' NEIL WARNOCK TO HOLD MEETING TALKS TODAY '
Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:40 am
" NEIL WARNOCK TO HOLD MEETING TALKS TODAY "
Sky Sports
Monday 20th February 2017
Neil Warnock will hold talks with Cardiff City's chairman today to discuss his future at the club.
Warnock, who replaced Paul Trollope on a short-term deal in October, told Goals on Sunday: "I am seeing Mehmet [Cardiff chairman Mehmet Dalman] Monday and having a chat about everything.
"I said when I came a few months ago that I don't want to stay if we are not going to go for promotion, or just to pick my money up.
"I am at an age where I want to have a carrot and go for the eighth promotion. I am not bothered about having a lot of money.
"Four clubs on Deadline Day paid £12m for a player, I am looking for half of that, for four players! We are talking and we are on the same wavelength."
Sky Sports
Monday 20th February 2017
Neil Warnock will hold talks with Cardiff City's chairman today to discuss his future at the club.
Warnock, who replaced Paul Trollope on a short-term deal in October, told Goals on Sunday: "I am seeing Mehmet [Cardiff chairman Mehmet Dalman] Monday and having a chat about everything.
"I said when I came a few months ago that I don't want to stay if we are not going to go for promotion, or just to pick my money up.
"I am at an age where I want to have a carrot and go for the eighth promotion. I am not bothered about having a lot of money.
"Four clubs on Deadline Day paid £12m for a player, I am looking for half of that, for four players! We are talking and we are on the same wavelength."
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Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK TO HOLD MEETING TALKS TODAY '
Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:49 am
Warnock has turned around the Bluebirds' fortunes
The right noises are all there to avoid another Toshack. The noise of 15,000 at Cardiff City Stadium on Saturday reminded why you hope that the Cardiff City board back Neil Warnock.
By Chris Wathan
Monday 20th February 2017
There's been plenty of times down the years that Cardiff City's decision to sell John Toshack has been brought up, almost akin to a footballing parable.
The 1970 move of the local-lad-turned-great-striker to Liverpool, just when the side were threatening promotion to the top-flight, has repeatedly been a way of describing how the club's ambitions may not be in tune with the dreams of the supporters.
Back then — and more often than not in the five decades since — it has referred to the sale of the Bluebirds better players. It's a struggle to think of when it could be used to sum up a situation with a manager.
And yet this is where it all seems to be heading with Cardiff City and Neil Warnock at present, with the potential modern-day Toshack tale mentioned on a radio phone-in following this latest win — the 11th from 22 Championship games under the manager in question.
Because Cardiff fans have had a taste of the Warnock effect and, certainly not after this biggest win in seven years, cannot fathom a scenario where it shouldn't carry onto into the new campaign. The hope is that there is no Toshack crossroads to come.
All the noises are the right ones at present. Warnock has quietly, respectfully, set out his agenda for some time now, about how he wants to know he will get enough money to have a go at that eighth promotion he has mentioned enough times even players can cite it.
That said, he stressed in the build up to this game that he felt refreshed and he could see himself staying in situ for a few seasons so much is he enjoying life as a Bluebird.
Chairman Mehmet Dalman, before Saturday's game, said he expects the 68-year-old to be in South Wales next season, although his confidence came with the caveat of the work that must be done to provide the financial platform at a time where the last of the Premier League parachute money is dwindling, forcing the club to come up with other avenues of revenue to support spending.
But just as the win offered another hopeful glimpse of an united future with Warnock at the helm, so too did the beaten opponents remind that Warnock would not be afraid to walk away if he does not feel it's right.
Warnock also loved being at Rotherham as he led them away from relegation last year despite being six points from safety when he started with 16 games to go. Yet talks over a new deal broke down.
It was all cordial — hence why Warnock showed plenty of sympathy as his side dished out this beating that hammered another nail in Yorkshire side's Championship coffin — but, with a new contract on the table, he said he “did not have the time” to wait for the Millers to put some of their investment into a new training ground at the expense of first-team funding.
He said back then that watching the play-offs at the end of last season reminded him “that's what I want” and yet – though his Cardiff are closer to the top-six than the bottom three – he still insisted this weekend that “not in a million years” were the Bluebirds going to trouble those promotion places in the final standings.
