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Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:35 am
Cardiff City to appeal controversial Joe Ralls red card against Tottenham HotspurBy Dominic Boothhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=you ... qsa_rfDidsMonday 8th October 2018
Cardiff City are to appeal Joe Ralls' controversial red card against Tottenham Hotspur, according to reports.
The midfielder saw red midway through the second half of Cardiff's 1-0 defeat to Spurs , prompting a furious reaction from Neil Warnock after the involvement of many of the hosts' players with referee Mike Dean.
The Sun reports that the Bluebirds will now appeal Ralls' three-match ban and look to get it overturned by the Football Association.
How it unfoldedWarnock said after the game he thought the red card was harsh and vented fury at Harry Kane's involvement.
"I thought it was a very soft one to say the least," said Warnock.
"I didn’t think it was violent conduct, I thought it was cynical."Kane and other Tottenham players were seen haranguing the referee and Harry Arter claimed Dean changed his decision from a yellow card to a red.
Many pundits also disagreed on whether the tackle was a red card — serious foul play — or just a yellow.
Cardiff now go into the international break but clearly want Ralls to feature in crucial games against Fulham, Liverpool and Leicester after the hiatus.
As it stands, the midfielder will miss those three contests.
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Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:39 am
I can’t understand why.
It was a clear red and we have no chance of having it overturned.
Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:44 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:I can’t understand why.
It was a clear red and we have no chance of having it overturned.
Seems to be varied opinions on the decision - Match of the Day pundits said red whilst Keown and Ince on Final Score both said yellow - so I guess its worth a go.
Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:46 am
Red all day long and for us to be appealing it, makes Warnock and co look very silly.
Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:57 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:I can’t understand why.
It was a clear red and we have no chance of having it overturned.
Ned, I'm with you on that
I was shocked when he did it (out on the wing and wasn't the last man) and it looked OTT and reckless. Regardless of whether Mike "look at me" Dean was allegedly going to initially give a yellow or not, IMHO he got it right!
Can you imagine if an opposing player did that to one of ours?
Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:03 pm
Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:14 pm
It was cynical but not dangerous
A yellow for me but cant see it being overturned .......On the bright side gives someone else a chance now
Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:19 pm
Accept the decision and move on. It will give NW a chance to try a different setup in midfield
Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:38 pm
Mr Moo Cow wrote:It was cynical but not dangerous
A yellow for me but cant see it being overturned .......On the bright side gives someone else a chance now
Not sure that it wasn’t dangerous.. knee high deliberate tackle while a player was in full flight?? Could have caused a considerable amount of damage
Definite red for me.
Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:42 pm
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Mr Moo Cow wrote:It was cynical but not dangerous
A yellow for me but cant see it being overturned .......On the bright side gives someone else a chance now
Not sure that it wasn’t dangerous.. knee high deliberate tackle while a player was in full flight?? Could have caused a considerable amount of damage
Definite red for me.
I wouldn't disagree with you for some its yellow and for others its a red
He won't be a great miss anyway
Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:45 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:I can’t understand why.
It was a clear red and we have no chance of having it overturned.
Mark Halsey doesn't agree with you.
Neither do I.
A clear yellow certainly
Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:47 pm
I agree that it was cynical and Ralls should have tugged his shirt, but in my opinion it was never a challenge to cause serious injury as the law states it has to be brutal or potential to cause serious injury, and I saw a far more dangerous tackle likely to cause serious injury by Danny Ings in their game with Chelsea yesterday, and he only got a yellow card. He was late and over the ball catching the Chelsea player above the ankle, so that in my view was a far worse tackle than Ralls did. There again Mike Dean does like to be controversial.
Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:51 pm
Personally I thought it deserved a red - but if you think about it it's not really violent conduct and no different to a player pulling a shirt to stop the opposition getting to the ball...
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:15 pm
avondaleblue wrote:I agree that it was cynical and Ralls should have tugged his shirt, but in my opinion it was never a challenge to cause serious injury as the law states it has to be brutal or potential to cause serious injury, and I saw a far more dangerous tackle likely to cause serious injury by Danny Ings in their game with Chelsea yesterday, and he only got a yellow card. He was late and over the ball catching the Chelsea player above the ankle, so that in my view was a far worse tackle than Ralls did. There again Mike Dean does like to be controversial.
I agree.
Ings challenge was far worse.
I have seen players legs broken by tackles like that.
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:16 pm
Elwood Blues wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:I can’t understand why.
It was a clear red and we have no chance of having it overturned.
Mark Halsey doesn't agree with you.
Neither do I.
A clear yellow certainly
The vast majority do agree with me though.
Not a chance will this be overturned, just a complete waste of everyone’s time.
