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UPDATED “ BREAKING: BODY TAKEN TO AMBULANCE AND

Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:12 pm

SKY NEWS BREAKING

Thursday 7th February 2019 3:30pm


Body will now be identified

Following the recovery of the body inside the wreckage, formal identification will now take place, with the coroner and police set to carry out that duty.





The body "successfully recovered" from the wreckage of the plane that was carrying footballer Emiliano Sala and pilot David Ibbotson has landed in Dorset.

Remotely operated vehicles in "challenging conditions" were used to pull the body out of the water "in as dignified a way as possible", according to the Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB).

Images show an ambulance bringing the body from a ship into land at Dorset this morning, and it has now been brought onto land.

A stretcher carrying a body is removed from the Geo Ocean III specialist search vessel docked in Portland, Dorset
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A stretcher carrying a body is removed from the Geo Ocean III specialist search vessel docked in Portland, Dorset
It has not been confirmed whether the body is that of Sala or Mr Ibbotson.

Dorset Police released a statement which said: "This morning, Thursday 7 February 2019, the body was brought to Portland Port, Dorset, as this is the nearest part of the British mainland to where the plane was located.


"The arrival of the body into Dorset has been reported to the Coroner for Dorset. The Coroner will investigate the circumstances of this death supported by Dorset Police. A post-mortem examination will be held in due course."





UPDATED 7th February 2019


Body inside plane wreckage has been recovered / Search now called off due to bad weather and will not continue for the forseable future.

The plane is being left and won’t be recovered.

A spokesman for the UK Air Accident Investigation Branch has tonight said:

Following extensive visual examination of the accident site using the remotely operated vehicle (ROV), it was decided to attempt recovery operations.


In challenging conditions, the AAIB and its specialist contractors successfully recovered the body previously seen amidst the wreckage. The operation was carried out in as dignified a way as possible and the families were kept informed of progress.
Unfortunately, attempts to recover the aircraft wreckage were unsuccessful before poor weather conditions forced us to return the ROV to the ship. The weather forecast is poor for the foreseeable future and so the difficult decision was taken to bring the overall operation to a close. The body is currently being taken to Portland to be passed into the care of the Dorset Coroner.
Although it was not possible to recover the aircraft, the extensive video record captured by the ROV is expected to provide valuable evidence for our safety investigation.


We expect our next update to be an interim report, which we intend to publish within one month of the accident occurring.




UPDATED: Wed 6th Jan 2019 11.50pm.

A body has been recovered from the wreckage of the plane which crashed with Cardiff City footballer Emiliano Sala and pilot David Ibbotson on board.

The Air Accidents Investigation Branch said specialist contractors joined the operation in "challenging conditions".

It was carried out in "as dignified a way as possible" and the men's families were kept updated throughout, it said.

The wreckage of the plane, which vanished two weeks ago over the English Channel, had been found off Guernsey.


UPDATED: Wed 6th Jan 2019 8pm.


Tonight the news that the vessel overlooking the crash spot is returning back with something it seems.
The families will be told first and the news will be made public tomorrow.

The vessel is now heading to Portsmouth.


UPDATED: Wednesday 6th January 2019 11am


An Air Accidents Investigation Branch spokesperson said:

“We are attempting to recovery the body. If we are successful, we will consider the feasibility of recovering the aircraft wreckage.
“Strong tidal conditions mean we can only use the remotely operated vehicle (ROV) for limited periods each day and this will mean that progress is slow.
“Regardless of the results, we will not be making a further statement until the families have been informed.”



It is possible for them to work throughout the night, and we are talking days rather than weeks for the body to be recovered and if the plane is recovered as well.

There has been no official confirmation about the identity of the body from the AAIB and that won’t be released until some time after it is hopefully recovered.

Marine scientist David Mearns, who found the plane wreckage, has said the AAIB are unsure about the identity and there is, understandably, no room for speculation until certainty is established.










UPDATED: Wednesday 6th February 2019


Progress has slowed down say the rescuers, due to terrible weather conditions.


Mission to recover body is under way

The mission to recover the body inside the wreckage of Emiliano Sala’s plane is under way in the English Channel.

An Air Accidents Investigation Branch spokesperson said: “We are attempting to recovery the body. If we are successful, we will consider the feasibility of recovering the aircraft wreckage.

