castleblue wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:castleblue wrote:I can only see one way out of this crisis, and that's exactly what this is, and that's to take this decision away from Westminster and move immediately to a 2nd referendum and that referendum have just two options, Remain on our current terms or Leave on the terms negotiated.
I voted leave in the referendum and despite there being an overwhelming majority in favour of leave in my constituency last night our MP, Wayne David, voted against the deal negotiated by Theresa May, Why? I feel totally let down by my MP and I will be sending him an email today telling him just that and making him one promise, he will never get my vote again.
I actually feel a little sympathy for Theresa May as just over a month ago 117 of her own MP's voted against her in the Tory party confidence vote in her leadership, last night 116 of her MP's voted against her agreement which has turned a drama into a full blown crisis. However this morning the posh boy Rees-Mogg is on Sky saying HIS group will support TM in the confidence vote this evening. These are the type of games being played by the very people we elect to run our country on our behalf.
I believe it's time for the ordinary people of this country to settle this issue once and for all and that's through a 2nd referendum, last time I voted leave and will do so again but whatever the outcome the result MUST be respected by all sides.
So you think we should have the choice between remaining controlled by the EU in two different ways, but not actually leave.
You must think people are very very very stupid.
Controlled in what way? We get the end of free movement, financial payments end eventually, we do have to give them a huge bag of money to go, we decide on law making in our country, and we are free to agree Trade deals with whoever we want.
Sounds fine to me.
Come on. I could address all of those things but I doubt that it's necessary. People aren't daft enough to think the "agreement" amounts to leaving the EU in any substantive way.
We all know the arguments on the subject but we also know which are truthful and which of them are just "spin" - we've made up our minds and it's no good just repeating the same misrepresentations of the "agreement" , any more than it is to keep repeating the old remain arguments or reiterating project fear. Those issues have both been voted on.
The referendum question was straightforward - in or out ! Having decided which, then it is incumbent upon the government to simply enact the will of the people and address any problems which arise in that process.
The vote was not dependant upon the easy or difficult passage of the exit, which is a separate matter or, for that matter ,how any foreign countries or powers might feel about it - still less whether they might be obstructive to our democratically expressed sovereign will