used to think he had to go.
But if we are still in the Championship next season, I know the momentum would seem slow but at least it will still be with us and DJ. He will slowly but surely be learning from the failures. A new manager will not guarantee progress. DJ will only need minor changes to get it right, anyone else will make mass changes that could derail just as easy as succeed.
What do you think?
In the BBC piece he seems desperate to stay on. Does he want to finish what he started or does he just know a good thing when it comes his way?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13068106.stm
Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:28 am
tylerdurdenisabluebird wrote:Mate I think anyone who is saying DJ should stay, even if we don't get promoted, is dull.
Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:33 am
tylerdurdenisabluebird wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Sorry but just because we beat Derby Doncaster And Sheff Utd dosen't make D.J Sir Alex. He is more than capable of loosing every game till the end of the season and don't say he can't Remember our last season at Ninian Park when all we needed was one point. We all need to give 100% support until the end of the season and that is what we will do but i still feel the same way about DJ.
Mate I think anyone who is saying DJ should stay, even if we don't get promoted, is dull. That man should have to feel like he has to fight for his job. What motivation does he have if he knows he can get away with messing up again, and stay in a job.
And they say we're negative...
Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:35 am
tylerdurdenisabluebird wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Sorry but just because we beat Derby Doncaster And Sheff Utd dosen't make D.J Sir Alex. He is more than capable of loosing every game till the end of the season and don't say he can't Remember our last season at Ninian Park when all we needed was one point. We all need to give 100% support until the end of the season and that is what we will do but i still feel the same way about DJ.
Mate I think anyone who is saying DJ should stay, even if we don't get promoted, is dull. That man should have to feel like he has to fight for his job. What motivation does he have if he knows he can get away with messing up again, and stay in a job.
And they say we're negative...
Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:01 am
Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:08 am
carlccfc wrote:As this thread is pointless because of the fact we are going up, I would like to point people in the direction of a great manager Sir Alex Ferguson, after a little over 3 years in charge Fergie was one game away from being sacked as United boss, they faced Forest in an FA Cup tie and Mark Robins scored the only goal to save Fergie's job.
United went on to win the cup that season in 1989-90 and Fergie had his first bit of success as manager at the club, it took another 2 years for Fergie to overcome his sceptics finally and the rest they say is history.
Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:15 am
tylerdurdenisabluebird wrote:Naïve, blinkered, heads in sand, dull...
No matter what you want to call it, if this scenario unfolds where he stays on following yet another bottling (with a quality squad this time), then keeping the man in the job would be a disaster. If he can't do it with this squad, then he never will. The same thing will only happen again next season in this case.
Most of you who like him, earlier in the season, kept repeating the mantra 'give him until the end of the season'. That's what we are doing. Some even said he should walk if we fail. I can't see what has changed.
Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:19 am
Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:23 am
tylerdurdenisabluebird wrote:Ok Bob mate, I apologise to you personally for labelling you that. Some of the others though are very deserving of it.
Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:45 am
boxerbob wrote:[annis is dj's biggest critic on here
Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:01 am
Bakedalasker wrote:boxerbob wrote:[annis is dj's biggest critic on here
I make Annis look like DJs best mate.
Uh.
Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:25 am
Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:43 pm
Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:59 pm
Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:59 pm
castleblue wrote:Wayne S wrote:Used to think he had to go.
But if we are still in the Championship next season, I know the momentum would seem slow but at least it will still be with us and DJ. He will slowly but surely be learning from the failures. A new manager will not guarantee progress. DJ will only need minor changes to get it right, anyone else will make mass changes that could derail just as easy as succeed.
What do you think?
In the BBC piece he seems desperate to stay on. Does he want to finish what he started or does he just know a good thing when it comes his way?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13068106.stm
Just a couple of things about that BBC article and the biggest one is that at least he has admitted he was talking to other clubs, or at least his agent was, about taking over at another club. How many people have had a go at Annis when he has said DJ had his agent touting him around last season well here is the proof direct from the man himself. It just goes to show there is no loyalty in football with either players or managers and DJ is no different.
As for asking TG for guarantees about further investment and being in it for the long run that just stink of his arrogence because after his performance in the playoff final he should have had his prayer mat out begging to stay.
As for changing the manager is no guarantee of success well Neil Warnock is in his first full season as QPR manager, Paul Lambert at Norwich, Brendan Rodgers at Swansea and Brian McDermott at Reading are all good examples of where changing a manager can have a positive effect.
If we fail this season I believe DJ should go and more importantly he should drop on his sword rather than wait to be sacked but I doubt he will do that he will probably wait and see how much further he can ride the gravy train that is Cardiff City Football Club.
Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:28 pm
Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:38 pm
Wayne S wrote:Used to think he had to go.
But if we are still in the Championship next season, I know the momentum would seem slow but at least it will still be with us and DJ. He will slowly but surely be learning from the failures. A new manager will not guarantee progress. DJ will only need minor changes to get it right, anyone else will make mass changes that could derail just as easy as succeed.
What do you think?
In the BBC piece he seems desperate to stay on. Does he want to finish what he started or does he just know a good thing when it comes his way?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13068106.stm
Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:59 pm
Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:30 pm
Wizzard wrote:5 games left...maybe 8 nerves are wrecked but i hope Jones does it
Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:56 am
Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:12 am