Which all points towards next season. On the face of it Warnock is not holding the club to ransom, though what his private demands may be, only he and the club's decision-makers can say for sure.
Yet he has talked about around a kitty of £6m, around three or four players, things the fans currently blown away by this Bluebirds revival see as straight forward.
On stepping down from Rotherham, he talked of not needing big bucks to achieve promotion, but key elements of team spirit, camaraderie, getting in characters, getting fans behind you home and away, all of which is fast becoming evident in this current team. A team, it should be pointed out, currently has a better win percentage of any the sides Warnock has managed at 50 per cent.
He admitted you need ability, but he is bringing that out of players he has inherited. Kadeem Harris and Craig Noone are two examples of resurgent players as they got themselves on the scoresheet here with superb finishes.
Another goalscorer, Junior Hoilett, has underlined his eye for a bargain, as has Sol Bamba who contributed to a third clean sheet in five games.
There is Kenneth Zohore, a striker Warnock was ready to show the door before giving into instinct and giving a chance.
“When he listens to what I say, he’s a threat. I think he’s getting better and I think he can get better with a pre-season because with me, he doesn’t get away with anything,” Warnock said of the two goal striker who made it four in five games with his Rotherham brace. “He’s got to do it and he knows that. He’s responded well and he’s working really hard.”
They all are, perhaps none more so than Aron Gunnarsson who is the beating heart of the born-again Bluebirds that gave a poor Millers midfield no respite.
There is an element of momentum, there will be defeats to come and there are limitations to this side – and there will certainly be tougher tests than a selection hit but a seemingly doomed Rotherham as weak as any side to come to Cardiff City Stadium.
“We could keep on winning – or we could lose the next seven and be in relegation trouble,” insisted Warnock on those play-off chances, still adamant he wants 50 points on board before any pats on his back.
But the way the team have found belief, purpose and connected with a supporter base has got people excited. Specifically, it has got them excited about the future.
It is not that he is reinventing the wheel. It is not football from the gods at times – Zohore's first was route one carried out well – but there is organisation, it is understanding, it is tactics that have broken down both teams above them in the table and below. It is certainly man-management and motivation, Warnock having that innate ability to criticise players but still feed them confidence as if he has added it to the drinks bottles.
Take Noone as a case in point: informed he was poor three weeks ago, challenged to do more, told 'Welcome back' when he responded in training, three impressive performances and two goals following.
With only three of the 14 players involved in the win that took Cardiff to 45 points, no wonder fans cannot fathom a situation where Warnock will not be retained.
They see the statistics – like the one that showed Rotherham two points below Cardiff when he arrived and now the Bluebirds 28 above them – and can't help but wonder 'what if' he had arrived earlier. Warnock's response, for the record, is Cardiff would have only wanted him when they were struggling.
But now Cardiff are not struggling, they are reborn as a team and feeling close to doing so as a club.
The need to be financially careful is something Cardiff as a club shouldn't be criticised for.
But it does feel as though that the fans sense something is really happening under Warnock and that all that can be done should be done to ensure it continues.
The right noises are all there to avoid another Toshack. The noise of 15,000 at Cardiff City Stadium on Saturday reminded why you hope that is the case.
The right noises are all there to avoid another Toshack. The noise of 15,000 at Cardiff City Stadium on Saturday reminded why you hope that the Cardiff City board back Neil Warnock.
By Chris Wathan
Monday 20th February 2017
There's been plenty of times down the years that Cardiff City's decision to sell John Toshack has been brought up, almost akin to a footballing parable.
The 1970 move of the local-lad-turned-great-striker to Liverpool, just when the side were threatening promotion to the top-flight, has repeatedly been a way of describing how the club's ambitions may not be in tune with the dreams of the supporters.
Back then — and more often than not in the five decades since — it has referred to the sale of the Bluebirds better players. It's a struggle to think of when it could be used to sum up a situation with a manager.
And yet this is where it all seems to be heading with Cardiff City and Neil Warnock at present, with the potential modern-day Toshack tale mentioned on a radio phone-in following this latest win — the 11th from 22 Championship games under the manager in question.
