All this moaning about Matthews

The damage was done a long time ago by the looks with another contract saga , if the boy wont sign a new contract then £500,000 at the end of the day is good business , hes not going to get a game and can leave for nothing in the summer - the question is who is really to blame ?

DJ is the one to blame for sure, no doubt bout that

dj to blame but if there was toss up between burke or matthews being sold which one would u sell if the offer good enough.

Matthews as he has shown no desire to stay , where as burke has

Matthews as he has shown no desire to stay , where as burke has

for me it was between him matthews or burke staying but that my opinion

Matthews as he has shown no desire to stay , where as burke has

Has he? Why would that be - because he's not getting picked, clearly fallen behind Super Kev, Quinn, Blake for RB spot, behind JET, Burke, Whitts for right midfield role.

We dragged our feet making a contract offer...

So what rationale do you have for Matthews wanting to stay? Wouldn't you criticise him for staying on purely to get a pay packet, without featuring regularly in first team other than on bench with no reserve side?

Matthews as he has shown no desire to stay , where as burke has

Has he? Why would that be - because he's not getting picked, clearly fallen behind Super Kev, Quinn, Blake for RB spot, behind JET, Burke, Whitts for right midfield role.

We dragged our feet making a contract offer...

So what rationale do you have for Matthews wanting to stay? Wouldn't you criticise him for staying on purely to get a pay packet, without featuring regularly in first team other than on bench with no reserve side?

and theres only one person to blame why he aint getting picked and hes down the pecking order and that is mathews himself!!

Matthews as he has shown no desire to stay , where as burke has

Has he? Why would that be - because he's not getting picked, clearly fallen behind Super Kev, Quinn, Blake for RB spot, behind JET, Burke, Whitts for right midfield role.

We dragged our feet making a contract offer...

So what rationale do you have for Matthews wanting to stay? Wouldn't you criticise him for staying on purely to get a pay packet, without featuring regularly in first team other than on bench with no reserve side?

and theres only one person to blame why he aint getting picked and hes down the pecking order and that is mathews himself!!

how about Naylor starting every single game even though he has been abysmal at times??? Why doesnt one of our hot young prospects deserve the same opportunity? Why didnt DJ slate Hudson or Naylor to the media when theyve given an abysmal performance but he chose to slate Matthews! I feel very sorry for him, he's a young, talented guy who has been completely bombed out by the manager and the club obviously didnt make him feel wanted as they also dragged their feet over his contract! I wish him all the best, he has so much potential but we would rather pick up old players whose best days are behind them than nurture one of the top talents in Wales!

matthews hasnt been doing it right back this year so what makes u think hell do it at left back.and just for a moment have a think and perhaps mathews wants to leave and thats why he hasnt signed a contract .he took naylor off against watford away after 20 odd minutes thats humiliation enough dont you think.and im sure matthews come on that game and could have been taken off in the same amount of time!!so dont go pointing all the blame at jones when matthews has some explaining to do about his performances and commitment aswell!! theres two sides to every coin!!:ayatollah:

DJ doesnt slate the older more experianced players because chances are they know how bad they have fucked up themselves. Tell me last time you heard alex f, wenger, ancelloti or any manager criticise his older players!

Matthews as he has shown no desire to stay , where as burke has

Has he? Why would that be - because he's not getting picked, clearly fallen behind Super Kev, Quinn, Blake for RB spot, behind JET, Burke, Whitts for right midfield role.

We dragged our feet making a contract offer...

So what rationale do you have for Matthews wanting to stay? Wouldn't you criticise him for staying on purely to get a pay packet, without featuring regularly in first team other than on bench with no reserve side?

and theres only one person to blame why he aint getting picked and hes down the pecking order and that is mathews himself!!

Really?

One mistake, Matthews was singled out in the media by Jones. Way to build a young players confidence.

Remind us how many goals have come from Naylors side of the pitch this season, after mistakes by him.

Plymouth away, Purse was singled out for a mistake when the rest of the defence, including Johnson made mistakes that game.

Jones has a habit of commenting on certain players to the media, not others.

