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NEIL WARNOCK ON CLIFF EDGE: FACT OR FANTASY?

Postby Sven » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:19 am

Cardiff City manager Neil Warnock dangerously close to being sacked
By Drew Farmer


Tuesday 25th September 2018


Cardiff City manager Neil Warnock could be the first Premier League manager sacked this season. The Bluebirds currently sit second from bottom in the Premier League with just two points. Leading sportsbooks have placed Warnock as one of the favourites to go first this term alongside Manchester United’s Jose Mourinho.


Neil Warnock and Cardiff City love affair nearly over

After successfully gaining promotion with Cardiff last season, Warnock’s time as the team’s manager could end soon. Cardiff are one of three Premier League teams without a win this term. The Bluebirds have scored just three goals while allowing 14.

Saturday’s 5-0 beating at the hands of Manchester City saw the team “punished” by a better club. It was the fourth time Cardiff had given up two or more goals in a game this season and the third straight in which they had given up three or more. Cardiff’s rock solid defence from a season ago hasn’t translated to the Premier League.


Frustrating for Cardiff has been the lack of production from their two most expensive summer transfers. Josh Murphy arrived from Norwich City for £11 million while Bobby Reid signed from Bristol City for £10m. Neither has scored nor contributed an assist. Murphy has started just two matches while Reid has started four times. The former has been experiencing injuries along with a host of other Cardiff players.

Warnock’s summer transfer dealings seemed to be based on buying players with potential over proven quantities. So far, it looks to have failed. But the good news is, those Championship quality signings could work out next season if Cardiff are back in the Championship.


Will Neil Warnock make it to October?

To blame Cardiff’s poor results solely on Warnock would be a mistake. The team’s individual play hasn’t been good enough and Cardiff — despite spending £21m on Murphy and Reid — have one of the weakest sides in the Premier League.

Murphy and Reid had success in the Championship. In Reid’s case, he had one outstanding season scoring goals. That came last term with Bristol City. He tallied 21 goals in 52 games in all competitions. His best return prior to that was four goals in all competitions. Expecting Reid to continue his form from last season was a mistake.

Cardiff are already out of the EFL Cup and will resume play at the weekend against Burnley. Three weeks ago, Cardiff would have fancied their chances to get a first win of the season against Burnley. However, Burnley are out of the Europa League and now firmly focused on their domestic campaign. This was evidenced on Saturday during the team’s throttling of Bournemouth. Warnock’s battered defence will not want to see another two-plus goal game, but Burnley look likely to attack from the start.


Vincent Tan and Neil Warnock

Cardiff owner Vincent Tan has overseen the club since 2010. It has been a strange period under his ownership that even saw the team change its badge and colour scheme before reverting back to its traditional look. Warnock is the ninth manager to work under the Tan regime. Dave Jones, Malky Mackay, David Kerslake, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, Danny Gabbidon, Scott Young, Russell Slade, and Paul Trollope all managed the club before Warnock’s arrival.

Warnock took over in October 2016, but Tan won’t get sentimental over sacking the manager. Tan will want to remain in the Premier League and continue receiving the riches that top-flight English football offer. If Warnock and Cardiff cannot win against Burnley, his time in Wales may be over.
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Re: NEIL WARNOCK ON CLIFF EDGE: FACT OR FANTASY?

Postby Sven » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:30 am

Hopefully nothing more than the ramblings of a story hungry hack, as the article doesn't really cite any firm information other than the bookies odds...

The final paragraph says a lot about the writer's understanding (or lack of) about the relationship between owner and manager and Neil Warnock will surely be allowed to see the job through?

We know what happened last time we swapped manager mid-season or could the journo be right? :shock:
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Re: NEIL WARNOCK ON CLIFF EDGE: FACT OR FANTASY?

Postby Bluesman » Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:08 am

Who the f**k is drew farmer. Another knob jumping on the bandwagon.
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Re: NEIL WARNOCK ON CLIFF EDGE: FACT OR FANTASY?

Postby fred keenor » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:15 am

Absolute rubbish report
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Re: NEIL WARNOCK ON CLIFF EDGE: FACT OR FANTASY?

Postby davids » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:42 am

Shocking piece of sensationalist bullshit by an idiot who has no idea what he's talking about.

Looks like it's been translated from a foreign language and it seems he's drawing conclusions without any factual basis.

Personally I'm not sure that Tan is all that bothered actually about staying in the Premier League as his main concern now is to try to recoup as much of his investment as he can before selling the club. The Premier league money and parachute payments will help him do that and even if we were to get relegated this season there can be no better manager to have in the Championship than Neil Warnock.

Even Tan must surely see that and he seems to be somebody who learns from his mistakes. To sack Warnock now would be a massive mistake in my humble opinion.
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Postby Forever Blue » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:43 am

Absolute awful story, no substance.
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Postby Wolfpac » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:44 am

Shocking journalism once again, who the f*ck is Farmer Hegarty and why is he reporting on us, surely he’s got some spuds to grow
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Postby mugsy » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:06 am

Farmer - this smells of bullshit :)
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Re: NEIL WARNOCK ON CLIFF EDGE: FACT OR FANTASY?

