Jock wrote:Dave67 wrote:Jock wrote:I certainly would have, that fat nonce Heath was well aware of the ultimate goal of a federal Euro Superstate.
Why do you feel the need to refer to Edward Heath as a fat nonce?
What does this contribute to your argument?
There is no substantive argument here just smear.
Heath Knew the end game for what was sold to the electorate as a tarrif free trading block, the Federal Superstate you long for was planned by the Bilderberg Group in the 50s and 60s and the fat Nonce was up to his armpits in it. Tell me, why do you think Soros is so keen to spike Brexit, do you think it’s because he cares about his fellow man?
We had a referendum, your side lost, however rather than respecting the democratic mandate, backing our country and fighting for the best deal we can get, treacherous scum backed Junkers, Tusk and Merkel.
Absolutely correct ! There's now a declassified letter which proves beyond any doubt that Heath deliberately lied on that. I'd be in a position to know the truth regarding your suggestion that he was a " fat nonce" by the way, and I shan't contradict you.
To answer your detractor on your behalf, if Heath was in fact a "fat nonce" whilst pretending otherwise then that is evidence of dishonesty. If the man was living a lie, ( which I happen to know that he was), then it is hard to imagine that we can accept anything he said publicly as entirely truthful can we ? The evidence of a witness can be impeached in court if he can be shown to have been dishonest in other matters so it's perfectly reasonable to mention it.
To Jock I shall say that whilst you assess the situation quite correctly in every way, I'm sure you'll have found by now that over 90% of people are simply too stupid to convince upon matters like this . How else could the State Broadcaster and other Soros bolstered globalist echo chambers convince them that Britain, until quite recently a global superpower with a bigger empire than Rome and the financial /industrial powerhouse which produced the industrial revolution and framed the modern world , is incapable of functioning as an independent nation ?
Unfortunately, as long as those who ultimately drive the Soros agenda also control Politicians, State and most other media , State "education" and Google they can control the information upon which the general peasantry will form opinions and make decisions. In the past I believed that we were a better people than to be hoodwinked like a bunch of Russian serfs, but unfortunately I was wrong and so the answer to all this is not trying to explain logic and common sense to the general public.
That's a frustrating and impossible target at this point.
Mind you, what the answer actually is I don't know . I'm thinking that the best hope for liberty and mind emancipation for the people lies in the likelihood that those who have mesmerised them with fake news, fake science and fake consciousness will eventually cock it all up themselves. The lies and falsehoods are, after all ,now getting to a point where they are so completely ridiculous that perhaps one day even the hard of thinking will cop on and begin to shout " the Emporer isn't wearing any clothes"
Anyway, well said Jock, and be aware that there are probably far more good men in the world who can see what's going on than you think