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:17 pm
avondaleblue wrote:I agree that it was cynical and Ralls should have tugged his shirt, but in my opinion it was never a challenge to cause serious injury as the law states it has to be brutal or potential to cause serious injury, and I saw a far more dangerous tackle likely to cause serious injury by Danny Ings in their game with Chelsea yesterday, and he only got a yellow card. He was late and over the ball catching the Chelsea player above the ankle, so that in my view was a far worse tackle than Ralls did. There again Mike Dean does like to be controversial.
I thought Ings should have been sent off as well.
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:39 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:Elwood Blues wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:I can’t understand why.
It was a clear red and we have no chance of having it overturned.
Mark Halsey doesn't agree with you.
Neither do I.
A clear yellow certainly
The vast majority do agree with me though.
Not a chance will this be overturned, just a complete waste of everyone’s time.
Vast majority of who?
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:40 pm
Do our appeals go to the Welsh FA anymore? Thats the only way that will ever get overturned.
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:44 pm
Having seen that J am still convinced it was a yellow card.
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:59 pm
Will depend on dean's report as to wether it's rescinded?
But seeing it again it won't be rescinded as was reckless and dangerous despite what NW says! As for the yellow Dean wa suppose to be reaching for? He just put hands behind back taking time and appeared to be taking advice from 4th official or lino.
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:10 pm
If you watch the You tube clip at about 1 min 20secs you can see Mike Dean going to his left back pocket to show a yellow card. But after Harry and his England chums confront him he goes to his right back pocket to show a red card. Don't tell me he was not influenced by the Spurs players. I think that is why Warnock is appealing it because he was about to show a yellow card, unless of course Dean might say "Oh I forgot which pocket was yellow and red, and Harry and his chums reminded me". I agree with Warnock, Lord Harry of England IS a tw*t.
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:12 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Will depend on dean's report as to wether it's rescinded?
But seeing it again it won't be rescinded as was reckless and dangerous despite what NW says! As for the yellow Dean wa suppose to be reaching for? He just put hands behind back taking time and appeared to be taking advice from 4th official or lino.
He was only a few yards away himself, if he needs advice from the lino and 4th official, he really should not be on the pitch himself!
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:16 pm
Elwood Blues wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Elwood Blues wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:I can’t understand why.
It was a clear red and we have no chance of having it overturned.
Mark Halsey doesn't agree with you.
Neither do I.
A clear yellow certainly
The vast majority do agree with me though.
Not a chance will this be overturned, just a complete waste of everyone’s time.
Vast majority of who?
Vast majority of fans, of pundits etc.
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:19 pm
avondaleblue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Will depend on dean's report as to wether it's rescinded?
But seeing it again it won't be rescinded as was reckless and dangerous despite what NW says! As for the yellow Dean wa suppose to be reaching for? He just put hands behind back taking time and appeared to be taking advice from 4th official or lino.
He was only a few yards away himself, if he needs advice from the lino and 4th official, he really should not be on the pitch himself!
That's been my argument with var if ref cannot see from 10yds he shouldn't be a ref? But liooked again at him and yes hand is by left pocket but he was on move so doesn't mean he's reaching for yellow? By same token he is standing passively both hands behind back away from players before reaching for red, so don't think spurs or kane influenced his decision? was he taking advice then from others or was it his own decision?
Maybe he was just getting confirmation it warranted a red
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:44 pm
Just the fact that it's being debated and ex referees are saying it wasn't a red is enough to appeal it. What do we have to lose?!
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:46 pm
WHAT MEDIA WALES SAY
The Ralls incident happened right in front of the Press box. My immediate reaction was that it was reckless, dangerous and high and he would be sent off. Which, of course, is what happened.
That was pretty much the view Dean would have had pitchside, too.
Subsequent TV replays show it wasn't quite as high as first thought, but it was still high enough.
One thing it most certainly wasn't was just a simple trip. Ralls felt Spurs might race away and score so took one for the team by taking out the man. It was blatant and cynical and at the very least he gave Dean a decision to make. He played the man, not the ball.
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:54 pm
Red card, cynical challenge......
Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:23 pm
Never a red. f*cking soft the lot of you.
Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:23 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:Elwood Blues wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Elwood Blues wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:I can’t understand why.
It was a clear red and we have no chance of having it overturned.
Mark Halsey doesn't agree with you.
Neither do I.
A clear yellow certainly
The vast majority do agree with me though.
Not a chance will this be overturned, just a complete waste of everyone’s time.
Vast majority of who?
Vast majority of fans, of pundits etc.
Most of whom don’t have a grasp of the laws!!
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