“Strong tidal conditions mean we can only use the remotely operated vehicle (ROV) for limited periods each day and this will mean that progress is slow. Regardless of the results, we will not be making a further statement until the families have been informed.”





UPDATED: Tuesday 5th February 2019 :bluebird:

19:40pm

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Body inside Emiliano Sala plane wreckage being removed

The mission to recover the plane and body is to start.





Tuesday 5th February 2019 12pm


The mission to recover the body inside the wreckage of Emiliano Sala's plane is under way in the English Channel.

An Air Accident Investigation Branch spokesperson said: “We are attempting to recover the body. If we are successful, we will consider the feasibility of recovering the aircraft wreckage.

“Strong tidal conditions mean we can only use the remotely operated vehicle (ROV) for limited periods each day and this will mean that progress is slow. Regardless of the results, we will not be making a further statement until the families have been informed."

The Geo Ocean III vessel is at the crash site, with winching equipment and floodlighting on board that will allow it to work at any time of day or night.

The exact timetable of the plane recovery operation will depend on weather conditions, currents and tide. You can follow live updates on this story here.

It will need to be done in "slack water" - the point at which the tide is turning.

The Air Accident Investigation Branch are not able to guarantee the mission will be a success but it is their intention to raise the wreckage in a bid to try to solve the mystery around why the plane ended up in the English Channel.



The body, which was spotted by cameras on remotely operated underwater vehicles (ROVs), is being recovered before the plane using specialist equipment.


No official identification of the body will happen until it has been removed from the site and it remains unclear if it is Sala or pilot David Ibbotson.



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UPDATED: Tuesday 5th February 2019


What happens now?

Now that the plane has been located, there has been no official confirmation either way yet on whether the wreckage will be recovered and brought to the surface. This, however, is almost certain to happen and will likely prove key to the investigation into what actually happened.

If efforts are to be made to bring the aircraft to the surface, it could require a crane or flotation devices to raise it.

The AAIB said on Monday it is "considering the next steps, in consultation with the families of the pilot and passenger, and the police".

Of course, we do not know who has been found on the plane. We are told information around this cannot be disclosed at the moment.

In terms of a potential recovery operation, Mr Mearns has been speaking about the possibilities of this today.

He said the AAIB have contracted the vessel they are using for three days [including Sunday], and said they probably would not be able to recover the wreckage in that period of time, but that is "probably what they are now evaluating”.

“Even if they bring in a different vessel with deep sea divers we are still working in winter time and we’re getting about one to two days of fair weather a week."






UPDATED:

Regarding the body found in wreckage:


Mr Mearns said they probably would not be able to recover it in that period of time but that is "probably what they are now evaluating".

"If they can dive today [Monday], and the conditions aren't great, then hopefully they can get some more information about how they would attempt that recovery.

"Even if they bring in a different vessel with deep sea divers we are still working in winter time and we're getting about one to two days of fair weather a week."



Asked if the bodies of Sala and Mr Ibbotson are likely to be there, he said: "That's a possibility and they will be planning for that as well. There are a number of things the AAIB have to consider but their main role obviously is to find out what caused this crash.

"I was in touch with the family of Emiliano Sala last night [Sunday] by text and through Emiliano's agent, and the family desperately would like the plane to be recovered. They felt they have done beyond what any sort of normal family would have ever done in raising this money to get the private search done so quickly and now they feel it is the responsibility of the Government to take the next step.

"That was clear in my meetings with



UPDATED:

'One occupant is visible amidst the wreckage'


Early in the search, the Morven identified an object of interest on the seabed using its side-scan sonar equipment. It cleared the immediate area for the Geo Ocean III to use its underwater remotely operated vehicle (ROV) to survey the area of the seabed in which the object was located. Based on analysis of ROV video footage, the AAIB investigators on board the vessel concluded that the object is wreckage from the missing Piper Malibu aircraft, registration N264DB.

The ROV carried out a further search of the area overnight, but did not identify any additional pieces of wreckage.

Tragically, in video footage from the ROV, one occupant is visible amidst the wreckage. The AAIB is now considering the next steps, in consultation with the families of the pilot and passenger, and the police. :cry:

The image shows the rear left side of the fuselage including part of the aircraft registration.







