SWANSEA DERBY: VINCE ALM NAILS THE PROBLEMS WITH THE CLUB

Bulut has to take the blame for the players piss up and then not turning up for the game.

The rest is down to the Regime and the Stadium manager.

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WOW!

Nothing but respect for Vince from me, as he knows this club inside out; so I'm not going to comment further than to say watch the video; it makes sense and has even changed my thoughts on some issues talked about...

Well constructed and even better argued, Vince...!

Interesting Chris,

You never backed or said similar on how us fans thought our players and club were about the Jack game???

Always opposite, big change here now Vince has spoken what I’ve always said ?

Thanks mate. I thought it’s was just me that thought like that, especially with his gaslighting me was making me doubt myself.

Sven, you banned me for speaking out, I had to ask Annis to get me back on? I have asked to meet you in the Ninian for you to explain to me why we can’t say what we believe and see?

It’s not just me then.

Good points put across, maybe try and get a few more like this with fans who can join the meeting, be nice to get the manager or a couple of players to join it, overall brilliant.

The Hierarchy won’t allow that.

Fans who speak out don’t get invited again unless you promise to not do it again, a fact.

It’s a real shame, that Sam and tan can’t work together because I think everyone would benefit from it.

Good points put across, maybe try and get a few more like this with fans who can join the meeting, be nice to get the manager or a couple of players to join it, overall brilliant.

The Hierarchy won’t allow that.

Fans who speak out don’t get invited again unless you promise to not do it again, a fact.

It’s a real shame, that Sam and tan can’t work together because I think everyone would benefit from it.

Actually about 10 months ago Sam asked Dalman to ask Tan can they work together and Sam run the football side, Tan said NO he runs the football side.

Plus three times a £100 mill offer has been put to him, he wants £200 mill, unbelievable.

This is shocking and huge respect to Vince for speaking out, someone who genuinely cares about the club and fans.


I’ve stayed out of this but this is all clear.


Whoever sanctioned the Cheltenham trip should leave the club - be that the chairman, CEO, other board member or manager.


The club have clearly made no effort in making this game better to attend for City fans - whether that’s due to the bubble or the numbers we’re allowed to take.


There are definitely some big questions for a lot of people to answer.

Unfortunately, we’ll just get Dalman doing another cosy interview with Radio Wales and he’ll put out more spin.

This is shocking and huge respect to Vince for speaking out, someone who genuinely cares about the club and fans.


I’ve stayed out of this but this is all clear.


Whoever sanctioned the Cheltenham trip should leave the club - be that the chairman, CEO, other board member or manager.


The club have clearly made no effort in making this game better to attend for City fans - whether that’s due to the bubble or the numbers we’re allowed to take.


There are definitely some big questions for a lot of people to answer.

Unfortunately, we’ll just get Dalman doing another cosy interview with Radio Wales and he’ll put out more spin.

Exactly Ned, I totally agree.

We should be allowed 2,100 tickets at least.
It’s not about coaches anymore more.

No doubt, Keith Morgan will put out more bullshit on behalf of Dalman very soon.

WOW!

Nothing but respect for Vince from me, as he knows this club inside out; so I'm not going to comment further than to say watch the video; it makes sense and has even changed my thoughts on some issues talked about...

Well constructed and even better argued, Vince...!

That's a brilliant listen and hats off to Vince for speaking out. He's basically said it how it is and how the majority of Cardiff fans feel.

It may not have any effect on the board but it should galvanise us fans and it may be up to us to make the players and manager aware of the importance of this game.

I've sent a link of the video to a very close member of Joe Ralls family and asked if he will sent on to Joe and if joe in turn will forward on the the players and coaches.

If anyone else has a way of contacting a player and/or member of staff, please do the same

WOW!

Nothing but respect for Vince from me, as he knows this club inside out; so I'm not going to comment further than to say watch the video; it makes sense and has even changed my thoughts on some issues talked about...

Well constructed and even better argued, Vince...!

Interesting Chris,

You never backed or said similar on how us fans thought our players and club were about the Jack game???

Always opposite, big change here now Vince has spoken what I’ve always said ?