Because Cardiff fans have had a taste of the Warnock effect and, certainly not after this biggest win in seven years, cannot fathom a scenario where it shouldn't carry onto into the new campaign. The hope is that there is no Toshack crossroads to come.
All the noises are the right ones at present. Warnock has quietly, respectfully, set out his agenda for some time now, about how he wants to know he will get enough money to have a go at that eighth promotion he has mentioned enough times even players can cite it.
That said, he stressed in the build up to this game that he felt refreshed and he could see himself staying in situ for a few seasons so much is he enjoying life as a Bluebird.
Chairman Mehmet Dalman, before Saturday's game, said he expects the 68-year-old to be in South Wales next season, although his confidence came with the caveat of the work that must be done to provide the financial platform at a time where the last of the Premier League parachute money is dwindling, forcing the club to come up with other avenues of revenue to support spending.
But just as the win offered another hopeful glimpse of an united future with Warnock at the helm, so too did the beaten opponents remind that Warnock would not be afraid to walk away if he does not feel it's right.
Warnock also loved being at Rotherham as he led them away from relegation last year despite being six points from safety when he started with 16 games to go. Yet talks over a new deal broke down.
It was all cordial — hence why Warnock showed plenty of sympathy as his side dished out this beating that hammered another nail in Yorkshire side's Championship coffin — but, with a new contract on the table, he said he “did not have the time” to wait for the Millers to put some of their investment into a new training ground at the expense of first-team funding.
He said back then that watching the play-offs at the end of last season reminded him “that's what I want” and yet – though his Cardiff are closer to the top-six than the bottom three – he still insisted this weekend that “not in a million years” were the Bluebirds going to trouble those promotion places in the final standings.
Which all points towards next season. On the face of it Warnock is not holding the club to ransom, though what his private demands may be, only he and the club's decision-makers can say for sure.
Yet he has talked about around a kitty of £6m, around three or four players, things the fans currently blown away by this Bluebirds revival see as straight forward.
On stepping down from Rotherham, he talked of not needing big bucks to achieve promotion, but key elements of team spirit, camaraderie, getting in characters, getting fans behind you home and away, all of which is fast becoming evident in this current team. A team, it should be pointed out, currently has a better win percentage of any the sides Warnock has managed at 50 per cent.
He admitted you need ability, but he is bringing that out of players he has inherited. Kadeem Harris and Craig Noone are two examples of resurgent players as they got themselves on the scoresheet here with superb finishes.
Another goalscorer, Junior Hoilett, has underlined his eye for a bargain, as has Sol Bamba who contributed to a third clean sheet in five games.
There is Kenneth Zohore, a striker Warnock was ready to show the door before giving into instinct and giving a chance.
“When he listens to what I say, he’s a threat. I think he’s getting better and I think he can get better with a pre-season because with me, he doesn’t get away with anything,” Warnock said of the two goal striker who made it four in five games with his Rotherham brace. “He’s got to do it and he knows that. He’s responded well and he’s working really hard.”
They all are, perhaps none more so than Aron Gunnarsson who is the beating heart of the born-again Bluebirds that gave a poor Millers midfield no respite.
There is an element of momentum, there will be defeats to come and there are limitations to this side – and there will certainly be tougher tests than a selection hit but a seemingly doomed Rotherham as weak as any side to come to Cardiff City Stadium.
“We could keep on winning – or we could lose the next seven and be in relegation trouble,” insisted Warnock on those play-off chances, still adamant he wants 50 points on board before any pats on his back.
But the way the team have found belief, purpose and connected with a supporter base has got people excited. Specifically, it has got them excited about the future.
It is not that he is reinventing the wheel. It is not football from the gods at times – Zohore's first was route one carried out well – but there is organisation, it is understanding, it is tactics that have broken down both teams above them in the table and below. It is certainly man-management and motivation, Warnock having that innate ability to criticise players but still feed them confidence as if he has added it to the drinks bottles.
Take Noone as a case in point: informed he was poor three weeks ago, challenged to do more, told 'Welcome back' when he responded in training, three impressive performances and two goals following.