Sky News



Monday 4th February 2019


DAVID MEARN(Head of the wreckage team):



"They saw the registration number. The biggest surprise was that most of the plane was there. We were expecting to find a debris field. It is broken but most of it is there.”



"This is about the best result we could of hoped for the families, but I have had to tell them devastating news, all I will say about the wreckage is there is a substantial amount of wreckage on the sea bed."

"The wreckage was found 24miles north of Guernsey. and was found with in hours of our new search."

"A part of the wreckage we have brought back with us."

"There is a team now stationed at the spot of the wreckage."



DAVID MEARN:


"We located the wreckage of the plane on the seabed at a depth of about 63m within a couple of hours of starting to search.

"After that we needed to identify the plane. Initially we had to do that with our sonars to make sure it wasn't any other objects on the seabed. We made a series of high resolution passes that enabled us to define that this was most probably a plane. After that we called in the larger vessel, the one that has been contracted by the UK AAIB, and this confirmed it was the plane.

"They saw the registration number. The biggest surprise was that most of the plane was there. We were expecting to find a debris field. It is broken but most of it is there.

"The next step is down to the AAIB. They have contracted the vessel they are using for three days so they have at least two days under that contract."



Mr Mearns said they probably would not be able to recover it in that period of time but that is "probably what they are now evaluating".

"If they can dive today [Monday], and the conditions aren't great, then hopefully they can get some more information about how they would attempt that recovery.

"Even if they bring in a different vessel with deep sea divers we are still working in winter time and we're getting about one to two days of fair weather a week."



Asked if the bodies of Sala and Mr Ibbotson are likely to be there, he said: "That's a possibility and they will be planning for that as well. There are a number of things the AAIB have to consider but their main role obviously is to find out what caused this crash.

"I was in touch with the family of Emiliano Sala last night [Sunday] by text and through Emiliano's agent, and the family desperately would like the plane to be recovered. They felt they have done beyond what any sort of normal family would have ever done in raising this money to get the private search done so quickly and now they feel it is the responsibility of the Government to take the next step.

"That was clear in my meetings with the AAIB. Now we are talking about an accident scene and the police are involved."




Sunday 3rd February 2019

CONFIRMED EMILIANO’S PLANE HAS BEEN FOUND & THE FAMILY HAVE JUST BEEN INFORMED.




The plane that was carrying the missing Premier League footballer Emiliano Sala has been found, his family has been told.

A search boat located the wreckage on the seabed of the English Channel this morning.

The Piper Malibu aircraft disappeared from radars close to the Channel Islands on 22 January.

Both pilot David Ibbotson and the Argentinian footballer are missing presumed dead








Where the wreckage was found

The wreckage was located at a depth of 63m north of Guernsey, 13 days after it vanished.
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Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:19 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:Sky News



The plane that was carrying the missing Premier League footballer Emiliano Sala has been found, his family has been told.

A search boat located the wreckage on the seabed of the English Channel this morning.

The Piper Malibu aircraft disappeared from radars close to the Channel Islands on 22 January.

Both pilot David Ibbotson and the Argentinian footballer are missing presumed dead


Thank god. Just praying that both are found now for closure for the family.
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Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:19 pm

So sad. :sad7: :sad7:

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:26 pm

Awful awful news but it's about all we can hope for.

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:30 pm

Sounds strange but I hope both bodies are on board so they can be retrieved and burried properly.

Nobody wants this to end without a definitive answer to what happened and where they are, everybody needs closure to this tragedy.

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:31 pm

thomasblue wrote:Sounds strange but I hope both bodies are on board so they can be retrieved and burried properly.

Nobody wants this to end without a definitive answer to what happened and where they are, everybody needs closure to this tragedy.

Mate they are my thoughts exactly.

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:35 pm

Wreckage from the plane which disappeared with Cardiff City footballer Emiliano Sala and pilot David Ibbotson on board has been found in the English Channel.

David Mearns, a marine scientist who directed the private search, made the announcement on Twitter, writing: "Wreckage of the plane carrying Emiliano Sala and piloted by David Ibbotson was located early this morning by the FPV MORVEN.

"As agreed with the AAIB [Air Accidents Investigation Branch] they moved the GEO OCEAN III over the position we provided them to visually identify the plane by ROV. #EmilianoSala."