Postby ealing_ayatollah » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:52 am

No chance. Tan is actually very loyal to those who show similar respect and loyalty to him. Look at how Slade left. All very dignified and I think the respect Tan has for Neil is huge plus he knows that of we do fo down there is no one better to get is back up again.

Don't see Warnock going anywhere to be honest.
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Re: NEIL WARNOCK ON CLIFF EDGE: FACT OR FANTASY?

Postby montyblue » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:30 am

There' s always some t..t stirring the pot i have criticisms of some of the things warnock has done or failed to do but to sack him what for?bournmouth we where funding our feet then 2 draws a close game against arsenal and chelsea up till 80 mins loosing to man city 5 0 like liverpool did last season i would much rather stick with neil rather than have the likes of Sam alleydyce, you can only do so much with what you got can you imagine jose or pep trying to manage cardiff with what we have they would do no better cardiff sqaud 59 million man city 980 million .don't start getting on the managers back i don't suppose neil enjoys loosing either lets keep singing neil warnocks barmy army and i am sure we will keep getting the response.
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Re: NEIL WARNOCK ON CLIFF EDGE: FACT OR FANTASY?

Postby Woodville Willie » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:39 am

Utter tripe here!

‘The bookies are rarely wrong’ is an adage that simply does not work for football at this stage in the contest. They have to produce betting odds. That’s their game but I don’t think for one moment that there is anything but a quick look at the table.

Tan loves Warnock!!

He’s staying I hope.
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Re: NEIL WARNOCK ON CLIFF EDGE: FACT OR FANTASY?

Postby Sven » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:48 am

Woodville Willie wrote:Utter tripe here!

‘The bookies are rarely wrong’ is an adage that simply does not work for football at this stage in the contest. They have to produce betting odds. That’s their game but I don’t think for one moment that there is anything but a quick look at the table.

Tan loves Warnock!!

He’s staying I hope.


Yep, I agree with that and that's why the OP had the 'fact to fantasy' heading! :thumbup:

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Re: NEIL WARNOCK ON CLIFF EDGE: FACT OR FANTASY?

Postby SirJimmySchoular » Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:52 am

Total nonsense I think. The bookies had Sir Neil as favourite to be sacked straight after we got promotion.
I try to avoid bringing the subject up but when a similar event took place last time we were here I didn't watch another game that season.
I really really really don't like disloyalty and ingratitude and I'll have no part ,however small , in anything like that.

It couldn't achieve anything either because any shortcomings are not in the manager. He continues to do the best anyone could do with the rescources which he's got and given time I'm pretty sure he'll pull it off in the end. I also think that Mr. Tan is being incredibly supportive of the Club , despite being burned in the past, and this sort of made up journalism should be ignored because although it's without substance it's potentially divisive and damaging.

However, we can see how the press get together to try and prove some bollocks they made up about Brexit or Donald Trump, and the way they refused to accept that our team was succeeding in the Championship till they were actually promoted. Just like the other two subjects they got angry and refused to accept it even when it happened and they've reached a point where they talk about little else except their campaigns to make reality comply with their mistaken predictions .

Let's hope that this isn't a case where the dishonest media will start piling on the pressure to try and create an outcome which complies with their own egotistical falsehoods.
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Re: NEIL WARNOCK ON CLIFF EDGE: FACT OR FANTASY?

Postby 2blue2handle » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:01 pm

I don't see any reason to replace Warnock at this time, now is his time to prove any doubters wrong with a run of games we can pick up points in.
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Re: NEIL WARNOCK ON CLIFF EDGE: FACT OR FANTASY?

Postby dogfound » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:54 pm

SirJimmySchoular wrote:Total nonsense I think. The bookies had Sir Neil as favourite to be sacked straight after we got promotion.
I try to avoid bringing the subject up but when a similar event took place last time we were here I didn't watch another game that season.
I really really really don't like disloyalty and ingratitude and I'll have no part ,however small , in anything like that.

It couldn't achieve anything either because any shortcomings are not in the manager. He continues to do the best anyone could do with the rescources which he's got and given time I'm pretty sure he'll pull it off in the end. I also think that Mr. Tan is being incredibly supportive of the Club , despite being burned in the past, and this sort of made up journalism should be ignored because although it's without substance it's potentially divisive and damaging.

However, we can see how the press get together to try and prove some bollocks they made up about Brexit or Donald Trump, and the way they refused to accept that our team was succeeding in the Championship till they were actually promoted. Just like the other two subjects they got angry and refused to accept it even when it happened and they've reached a point where they talk about little else except their campaigns to make reality comply with their mistaken predictions .

Let's hope that this isn't a case where the dishonest media will start piling on the pressure to try and create an outcome which complies with their own egotistical falsehoods.




you didn't watch another game because a disloyal ingrate got sacked... :laughing5: :laughing5:
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Re: NEIL WARNOCK ON CLIFF EDGE: FACT OR FANTASY?

Postby brickyblue » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:52 am

The mans been given an impossible job to do let him get on with it not his fault we spent £2:50 On players is it you get what you pay for
If like to see a top manager do Warnocks job I bet they would shit it.
Let the man get on with his impossible job he's good at the impossible
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