Now again, whose fault is it? Matthews needs to improve as a defender, sure. Unlike Blake, he can actually pass to players wearing our colours... much like Gunter, Matthews is a young player who has clearly been marginalised within the squad by the manager, who will go on to do well elsewhere.

thats right because gunter has gone on and become the top quality premiership defender that the majority of people thought.gunter isnt even the best right back in the championship.dave done well with that transfer.how do u learn as young player then when you make mistake wich costs your team praise the player NO.you have to learn from your mistakes and mathews hasnt by the looks of it hence why hes nowhere near the starting line up.if hes not doing it in training and when he gets a chance when he comes on like ipswich and watford away then im sorry the player needs to take a long hard look at themself aswell!!im not saying he hasn't got potential because he clearly has we seen it last year but what is our manager supposed to do if the player is out of contract in the summer and has no intention of signing a new contract and the player is now 6th choice in positios he could play?

thats right because gunter has gone on and become the top quality premiership defender that the majority of people thought.gunter isnt even the best right back in the championship.dave done well with that transfer.how do u learn as young player then when you make mistake wich costs your team praise the player NO.you have to learn from your mistakes and mathews hasnt by the looks of it hence why hes nowhere near the starting line up.if hes not doing it in training and when he gets a chance when he comes on like ipswich and watford away then im sorry the player needs to take a long hard look at themself aswell!!im not saying he hasn't got potential because he clearly has we seen it last year but what is our manager supposed to do if the player is out of contract in the summer and has no intention of signing a new contract and the player is now 6th choice in positios he could play?

Gunter has done decently at this level. Let's be honest, Dj wasn't picking him, Spurs saw something in him to buy him.

Yes, you learn from mistakes. How then do you explain DJ blaming Matthews in the media yet not Naylor? How is that doing to raise Matthews' confidence?

You're right in that we've seen his potential. It's up to the manager to develop that potential - throwing a young player under the bus isn't the way to go about it.

Now, AFAIK ( and am happy to be corrected ), Matthews original contract had a clause that he was due a new contract when he played 25 league games - that happened a long time ago, yet we've only recently offered him a new deal. Do you blame Matthews in that situation for not being impressed?

thats right because gunter has gone on and become the top quality premiership defender that the majority of people thought.gunter isnt even the best right back in the championship.dave done well with that transfer.how do u learn as young player then when you make mistake wich costs your team praise the player NO.you have to learn from your mistakes and mathews hasnt by the looks of it hence why hes nowhere near the starting line up.if hes not doing it in training and when he gets a chance when he comes on like ipswich and watford away then im sorry the player needs to take a long hard look at themself aswell!!im not saying he hasn't got potential because he clearly has we seen it last year but what is our manager supposed to do if the player is out of contract in the summer and has no intention of signing a new contract and the player is now 6th choice in positios he could play?

Gunter has done decently at this level. Let's be honest, Dj wasn't picking him, Spurs saw something in him to buy him.

Yes, you learn from mistakes. How then do you explain DJ blaming Matthews in the media yet not Naylor? How is that doing to raise Matthews' confidence?

You're right in that we've seen his potential. It's up to the manager to develop that potential - throwing a young player under the bus isn't the way to go about it.

Now, AFAIK ( and am happy to be corrected ), Matthews original contract had a clause that he was due a new contract when he played 25 league games - that happened a long time ago, yet we've only recently offered him a new deal. Do you blame Matthews in that situation for not being impressed?

dj's criticism was of the highest embarassment to happen to a footballer bringing him off after 20 minutes in to a game would you say thats not criticising naylor???

are you suggesting that our manager hasnt gone on the training ground and worked with mathews on his game along with burton and other coaches and theyve seen nothing to warrant him a place in the match day squad now!!this is not all the managers fault if mathews cant take a bit of criticism in life then its best we sell because he aint gonna go far in this game!!wich is a shame because he has potential maybe not the confidence and mentality!!

thats right because gunter has gone on and become the top quality premiership defender that the majority of people thought.gunter isnt even the best right back in the championship.dave done well with that transfer.how do u learn as young player then when you make mistake wich costs your team praise the player NO.you have to learn from your mistakes and mathews hasnt by the looks of it hence why hes nowhere near the starting line up.if hes not doing it in training and when he gets a chance when he comes on like ipswich and watford away then im sorry the player needs to take a long hard look at themself aswell!!im not saying he hasn't got potential because he clearly has we seen it last year but what is our manager supposed to do if the player is out of contract in the summer and has no intention of signing a new contract and the player is now 6th choice in positios he could play?

Gunter has done decently at this level. Let's be honest, Dj wasn't picking him, Spurs saw something in him to buy him.