Mr Mearns added: "The families of Emiliano Sala and David Ibbotson have been notified by Police.

"The AAIB will be making a statement tomorrow.

"Tonight our sole thoughts are with the families and friends of Emiliano and David."

The news comes just hours after a privately-funded search for the plane that was carrying the pair began in the early hours of Sunday morning.

The Piper Malibu N264DB carrying 28-year-old Sala and 59-year-old Mr Ibbotson disappeared over the English Channel on January 21 after leaving Nantes in France for Cardiff.

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:35 pm

Obviously not an expert on the topic, but this investigation was started and finished in a day. What were the guernsey police doing? Again not pointing fingers as this is probably a stupid question

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:39 pm

To be fair they would have been doing overhead and sea level searches. If it had gone down it may have been impossible to see. This was with high powered sonar

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:41 pm

The Guernsey police weren’t equipped with sonar devices

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:41 pm

The plane that was carrying the missing Cardiff City striker, Emiliano Sala, and pilot David Ibbotson has been found.

A search boat located the wreckage on the seabed of the Channel on Sunday morning. The Piper Malibu aircraft disappeared from radars close to the Channel Islands on 22 January.

A privately funded search began on Sunday led by the marine scientist David Mearns on behalf of the Sala family.

Mearns said on Twitter: “Wreckage of the plane carrying Emiliano Sala and piloted by David Ibbotson was located early this morning by the FPV MORVEN.

“As agreed with the Air Accident Investigation Branch they moved the [offshore supply ship] GEO OCEAN III over the position we provided them to visually identify the plane by remotely-operated vehicle. ”

Mearns added: “The families of Emiliano Sala and David Ibbotson have been notified by police. The AAIB will be making a statement tomorrow. Tonight our sole thoughts are with the families and friends of Emiliano and David.”

Speaking to Sky News, Mearns said: “This is about the best result we could have hoped for the families. But tonight they have heard devastating news and in respect of the families I won’t comment any further about what has happened.”

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:42 pm

BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:Obviously not an expert on the topic, but this investigation was started and finished in a day. What were the guernsey police doing? Again not pointing fingers as this is probably a stupid question


The original search was a rescue mission, trying to find the wreckage or persons onboard at sea level or land nearby. To do a Subsea search is not possible with the search and rescue helicopters or RNLI lifeboats. It’s a very expensive industry to do anything below sea level.

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:46 pm

I think it’s a question many will be thinking, and may have brought an answer more quickly, but sadly I don’t think it would have made any difference for a rescue outcome.

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:56 pm

Sky News correspondent Tom Parmenter, who is in Guernsey in the Channel Islands, said: "It was early this morning at about 9am, the very early stages of the search that had got underway at first light this morning... that they saw something with the sonar equipment that they had on board.

"They carried out further passes over that area to pinpoint and have a closer look.

"They went through various stages of identification through the course of today, and David Mearns confirmed to me that they have now positively identified the wreckage as that of the plane that had been carrying the Argentinian footballer."

The aircraft has been located four days after two seat cushions were found that were likely to have come from the plane.

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:58 pm

BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:Obviously not an expert on the topic, but this investigation was started and finished in a day. What were the guernsey police doing? Again not pointing fingers as this is probably a stupid question

I believe there search was based mainly overground and at the time they were looking for debris, life raft or floating plane? Listening to the investigators wording I believe they have found the two of them also, the AAIB are due to make a statement tomorrow... :cry:

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:00 pm

Thank you David, you have delivered your promise. Hopefully some closure for the families now. Just say if the body not in the plane, what happens from here. Today news is big for everyone.

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:03 pm

Judging by the stament by the head of the search party on the news I think they were found in there ,hopefully be closure for the families

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:04 pm

Ibby wrote:Thank you David, you have delivered your promise. Hopefully some closure for the families now. Just say if the body not in the plane, what happens from here. Today news is big for everyone.


Think we’ll know more tomorrow when the AAIB give a press conference

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:09 pm

Ibby wrote:Thank you David, you have delivered your promise. Hopefully some closure for the families now. Just say if the body not in the plane, what happens from here. Today news is big for everyone.


Spot On Ibby .