With only three of the 14 players involved in the win that took Cardiff to 45 points, no wonder fans cannot fathom a situation where Warnock will not be retained.
They see the statistics – like the one that showed Rotherham two points below Cardiff when he arrived and now the Bluebirds 28 above them – and can't help but wonder 'what if' he had arrived earlier. Warnock's response, for the record, is Cardiff would have only wanted him when they were struggling.
But now Cardiff are not struggling, they are reborn as a team and feeling close to doing so as a club.
The need to be financially careful is something Cardiff as a club shouldn't be criticised for.
But it does feel as though that the fans sense something is really happening under Warnock and that all that can be done should be done to ensure it continues.
The right noises are all there to avoid another Toshack. The noise of 15,000 at Cardiff City Stadium on Saturday reminded why you hope that is the case.
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Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK TO HOLD MEETING TALKS TODAY '
Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:33 am
Three wins on the bounce including the biggest in about five years puts Neil in a strong position.i think something will be worked out.
Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK TO HOLD MEETING TALKS TODAY '
Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:48 am
We must be close to the time when the club will put ST on sale for the 2017-18 season. What better way to get back the missing 1000's than to announce NW has committed to the club and that the club has committed to back him.
A massive few months coming up and if the club can get the NW situation sorted out, the price of season tickets right and maybe a few free ticket offers like last season who knows we may get close to 20k ST for next year. That alone could bring in half of the £6m NW has asked for.
Saturday showed the board a level of togetherness between Manager, Team and Fans that we haven't seen in years it will be a crime if the club fail to take this opportunity. As bad as when in 1978 the then Board turned their back on the chance of having John Toshack as player manager.
A massive few months coming up and if the club can get the NW situation sorted out, the price of season tickets right and maybe a few free ticket offers like last season who knows we may get close to 20k ST for next year. That alone could bring in half of the £6m NW has asked for.
Saturday showed the board a level of togetherness between Manager, Team and Fans that we haven't seen in years it will be a crime if the club fail to take this opportunity. As bad as when in 1978 the then Board turned their back on the chance of having John Toshack as player manager.
Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK TO HOLD MEETING TALKS TODAY '
Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:11 am
It should be a " no brainer " as they say. But this Cardiff City who are perfectly capable of " snatching absolute despair from the jaws of such absolute optimism "
We surely have to do the right thing here.
We surely have to do the right thing here.
Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK TO HOLD MEETING TALKS TODAY '
Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:13 am
castleblue wrote:We must be close to the time when the club will put ST on sale for the 2017-18 season. What better way to get back the missing 1000's than to announce NW has committed to the club and that the club has committed to back him.
A massive few months coming up and if the club can get the NW situation sorted out, the price of season tickets right and maybe a few free ticket offers like last season who knows we may get close to 20k ST for next year. That alone could bring in half of the £6m NW has asked for.
Saturday showed the board a level of togetherness between Manager, Team and Fans that we haven't seen in years it will be a crime if the club fail to take this opportunity. As bad as when in 1978 the then Board turned their back on the chance of having John Toshack as player manager.
I totally agree, and anything less on our clubs part I feel could have, long term & disastrous consequences, on & off the pitch.
The club has a great opportunity to really move on wards & upwards now, & longer term, & I hope this opportunity is truly seized & embraced!
Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK TO HOLD MEETING TALKS TODAY '
Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:18 am
Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK TO HOLD MEETING TALKS TODAY '
Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:26 pm
Hopefully we get on light on the situation, but I predict... more uncertainty...
Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK TO HOLD MEETING TALKS TODAY '
Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:10 pm
Got a feeling that Neil will use his charm and get his way.
His CV is second to none in this division.
His CV is second to none in this division.
Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK TO HOLD MEETING TALKS TODAY '
Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:16 pm
This is Cardiff city we are talking about rarely do they see what's obvious to most people
Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK TO HOLD MEETING TALKS TODAY '
Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:51 pm
GENERAL CHAT wrote:Got a feeling that Neil will use his charm and get his way.
His CV is second to none in this division.
I'm afraid that facts and figures may come in the way of persuasion
Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK TO HOLD MEETING TALKS TODAY '
Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:53 pm
Fingers crossed he stays on