Annis, it's not about Vince but about what was said and the way it was said

I am not naive and I am aware our players (or most of them) failed to turn up for Part 2 of the Swansea 'derby' and the manner of the result hurt; we hardly put a glove on them, whilst they could/should have won by more

It pains me to say that, but it's true

I listened to what Vince had to say in the first few minutes and whilst much of it made sense, some of it was new to me and a little light was turned on in my head (so to speak) in a way I hadn't properly understood on Forum; particularly another 'Jolly Boys Outing' that reminded me of that Ipswich game under Dave Jones

I said I had changed my mind on (quote) "some" things and that is how I saw it

Where I differ from many, is that I always try to get a balanced view and try to see positives where they exist. It's in my nature as a person and (like you) as a life-long Bluebird but I have now reviewed much of what was written and with fresh information, I can broadly see why posters were so angry. It certainly seems our players (I'm still not sure about manager) simply weren't 'up for it' and the Swans certainly were

Sometimes, and you know I apologise when I overstep, I get frustrated by the constant negativity of some when not everything is 'bad' about our club and our supporters still turn out (as they did at Swansea) to get behind the XI on the pitch; and they deserve better than a token performance from those they have paid good money to watch

We have talked at length about the 'regime' and you know my thoughts are broadly in tune with your own and you know what I would like to happen, if it were possible

Notwithstanding that, I do try to take an overall view of any given game or situation and put out as many positives as I can gather. Sometimes, like this game, it is a balancing act with a 1lb weight on one end and a 10lb weight on the other end of the (proverbial) see-saw

I was disappointed, as I am with all defeats; and after 4 wins and a draw in the last 5, like you and all Bluebirds, I expected more

I hope that clears things up even a little bit...

Good points put across, maybe try and get a few more like this with fans who can join the meeting, be nice to get the manager or a couple of players to join it, overall brilliant.

The Hierarchy won’t allow that.

Fans who speak out don’t get invited again unless you promise to not do it again, a fact.

It’s a real shame, that Sam and tan can’t work together because I think everyone would benefit from it.

On that you and I 100% agree...!

Good points put across, maybe try and get a few more like this with fans who can join the meeting, be nice to get the manager or a couple of players to join it, overall brilliant.

The Hierarchy won’t allow that.

Fans who speak out don’t get invited again unless you promise to not do it again, a fact.

It’s a real shame, that Sam and tan can’t work together because I think everyone would benefit from it.

Actually about 10 months ago Sam asked Dalman to ask Tan can they work together and Sam run the football side, Tan said NO he runs the football side.

Plus three times a £100 mill offer has been put to him, he wants £200 mill, unbelievable.

Annis, we know and agree this idea would make so much sense and drive the club and support forward...!

We should be getting the full Away allocation , they do, but once again, our CEO / Board don’t stand up for our fans and NEVER Put us first.

Cmon Annis you know very well who this buck stops with.. NASH.

Brilliant speech by Vince , take my hat off too him .
I didn’t know the players were at the races on the piss , so that’s just made this loss even worse ,
I still can’t get over that shite on Saturday , my kids first trip to Swansea and even they said why aren’t the players chasing down the jacks , I said it doesn’t seem like they want it , it’s embarrassing

We should be getting the full Away allocation , they do, but once again, our CEO / Board don’t stand up for our fans and NEVER Put us first.

Cmon Annis you know very well who this buck stops with.. NASH.

And yes?

Jules he is part of the Regime, they listen to everything he says

WOW!

Nothing but respect for Vince from me, as he knows this club inside out; so I'm not going to comment further than to say watch the video; it makes sense and has even changed my thoughts on some issues talked about...

Well constructed and even better argued, Vince...!

Interesting Chris,

You never backed or said similar on how us fans thought our players and club were about the Jack game???

Always opposite, big change here now Vince has spoken what I’ve always said ?

Annis, it's not about Vince but about what was said and the way it was said

I am not naive and I am aware our players (or most of them) failed to turn up for Part 2 of the Swansea 'derby' and the manner of the result hurt; we hardly put a glove on them, whilst they could/should have won by more

It pains me to say that, but it's true

I listened to what Vince had to say in the first few minutes and whilst much of it made sense, some of it was new to me and a little light was turned on in my head (so to speak) in a way I hadn't properly understood on Forum; particularly another 'Jolly Boys Outing' that reminded me of that Ipswich game under Dave Jones

I said I had changed my mind on (quote) "some" things and that is how I saw it

Where I differ from many, is that I always try to get a balanced view and try to see positives where they exist. It's in my nature as a person and (like you) as a life-long Bluebird but I have now reviewed much of what was written and with fresh information, I can broadly see why posters were so angry. It certainly seems our players (I'm still not sure about manager) simply weren't 'up for it' and the Swans certainly were

Sometimes, and you know I apologise when I overstep, I get frustrated by the constant negativity of some when not everything is 'bad' about our club and our supporters still turn out (as they did at Swansea) to get behind the XI on the pitch; and they deserve better than a token performance from those they have paid good money to watch

We have talked at length about the 'regime' and you know my thoughts are broadly in tune with your own and you know what I would like to happen, if it were possible

Notwithstanding that, I do try to take an overall view of any given game or situation and put out as many positives as I can gather. Sometimes, like this game, it is a balancing act with a 1lb weight on one end and a 10lb weight on the other end of the (proverbial) see-saw

I was disappointed, as I am with all defeats; and after 4 wins and a draw in the last 5, like you and all Bluebirds, I expected more

I hope that clears things up even a little bit...