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:09 pm

BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:Obviously not an expert on the topic, but this investigation was started and finished in a day. What were the guernsey police doing? Again not pointing fingers as this is probably a stupid question


Exactly. They found it in a day two weeks after the event. Total incompetence by the Guernsey tosser and somebody needs to be brought to account

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:11 pm

TopCat CCFC wrote:
Ibby wrote:Thank you David, you have delivered your promise. Hopefully some closure for the families now. Just say if the body not in the plane, what happens from here. Today news is big for everyone.


Spot On Ibby .



Looks like they are not alive. I am so upset and crying in the front of my computer. Poor families and fans all suffering. I still can't get my head around this and the answer is why it happened.


David is a proper expert, i had faith in him, he got the job done.

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:12 pm

TopCat CCFC wrote:
Ibby wrote:Thank you David, you have delivered your promise. Hopefully some closure for the families now. Just say if the body not in the plane, what happens from here. Today news is big for everyone.


Spot On Ibby .

Judging by the bbc report I just read the boat that located the wreckage is staying at the scene overnight and they will make visual contact in the morning.

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:14 pm

CF23 Bluebird wrote:
BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:Obviously not an expert on the topic, but this investigation was started and finished in a day. What were the guernsey police doing? Again not pointing fingers as this is probably a stupid question


Exactly. They found it in a day two weeks after the event. Total incompetence by the Guernsey tosser and somebody needs to be brought to account


Totally uncalled for. Like the previous poster pointed out they where searching for sign of life.
A rescue mission.
Not searching for a wreckage.

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:15 pm

BLUE54 wrote:I think it’s a question many will be thinking, and may have brought an answer more quickly, but sadly I don’t think it would have made any difference for a rescue outcome.



They knew within a small area where plane ditched but the search was for ameliano and pilot so that had to be expansive to cover every eventuality, once they knew hope was gone the next search was for plane and as it was only a 4 square mile area it was obvious they were positive of location hence was only couple of hours before they found plane in fact said found it on 1st sweep.

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:17 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:
Ibby wrote:Thank you David, you have delivered your promise. Hopefully some closure for the families now. Just say if the body not in the plane, what happens from here. Today news is big for everyone.


Spot On Ibby .

Judging by the bbc report I just read the boat that located the wreckage is staying at the scene overnight and they will make visual contact in the morning.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47111632

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:18 pm

bluebird7291 wrote:
CF23 Bluebird wrote:
BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:Obviously not an expert on the topic, but this investigation was started and finished in a day. What were the guernsey police doing? Again not pointing fingers as this is probably a stupid question[/quo

Exactly. They found it in a day two weeks after the event. Total incompetence by the Guernsey tosser and somebody needs to be brought to account


Totally uncalled for. Like the previous poster pointed out they where searching for sign of life.
A rescue mission.
Not searching for a wreckage.


Really? And they gave up didn't even try to find any wreckage or try and find him just left him to rot

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:22 pm

Any idea why the boat is staying in the area overnight ? I feel let down to this whole matter. It was shamble the way the Sala plane was booked and people getting involved in his move. Them people will have blood on they hands and answers to be given.I bet you tonight, they will shi@@ing them self up , just knowing the police will seek to see them.

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:23 pm

Not sure how accurate this is but would be closure for families if true
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Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:24 pm

CF23 Bluebird wrote:
bluebird7291 wrote:
CF23 Bluebird wrote:
BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:Obviously not an expert on the topic, but this investigation was started and finished in a day. What were the guernsey police doing? Again not pointing fingers as this is probably a stupid question[/quo

Exactly. They found it in a day two weeks after the event. Total incompetence by the Guernsey tosser and somebody needs to be brought to account


Totally uncalled for. Like the previous poster pointed out they where searching for sign of life.
A rescue mission.
Not searching for a wreckage.


Really? And they gave up didn't even try to find any wreckage or try and find him just left him to rot


How can they search under the sea? They DONT have the tech, these people do. :banghead:

Re: BREAKING “ EMILIANO SALA PLANE FOUND “

Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:26 pm

CF23 Bluebird wrote:
BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:Obviously not an expert on the topic, but this investigation was started and finished in a day. What were the guernsey police doing? Again not pointing fingers as this is probably a stupid question


Exactly. They found it in a day two weeks after the event. Total incompetence by the Guernsey tosser and somebody needs to be brought to account


I take it you are an expert on deep sea salvage operations then.