Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:58 pm
Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:09 pm
Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:56 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Company's attack other week didn't need var but ref still didn't give the red card it warranted! Var could not show anything different to what ref saw! And same for lots of decisions var will judge on? ref will see incidents do nothing but var will then tell him sorry your wrong we see it differently result ref changes mind even though he's seen exactly what hapoened
Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:28 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Company's attack other week didn't need var but ref still didn't give the red card it warranted! Var could not show anything different to what ref saw! And same for lots of decisions var will judge on? ref will see incidents do nothing but var will then tell him sorry your wrong we see it differently result ref changes mind even though he's seen exactly what hapoened
My personal view is the sort of incidents that Clattenburg describes, are the only ones VAR should be used for.
As he said, the top officials are having to referee more of the top games than in his day - they need the video support.
Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:14 am
dogfound wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Company's attack other week didn't need var but ref still didn't give the red card it warranted! Var could not show anything different to what ref saw! And same for lots of decisions var will judge on? ref will see incidents do nothing but var will then tell him sorry your wrong we see it differently result ref changes mind even though he's seen exactly what hapoened
My personal view is the sort of incidents that Clattenburg describes, are the only ones VAR should be used for.
As he said, the top officials are having to referee more of the top games than in his day - they need the video support.
but you've seen it work and no matter how many times they say it, those are not the only ones..
and nor should they be if truth is told..
its easily said the shove on the halfway line against your player doesn't require VAR......that is until a crucial goal is scored/ disputed free kick , penalty or sending off is given by VAR against your team 2 seconds later....you the manager and everyone else in the ground is going to be ranting how come the blatant shove is missed ..surely VAR should have picked it up..? and had it ,the second offence does not count....the logical outcome is more VAR
as Allan keeps saying ,its the thin edge of the wedge.
there is a saying,if its not broke,dont fix it...football is more popular now than its ever been it doesn't need fixing ,so why introduce half baked technology that ends up with human decisions all be it in slowmo..
Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:24 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:dogfound wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Company's attack other week didn't need var but ref still didn't give the red card it warranted! Var could not show anything different to what ref saw! And same for lots of decisions var will judge on? ref will see incidents do nothing but var will then tell him sorry your wrong we see it differently result ref changes mind even though he's seen exactly what hapoened
My personal view is the sort of incidents that Clattenburg describes, are the only ones VAR should be used for.
As he said, the top officials are having to referee more of the top games than in his day - they need the video support.
but you've seen it work and no matter how many times they say it, those are not the only ones..
and nor should they be if truth is told..
its easily said the shove on the halfway line against your player doesn't require VAR......that is until a crucial goal is scored/ disputed free kick , penalty or sending off is given by VAR against your team 2 seconds later....you the manager and everyone else in the ground is going to be ranting how come the blatant shove is missed ..surely VAR should have picked it up..? and had it ,the second offence does not count....the logical outcome is more VAR
as Allan keeps saying ,its the thin edge of the wedge.
there is a saying,if its not broke,dont fix it...football is more popular now than its ever been it doesn't need fixing ,so why introduce half baked technology that ends up with human decisions all be it in slowmo..
Agree with what you’re saying but this particular referee is clear. He says he’s seen occasions where some referees try to use it to re-referee a game and is clear when he says that not what VAR is for.
I think it will be a success. But the managers, players and referees need to be fully educated on what it will be used for. Penalty decisions, offside/fouls in the key phase of goals, red cards. Not a push on the halfway line or a handball on the halfway line, even if eventually a goal is scored from it - like MC says, that’s football. I think those fouls will only be reviewed if they are a key phase of a goal being scored (the scandalous decisions).
If it’s used in the way Clattenburg says here, then I don’t think there will be many complaints.
On another note, what a miss Clattenburg is to the Premier League. Rated him as one of the best in the world. Don’t think any current Premier League referee comes close to him and Howard Webb.
Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:51 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Company's attack other week didn't need var but ref still didn't give the red card it warranted! Var could not show anything different to what ref saw! And same for lots of decisions var will judge on? ref will see incidents do nothing but var will then tell him sorry your wrong we see it differently result ref changes mind even though he's seen exactly what hapoened
My personal view is the sort of incidents that Clattenburg describes, are the only ones VAR should be used for.
As he said, the top officials are having to referee more of the top games than in his day - they need the video support.
Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:46 am
Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:31 pm
T1JMO wrote:VAR should have been introduced 10+ years ago, it's a joke it hasn't already been put into place.
Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:17 pm
pembroke allan wrote:T1JMO wrote:VAR should have been introduced 10+ years ago, it's a joke it hasn't already been put into place.
Be surprised if the technology was here to manage 6 or more games simultaneously? Yes rugby had it but only one game at a time with man up in stand not 100 miles away?