dogfound wrote:englishbluebird wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:maccydee wrote:englishbluebird wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:englishbluebird wrote:Plus if we go by the FIFA rankings . England comfortably beat Sweden who beat the #6 team in the world Switzerland and also managed to top the group that included #1 in the world Germany.
Sweden lost to Germany.
Germany lost to South Korea.
So therefore South Korea are better then Germany? The FIFA rankings mean little and even the most anti-English person must surely see 4th place was an impressive achievement for them
Well said.
Last time we played England we lost during our run to the semis of the Euros. They battered us in fact. More than that they have near us five times on the trot.
England are nearly 12 times the size of Wales so really they should "batter us".
Wales got to the Euros semi by winning their group (no prizes for guessing who they beat to that spot), by beating the strong favourites Belgium (no prizes for guessing who lost to them twice of late) and got knocked out by the eventual winners.
As the OP stated England are overrated and overhyped and have crap support as this world cup showed. It's coming home MORE like They Stayed Home.
Belgium were not the favourites. Germany,Spain,England and France according to all the experts were predicted to do better then Belgium. Come on aswell,we all know attendances to Wales matches were embarassing pre-Bale and the Euro 2016 tournamnet
attendances at Wales matches were embarrassing pre Bale.
you do realise we are a nation of only 3million people ?
per capita our crowds hold up well against anyones and always have.
I think his comments are a bit harsh and not entirely correct, if anything our crowds dipped once Bale started
Here's our averages for the last 8 Qualifying campaigns
Euro 2004 Qualifying - 72,356 (the highest in Europe at the time)
World Cup 2006 Qualifying Campaign pre bale was 54,267
Euro 2008 Qualifying with Bale playing regularly was 24,672
World Cup Qualifying 2010 - 18,727
Euro 2012 Qualifying - 25,883
World Cup 2014 Qualifying - 15,623
Euro 2016 Qualifying - 30,239
World Cup 2018 Qualifying - 32,522
Only 2 out of the 8 I would say are a bit poor, but in fairness in 2010 apart from Germany/Finland we were in a group with 4 other countries who brought next to nothing in terms of away support, 2014 was a low. Having said that, for a country of our size to me those figures are decent, its like any Club/Country attendances fluctuate, we are a small country who have qualified for 1 tournament since 1958.
He should also remember that apart from Scotland, England were nowhere near to selling out Wembley in any of their World Cup Qualifiers for Russia, for the size of their country and the fact its their 'National Game' and they qualifying more often than not I would say their attendances are more embarrassing than ours.