Yes, you learn from mistakes. How then do you explain DJ blaming Matthews in the media yet not Naylor? How is that doing to raise Matthews' confidence?

You're right in that we've seen his potential. It's up to the manager to develop that potential - throwing a young player under the bus isn't the way to go about it.

Now, AFAIK ( and am happy to be corrected ), Matthews original contract had a clause that he was due a new contract when he played 25 league games - that happened a long time ago, yet we've only recently offered him a new deal. Do you blame Matthews in that situation for not being impressed?

dj's criticism was of the highest embarassment to happen to a footballer bringing him off after 20 minutes in to a game would you say thats not criticising naylor???

are you suggesting that our manager hasnt gone on the training ground and worked with mathews on his game along with burton and other coaches and theyve seen nothing to warrant him a place in the match day squad now!!this is not all the managers fault if mathews cant take a bit of criticism in life then its best we sell because he aint gonna go far in this game!!wich is a shame because he has potential maybe not the confidence and mentality!!

Jones still picked Naylor despite other managers saying they were targetting our left hand side!

Managers do have favourites. Let's be honest, Super Kev left back and one of Matthews/Quinn/Blake make us more stable at the back.

A bit of criticism? Matthews made ONE mistake for which DJ blamed him publicly in the media. Matthews then wasn't seen for two months. Add in our delay offering him a new contract which was due as per terms of his contract... in his position what would you think?

Using your point, do you think our manager and his staff saw anything in Koumas' performances on the training pitch to justify a subs position? Or saw anything in his wigan performances to justify a season long loan?

Managers make mistakes, for every good bit of man management, ie Bothroyd, there have been numerous others - Thompson, Alexander,Weston, Purse... indeed, felt Rambo couldn't play central midfield when he was with us.

As for Matthews, I see him more as a wide right player than a full back. Blake better defensively, can't pass wind, gives you nothing going forward.

this is what im trying to get to though he wont get to play on the right either we have burke,bellamy,whitts,jet,and even keogh in front of him for that position why isnt Sir alex coming knockin on the door for mathews anymore!!hes got potential but i think its right if we sell at this moment in time i hope he goes on to be the player we all know he can be but its best if he pursues a career elsewhere to no fault of just dave jones!!

Why blame anyone,i'd blame Mathews he is'nt good enough to get in the team,let him go

Was Ferguson knocking on the door or just paper talk?

Matthews, we know, has the potential. It's obviously down to the player not to f**k their career up, but it's the manager, coaches job to draw that potential out.

I don't think we've a great record in getting younger players with that potential to play to their best based upon our history. And for that, the coaching staff have to shoulder some of the blame.

if the player gets the vibe he's not really wanted - publicly criticised, dropped for months, delay on new contract - then why would he sign the new deal? if anything, Matthews is stagnating through a lack of games. We've not loaned him out, we've no reserve side. From his perspective, I could see why he may want out, and can't blame him for that.

DJ is the one to blame for sure, no doubt bout that

I Second that without doubt, We were offered over £2 Mill for Matthews just over a year ago, The lad has Talent but has been damaged by DJ in my Opinion, GOOD LUCK TO MATTHEWS

Adam wants to stay!

Was Ferguson knocking on the door or just paper talk?

Matthews, we know, has the potential. It's obviously down to the player not to f**k their career up, but it's the manager, coaches job to draw that potential out.

I don't think we've a great record in getting younger players with that potential to play to their best based upon our history. And for that, the coaching staff have to shoulder some of the blame.

if the player gets the vibe he's not really wanted - publicly criticised, dropped for months, delay on new contract - then why would he sign the new deal? if anything, Matthews is stagnating through a lack of games. We've not loaned him out, we've no reserve side. From his perspective, I could see why he may want out, and can't blame him for that.

the coaches did draw the potential out of him we seen it last year and as annis said was subject to a 2 million pound bid from a big club im ammusing. but mathews made one mistake got a little criticism wich was rightly done in my opinion.and was probly told to show in training what hes made off and he hasnt come up with the goods, now if mathews is shot of confidence cos a bit of criticism or hes just throwing his toys out of the pram because hes had little criticism come his way then im sorry hes in the wrong game!!i wish him all the best for the future and it was great to see him play last year like he did

has mattews deserved to be given a chance in the first team. from what iv saw of him he wasn't up to the task. £500k better than nothing