Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:12 am
Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:52 am
Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:58 am
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:That is very worrying - they shouldn't be allowed to get away with making threats like that whether it's a small minority of their fans or a large number. It shouldn't be in Russia if they are threatening people and the World Cup governing body should be looking into it. Perhaps everyone should boycott going! No money for them (in turns of tourism and ticket sales etc etc) and they would look really stupid if only their fans turned up to half empty stadiums! Thing is why should we? But in all honesty some things are just not worth putting yourself at risk for IMO.
Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:15 pm
Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:23 pm
The problems Saesneg thugs who are game on is if they have violent offences in their past their chances of getting a Russian Visa is very slim to none.BEEP AHM wrote:IMO - England wont back down going to Russia, not in normal numbers but those who do will be more switched on this time and be carrying knives also, so unfortunately I do reckon major problems out there and prob deaths - sad
Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:03 pm
nubbsy wrote:Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:That is very worrying - they shouldn't be allowed to get away with making threats like that whether it's a small minority of their fans or a large number. It shouldn't be in Russia if they are threatening people and the World Cup governing body should be looking into it. Perhaps everyone should boycott going! No money for them (in turns of tourism and ticket sales etc etc) and they would look really stupid if only their fans turned up to half empty stadiums! Thing is why should we? But in all honesty some things are just not worth putting yourself at risk for IMO.
England were bad enough back in the day. They ruined many a city center and put enough people in hospital but unfortunately for them it's come back to bite them on the arse.
I'm not saying it's right, I just couldn't really give a shit about them getting bullied because they've been doing it for years and years.
Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:51 pm
ealing_ayatollah wrote:nubbsy wrote:Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:That is very worrying - they shouldn't be allowed to get away with making threats like that whether it's a small minority of their fans or a large number. It shouldn't be in Russia if they are threatening people and the World Cup governing body should be looking into it. Perhaps everyone should boycott going! No money for them (in turns of tourism and ticket sales etc etc) and they would look really stupid if only their fans turned up to half empty stadiums! Thing is why should we? But in all honesty some things are just not worth putting yourself at risk for IMO.
England were bad enough back in the day. They ruined many a city center and put enough people in hospital but unfortunately for them it's come back to bite them on the arse.
I'm not saying it's right, I just couldn't really give a shit about them getting bullied because they've been doing it for years and years.
Problem is that for a lot of people outside of the UK there is little or no difference between England and Wales, i'm sure most Russians won't understand or care about the difference.
Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:51 pm
Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:55 pm
ealing_ayatollah wrote:nubbsy wrote:Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:That is very worrying - they shouldn't be allowed to get away with making threats like that whether it's a small minority of their fans or a large number. It shouldn't be in Russia if they are threatening people and the World Cup governing body should be looking into it. Perhaps everyone should boycott going! No money for them (in turns of tourism and ticket sales etc etc) and they would look really stupid if only their fans turned up to half empty stadiums! Thing is why should we? But in all honesty some things are just not worth putting yourself at risk for IMO.
England were bad enough back in the day. They ruined many a city center and put enough people in hospital but unfortunately for them it's come back to bite them on the arse.
I'm not saying it's right, I just couldn't really give a shit about them getting bullied because they've been doing it for years and years.
Problem is that for a lot of people outside of the UK there is little or no difference between England and Wales, i'm sure most Russians won't understand or care about the difference.
Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:16 pm
Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:09 pm
Jock wrote:I think puntin will ensure there's no violence, he'll keep the naughty Russkies well out of the way.
Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:40 pm
Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:45 pm
TERRYB wrote:Am I the only one who thinks the Russians may not have it all their own way? They will also be targeted by German, Italian, Polish and other nations Ultras and they also won't have the surprise element they had in Marseille either. Could be very interesting.
Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:37 pm
Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:26 pm
Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:26 am
Jimmy Scoular wrote:Russia was awarded the WC because it bought it, anyone who thinks different is an imbecile.As for violence we are dealing with a backward culture who has barely entered the 20th let alone the 21st centuries. They have no concept of democracy and look to the west for values, habits and culture, hence their simplistic adherence to how UK football was 30 years ago. Mix this with rabid Putinesque nationalistic macho bollocks we have a recipe for disaster. Anyone with half a brain would not entertain such a trip.
Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:57 am
DreamWelsh wrote:Personally if I was going I would be staying sober and wouldn't go unless I was with a good mob, I'd be tooled up for my own self defence, were as I'm against people using weapons, a knife would be a must just for your own safety. I wouldn't take any family that's for sure especially elderly family who can't defend themselves
Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:42 am
TERRYB wrote:Am I the only one who thinks the Russians may not have it all their own way? They will also be targeted by German, Italian, Polish and other nations Ultras and they also won't have the surprise element they had in Marseille either. Could be very interesting.
Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:46 am
BEEP AHM wrote:TERRYB wrote:Am I the only one who thinks the Russians may not have it all their own way? They will also be targeted by German, Italian, Polish and other nations Ultras and they also won't have the surprise element they had in Marseille either. Could be very interesting.
England with their heads screwed on will smash them mate. That Marseille was easy target, not expecting it, pissed up, drinking in little groups. England mobs a few days later in Lille playing us would of gone through them
Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:23 pm
Forever Blue wrote:BEEP AHM wrote:TERRYB wrote:Am I the only one who thinks the Russians may not have it all their own way? They will also be targeted by German, Italian, Polish and other nations Ultras and they also won't have the surprise element they had in Marseille either. Could be very interesting.
England with their heads screwed on will smash them mate. That Marseille was easy target, not expecting it, pissed up, drinking in little groups. England mobs a few days later in Lille playing us would of gone through them
Old England 100% would of, really not sure about new England.
Football banning orders and a lot of older lads do not go anymore.
The new football lad only knows how to mouth.
Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:36 pm
Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:15 pm
nubbsy wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:nubbsy wrote:Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:That is very worrying - they shouldn't be allowed to get away with making threats like that whether it's a small minority of their fans or a large number. It shouldn't be in Russia if they are threatening people and the World Cup governing body should be looking into it. Perhaps everyone should boycott going! No money for them (in turns of tourism and ticket sales etc etc) and they would look really stupid if only their fans turned up to half empty stadiums! Thing is why should we? But in all honesty some things are just not worth putting yourself at risk for IMO.
England were bad enough back in the day. They ruined many a city center and put enough people in hospital but unfortunately for them it's come back to bite them on the arse.
I'm not saying it's right, I just couldn't really give a shit about them getting bullied because they've been doing it for years and years.
Problem is that for a lot of people outside of the UK there is little or no difference between England and Wales, i'm sure most Russians won't understand or care about the difference.
Hopefully if we wear red and stick with our own then they will know the difference. They'll know where England are playing and target them, not the Welsh games.
Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:41 pm
Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:48 pm
Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:06 pm
BEEP AHM wrote:Forever Blue wrote:BEEP AHM wrote:TERRYB wrote:Am I the only one who thinks the Russians may not have it all their own way? They will also be targeted by German, Italian, Polish and other nations Ultras and they also won't have the surprise element they had in Marseille either. Could be very interesting.
England with their heads screwed on will smash them mate. That Marseille was easy target, not expecting it, pissed up, drinking in little groups. England mobs a few days later in Lille playing us would of gone through them
Old England 100% would of, really not sure about new England.
Football banning orders and a lot of older lads do not go anymore.
The new football lad only knows how to mouth.
yeah suppose you are right to a certain extent mate, but a lot of English will see this as a challenge - the number of lads in Lille was second to none. Granted in Russia numbers will be less, but I forecast a lot doing what Russia done in Marseille, flying in for England games and back out within 48-72 hours - wont be treated as a holiday. FI in UK will have a big shout in this at the end of the day. I am not fussed on England at the best of times but I would have a little smile if they put it to Russia out there. Footage I seen in Marseille was bullying in my eyes
Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:07 pm
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:11 am
Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:51 am