Chris,


I probably went a bit over the top on you.
For that I was wrong.

But everyone needs to see what I have been saying for years this Regime is Rotten and does not care one bit about us fans or our club.

We have not moved forward under them and the fans mainly are more than unhappy.

They have PR people like Morgan saying I’ve spoken to Dalman and it’s all good etc etc more bullshit.

There are NO fans speaking out for our fans, Vince is the first, why because he sees how bad we really are behind the scenes.

I don’t want to hear anymore crap form the Regime, No more words just action.

I don’t want to hear more plans etc just do it.

Thanks for chatting earlier Chris.


We love our club, them at the Top do not, they and their PR men do not one bit.
It’s about them , not our club.

Well said Vince fully aggree with all your comments,plus who authorised the trip to Cheltenham should be reprimanded or sacked so close to the game one thing is certain THE PLAYERS WERE DEFINITELY NOT AT THE RACES ON SATURDAY, hope the club responds ASAP the fans are the LIFE BLOOD Of the CLUB

WOW!

Nothing but respect for Vince from me, as he knows this club inside out; so I'm not going to comment further than to say watch the video; it makes sense and has even changed my thoughts on some issues talked about...

Well constructed and even better argued, Vince...!

Interesting Chris,

You never backed or said similar on how us fans thought our players and club were about the Jack game???

Always opposite, big change here now Vince has spoken what I’ve always said ?

Annis, it's not about Vince but about what was said and the way it was said

I am not naive and I am aware our players (or most of them) failed to turn up for Part 2 of the Swansea 'derby' and the manner of the result hurt; we hardly put a glove on them, whilst they could/should have won by more

It pains me to say that, but it's true

I listened to what Vince had to say in the first few minutes and whilst much of it made sense, some of it was new to me and a little light was turned on in my head (so to speak) in a way I hadn't properly understood on Forum; particularly another 'Jolly Boys Outing' that reminded me of that Ipswich game under Dave Jones

I said I had changed my mind on (quote) "some" things and that is how I saw it

Where I differ from many, is that I always try to get a balanced view and try to see positives where they exist. It's in my nature as a person and (like you) as a life-long Bluebird but I have now reviewed much of what was written and with fresh information, I can broadly see why posters were so angry. It certainly seems our players (I'm still not sure about manager) simply weren't 'up for it' and the Swans certainly were

Sometimes, and you know I apologise when I overstep, I get frustrated by the constant negativity of some when not everything is 'bad' about our club and our supporters still turn out (as they did at Swansea) to get behind the XI on the pitch; and they deserve better than a token performance from those they have paid good money to watch

We have talked at length about the 'regime' and you know my thoughts are broadly in tune with your own and you know what I would like to happen, if it were possible

Notwithstanding that, I do try to take an overall view of any given game or situation and put out as many positives as I can gather. Sometimes, like this game, it is a balancing act with a 1lb weight on one end and a 10lb weight on the other end of the (proverbial) see-saw

I was disappointed, as I am with all defeats; and after 4 wins and a draw in the last 5, like you and all Bluebirds, I expected more

I hope that clears things up even a little bit...

Chris,


I probably went a bit over the top on you.
For that I was wrong.

But everyone needs to see what I have been saying for years this Regime is Rotten and does not care one bit about us fans or our club.

We have not moved forward under them and the fans mainly are more than unhappy.

They have PR people like Morgan saying I’ve spoken to Dalman and it’s all good etc etc more bullshit.

There are NO fans speaking out for our fans, Vince is the first, why because he sees how bad we really are behind the scenes.

I don’t want to hear anymore crap form the Regime, No more words just action.

I don’t want to hear more plans etc just do it.

Thanks for chatting earlier Chris.


We love our club, them at the Top do not, they and their PR men do not one bit.
It’s about them , not our club.

Annis, thank you but no need to apologise. We know each other well enough to know both we have our club at heart and I am broadly onside with the thought that the current owner doesn't treat our beloved club as he should...

A good conversation earlier as you supped a beer on your cruise ship off Naples and I only hope Joanne wasn't too inconvenienced...

Enjoy the rest of your trip and talk again soon...

