powysblue wrote:Remember No deal is Better than a bad deal
Simply not the case at all.
Hell even ignoring the issues that no deal would give (which are many), what exactly is wrong with the deal on the table now?
powysblue wrote:Mrs May's DEAL is really a capitulation and was the plan all along to frustrate the people's wishes by the back door - How many times does she have to try and convince the Brexit voting electorate and the slippery politicians that this is deal brexit ? It is just trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes and what makes it particularly galling is that the political class think that the PLEBS (as they like to call the ordinary people) will fall for their tricks and lies.
You realise May's deal is pretty far towards the anti EU side than the remain side right?
No freedom of movement, no customs union etc etc. Pretty much everything to leave side wanted.
Seriously apart from the temp backstop (which is needed because we don't have the time to devise a proper solution to the NI border issue) and the payments to the EU (which were always going to be paid because we had made a commitment to paying them, you can't just decide you won't pay someone despite having a contract that says you would), I really don't see what leavers can complain about with it.
powysblue wrote:Even if the only way, is another referendum, that will be rigged as well, with 3 questions on the ballot (1) leave the EU (2) leave the EU with Mrs May's Deal (3) stay in EU. - what the inevitable consequence of that would be, some leave voters would vote for Mrs May's deal just to get it "over and done with", whilst other leave voters would vote to leave again. The original Stay in EU voters would mostly vote to Stay - Thus, the leave Vote would be split and the stay vote would win - THE PLAN ALL ALONG.
But that is exactly the point. We have literally no idea of the kind of Brexit people want. Do people want a closer relationship with the EU such as Norway or Switzerland? Do they want a half way house like May's deal? Or do they want to leave with no deal regardless of consequence? We just do not know.
powysblue wrote:Most, but not all, of the younger generation accuse the older generation of messing up their future? Do they really think that the older and mostly wiser, university of life oldies voted leave to mess up their future? NO, quite the opposite.
Yes.