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Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:36 am
malpasbluebird wrote:Love how the immediate response from some is to defend the actions. It is disgusting regardless of the context.
When we played Ireland on the last game of the WC Qualifiers I had a few lads behind me (ranging from 40s - 70s) who hurled the most anti-irish stuff I've ever heard for the whole game. It was disgusting.
its never right but in this instance its appalling. How many people within earshot were of irish descent? me and my father for one but I bet there would be others. and considering welsh and irish people share similar origins for the prejudice against us I was shocked.
at the end of the game I turned to them and said "can you maybe stop with the racism now. its not on boys" they told me to f*** off and asked my "why didn't you sit over there then?" pointing to the away end.
I know its a minority but this sort of behaviour cant be normalised. we're there to support OUR TEAM.
Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:49 am
SirJimmySchoular wrote:malpasbluebird wrote:Love how the immediate response from some is to defend the actions. It is disgusting regardless of the context.
When we played Ireland on the last game of the WC Qualifiers I had a few lads behind me (ranging from 40s - 70s) who hurled the most anti-irish stuff I've ever heard for the whole game. It was disgusting.
its never right but in this instance its appalling. How many people within earshot were of irish descent? me and my father for one but I bet there would be others. and considering welsh and irish people share similar origins for the prejudice against us I was shocked.
at the end of the game I turned to them and said "can you maybe stop with the racism now. its not on boys" they told me to f*** off and asked my "why didn't you sit over there then?" pointing to the away end.
I know its a minority but this sort of behaviour cant be normalised. we're there to support OUR TEAM.
No one was defending it. They were saying that the story is bollocks and that no one in their right minds makes an issue of a few pissheads behaving like chimps .
When I come across Irish tinkers cooking sausages on their engine blocks and abusing passers by in the car park of tescos I don't think that's a reflection on Irish people generally and I don't expect Martin O'Neil to apologise or feel guilty about it.
I've also got to tell you that if you go to football matches you're going to hear all sorts of stuff you might not want to and it's bloody ridiculous to bring identity politics onto a football terrace with you.
Not sure, incidentally, what you think is similar between the history of Ireland and Wales or the origins of its peoples. Not the point here, but I had to mention that since you raised it.
Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:57 am
Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:48 pm
nubbsy wrote:"A group of 3 or 4 people". f**k me is this really worth a print.
Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:51 pm
SirJimmySchoular wrote:malpasbluebird wrote:Love how the immediate response from some is to defend the actions. It is disgusting regardless of the context.
When we played Ireland on the last game of the WC Qualifiers I had a few lads behind me (ranging from 40s - 70s) who hurled the most anti-irish stuff I've ever heard for the whole game. It was disgusting.
its never right but in this instance its appalling. How many people within earshot were of irish descent? me and my father for one but I bet there would be others. and considering welsh and irish people share similar origins for the prejudice against us I was shocked.
at the end of the game I turned to them and said "can you maybe stop with the racism now. its not on boys" they told me to f*** off and asked my "why didn't you sit over there then?" pointing to the away end.
I know its a minority but this sort of behaviour cant be normalised. we're there to support OUR TEAM.
No one was defending it. They were saying that the story is bollocks and that no one in their right minds makes an issue of a few pissheads behaving like chimps .
When I come across Irish tinkers cooking sausages on their engine blocks and abusing passers by in the car park of tescos I don't think that's a reflection on Irish people generally and I don't expect Martin O'Neil to apologise or feel guilty about it.
I've also got to tell you that if you go to football matches you're going to hear all sorts of stuff you might not want to and it's bloody ridiculous to bring identity politics onto a football terrace with you.
Not sure, incidentally, what you think is similar between the history of Ireland and Wales or the origins of its peoples. Not the point here, but I had to mention that since you raised it.
Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:34 pm
malpasbluebird wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:malpasbluebird wrote:Love how the immediate response from some is to defend the actions. It is disgusting regardless of the context.
When we played Ireland on the last game of the WC Qualifiers I had a few lads behind me (ranging from 40s - 70s) who hurled the most anti-irish stuff I've ever heard for the whole game. It was disgusting.
its never right but in this instance its appalling. How many people within earshot were of irish descent? me and my father for one but I bet there would be others. and considering welsh and irish people share similar origins for the prejudice against us I was shocked.
at the end of the game I turned to them and said "can you maybe stop with the racism now. its not on boys" they told me to f*** off and asked my "why didn't you sit over there then?" pointing to the away end.
I know its a minority but this sort of behaviour cant be normalised. we're there to support OUR TEAM.