I used to be on this show regular but never get asked anymore the only thing I disagree with on Vince is comments are about lifting the ban on the bubble trip be careful what you wish for .for those who make the trip to swanseas and I have done it many times and I was there last Saturday if Swansea fans could get at our buses there could have been carnage you see it every year if there was no escort I believe someone could get killed soon or later letting our fans go by train aagain you will have Swansea fans waiting in there hundreds for Cardiff fans to arrive I had it on good authority last Saturday there gangs of Swansea fans looking for Cardiff fans the days are gone know when we used to take thousands to Swansea and pay at the gate but we never ever take that amount know Swansea fans never came near us in those days

We should be getting the full Away allocation , they do, but once again, our CEO / Board don’t stand up for our fans and NEVER Put us first.

Cmon Annis you know very well who this buck stops with.. NASH.

And yes?

Jules he is part of the Regime, they listen to everything he says

That's what I'm saying , the pressure needs to be on him and get him out of there.

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I agree with vince on this,our players the ones not on international duty be sunning it up in dubai somewhere no doubt without a care in the world

Ummmm obviously last weekend we didn't take it seriously rolled over and got shafted.the previous jack derby we did though so the club got what it meant the team fought well won 2-0 everyone went home happy right? As for trying to get the bubble lifted I'm really not sure that a good move .I don't see a time when both sets of fans could mingle outside each others stadiums without it going off

We should be getting the full Away allocation , they do, but once again, our CEO / Board don’t stand up for our fans and NEVER Put us first.

The clubs absence after this speak volume for the place.

No apology whatsoever says it all.

Ian,

The Hierarchy don’t give a shit.

Also I have you noticed the Hierarchy followers / usual suspects disappear when the truth comes out and since the defeat.

Yep but I will say I see people seeing the club for what it is after this. For me it all starts at the top and when you have an owner who does not give a shit then you are onto a hiding.

I really hope so, be good if they came on here and were honest.

We have a Regime and people under them who don’t care plus leaders of groups who are controlled by them and do their dirty work and spread bullshit.

Aye. I do feel sorry for those on the frontline who are in contact with the supporters themselves. When I approach one or two of them they look like they are going to shit themselves.

Because they are controlled by the Regime , everyone of them.

I distinctly get the impression that certain people within the club actually appear to dislike the very people ( the fan base ) they are employed to represent, and it’s getting more ridiculous.

I can’t remember the last time myself and my family were greeted with a friendly smile from a steward or club employee.

Vince absolutely nails last Saturday's derby fiasco with his comments at the start of this video. Nails it.

I echo everything he says. Swansea take it seriously. We don't. They win. We lose. Simple as that. And it's got to stop.

He also comments on the players not taking it seriously and having a "team bonding" day on the piss in Cheltenham when it really should have been at an army camp. He talks about our suicidal tactics and lack of any endeavor compared to the jerks and that he, like us all, now expect a complete shit show from our club every time we play Swansea. And it's been like it for years.

He says that the only reason we beat them at ours is that Duff simply didn't get the derby. And I agree. We weren't all that special. They just didn't turn up. For once. And now he's gone of course.

Also, Vince talks about how Swansea use operational shithousery as part of their game plan. We never get a full ticket allocation with bullshit excuses given. Yet Nash gives them theres. How this also means they can jam their their fans next to us to ramp up hostile atmosphere. Nash increases the no-mans land when they are at ours which is the complete reverse. Nash would be the first one I fired, he's a liability, on a power trip, hates our fans and in a job way beyond his groundsman pay grade. He is jell bent on killing any atmosphere when clubs like Arsenal and Burnley are looking for ways to increase it, as Artete has stayed it makes a measurable difference on team performance. How the f**k is Nash still in a job when he's doing the reverse of what a manager of a top PL club says needs to happen as it helps win games?

Our fans get it. So why doesn't our club get it? From the top down? As that's where it needs to come from.

Vince is also going to campaign for this game not to be a bubble. I'm also going to ask him, as a Fan Advisory Board member, to make our complete and unacceptable attitude and preparation to this derby a boardroom issue.

I've got a lot of time for Vince, do watch this video, his comments are at the start so you don't have to watch the whole thing. But this piss poor attitude to this particular fixture has to change and starting in preparation for the next one. It needs to be in our DNA, just as it is at Swansea and we cannot be second best any longer.

I always take note of what Vince says, he's a sensible supporter passionate, and balanced, I agree with everything he said, he knows for more than me on the runnings of the club and the allocation. We should make life as miserable as possible for the rats next time, play dirty tricks, run out of beer, limit their tickets, and turn the hot water off in their changing rooms, make it horrible for them.

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