No one was defending it. They were saying that the story is bollocks and that no one in their right minds makes an issue of a few pissheads behaving like chimps .
When I come across Irish tinkers cooking sausages on their engine blocks and abusing passers by in the car park of tescos I don't think that's a reflection on Irish people generally and I don't expect Martin O'Neil to apologise or feel guilty about it.
I've also got to tell you that if you go to football matches you're going to hear all sorts of stuff you might not want to and it's bloody ridiculous to bring identity politics onto a football terrace with you.
Not sure, incidentally, what you think is similar between the history of Ireland and Wales or the origins of its peoples. Not the point here, but I had to mention that since you raised it.
I don't mind hearing 'bad' things on the terrace but some things are not excusable. im sure there's certain language you wouldn't tolerate hearing?? If I started hearing n words, p words etc I'd say something, I'd like to think in 2018 most people would. its not identity politics its common decency
and I said there are similarities in the origins of peoples prejudice towards us (i.e. historical English oppression). Not that our ACTUAL origins are similar (although, relatively speaking, they are, but that too is besides the point)
I just find it weird that people are more inclined to attack the story than the people that are making the bad behaviour in the first place
Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:47 pm
BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:malpasbluebird wrote:Love how the immediate response from some is to defend the actions. It is disgusting regardless of the context.
When we played Ireland on the last game of the WC Qualifiers I had a few lads behind me (ranging from 40s - 70s) who hurled the most anti-irish stuff I've ever heard for the whole game. It was disgusting.
its never right but in this instance its appalling. How many people within earshot were of irish descent? me and my father for one but I bet there would be others. and considering welsh and irish people share similar origins for the prejudice against us I was shocked.
at the end of the game I turned to them and said "can you maybe stop with the racism now. its not on boys" they told me to f*** off and asked my "why didn't you sit over there then?" pointing to the away end.
I know its a minority but this sort of behaviour cant be normalised. we're there to support OUR TEAM.
No one was defending it. They were saying that the story is bollocks and that no one in their right minds makes an issue of a few pissheads behaving like chimps .
When I come across Irish tinkers cooking sausages on their engine blocks and abusing passers by in the car park of tescos I don't think that's a reflection on Irish people generally and I don't expect Martin O'Neil to apologise or feel guilty about it.
I've also got to tell you that if you go to football matches you're going to hear all sorts of stuff you might not want to and it's bloody ridiculous to bring identity politics onto a football terrace with you.
Not sure, incidentally, what you think is similar between the history of Ireland and Wales or the origins of its peoples. Not the point here, but I had to mention that since you raised it.
Racist chants at our own captain and you think it’s identity politics that people are appalled? Odd stance.
Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:09 pm
malpasbluebird wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:malpasbluebird wrote:Love how the immediate response from some is to defend the actions. It is disgusting regardless of the context.
When we played Ireland on the last game of the WC Qualifiers I had a few lads behind me (ranging from 40s - 70s) who hurled the most anti-irish stuff I've ever heard for the whole game. It was disgusting.
its never right but in this instance its appalling. How many people within earshot were of irish descent? me and my father for one but I bet there would be others. and considering welsh and irish people share similar origins for the prejudice against us I was shocked.
at the end of the game I turned to them and said "can you maybe stop with the racism now. its not on boys" they told me to f*** off and asked my "why didn't you sit over there then?" pointing to the away end.
I know its a minority but this sort of behaviour cant be normalised. we're there to support OUR TEAM.
No one was defending it. They were saying that the story is bollocks and that no one in their right minds makes an issue of a few pissheads behaving like chimps .
When I come across Irish tinkers cooking sausages on their engine blocks and abusing passers by in the car park of tescos I don't think that's a reflection on Irish people generally and I don't expect Martin O'Neil to apologise or feel guilty about it.
I've also got to tell you that if you go to football matches you're going to hear all sorts of stuff you might not want to and it's bloody ridiculous to bring identity politics onto a football terrace with you.
Not sure, incidentally, what you think is similar between the history of Ireland and Wales or the origins of its peoples. Not the point here, but I had to mention that since you raised it.
I don't mind hearing 'bad' things on the terrace but some things are not excusable. im sure there's certain language you wouldn't tolerate hearing?? If I started hearing n words, p words etc I'd say something, I'd like to think in 2018 most people would. its not identity politics its common decency
and I said there are similarities in the origins of peoples prejudice towards us (i.e. historical English oppression). Not that our ACTUAL origins are similar (although, relatively speaking, they are, but that too is besides the point)
I just find it weird that people are more inclined to attack the story than the people that are making the bad behaviour in the first place