Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:54 pm
Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:05 pm
lyndipops wrote:I went to the doctors and was diagnosed with IBS. The doctor told me to take loperimide every day which would "fix" the problem but does it????
If you went to a mechanic because your engine management light was on and paid say £500 to fix it would you be happy with this.
You- So have you fixed the car.
Mechanic- Yes its all fixed now.
You-So what did you do to fix it?
Mechanic- I removed the engine management bulb so that now you cannot tell that there is an issue.
This is what is going on in the NHS every day! Doctors are paid by big Pharma companies to dish out drugs. Why do they want to see you well? If somebody is overweight and smokes and drinks heavy is a doctor going to advise them to cut back or stop? They might do but in many cases do not. Is there an incentive for doctors to make you well?
If they make you well they will be giving you less drugs, therfore their profits will receed! Ask yourself this, do they have anything to gain by making you live healthy? Sure you see the odd incentive but are they really trying to make a difference to the general health of the public??
100 years ago 3% of men would get Cancer at some point in their life it is now 40%! Yes we live longer and Cancer develops more as we get older but this figure is way off that!
Watch this video ir at least watch from 54 minutes on.
https://youtu.be/gR8SQzCJK0Q
I am not saying that there are not people the other side being alarmist but read between the lines. We are all conditioned to believe everything that GP's tell us! Homeopathic medecine is being buried because it will cost the big Pharma a fortune! These people want you to be sick and the mire they hide your symptoms the more money they will make!!
Things like Excitotoxins as in MSG and Aspartame and also vegatable oils are laced in your daily diet and often disguised in the food labelling, they are everywhere! Do you know what these do to your body! Do some digging you might be in for a shock!
Apologies if my spellings cr@p I did not have much time to write this!
Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:06 pm
Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:16 pm
troobloo3339 wrote:lyndipops wrote:I went to the doctors and was diagnosed with IBS. The doctor told me to take loperimide every day which would "fix" the problem but does it????
If you went to a mechanic because your engine management light was on and paid say £500 to fix it would you be happy with this.
You- So have you fixed the car.
Mechanic- Yes its all fixed now.
You-So what did you do to fix it?
Mechanic- I removed the engine management bulb so that now you cannot tell that there is an issue.
This is what is going on in the NHS every day! Doctors are paid by big Pharma companies to dish out drugs. Why do they want to see you well? If somebody is overweight and smokes and drinks heavy is a doctor going to advise them to cut back or stop? They might do but in many cases do not. Is there an incentive for doctors to make you well?
If they make you well they will be giving you less drugs, therfore their profits will receed! Ask yourself this, do they have anything to gain by making you live healthy? Sure you see the odd incentive but are they really trying to make a difference to the general health of the public??
100 years ago 3% of men would get Cancer at some point in their life it is now 40%! Yes we live longer and Cancer develops more as we get older but this figure is way off that!
Watch this video ir at least watch from 54 minutes on.
https://youtu.be/gR8SQzCJK0Q
I am not saying that there are not people the other side being alarmist but read between the lines. We are all conditioned to believe everything that GP's tell us! Homeopathic medecine is being buried because it will cost the big Pharma a fortune! These people want you to be sick and the mire they hide your symptoms the more money they will make!!
Things like Excitotoxins as in MSG and Aspartame and also vegatable oils are laced in your daily diet and often disguised in the food labelling, they are everywhere! Do you know what these do to your body! Do some digging you might be in for a shock!
Apologies if my spellings cr@p I did not have much time to write this!
Sorry but personally I have more faith in my g p than you have in yours
I've had 2 heart surgeries and I'm diabetic ,my doctor has seen me every 2 months for over 16 years ,he worked with me over this time to get my meds right, I had very high colestral and now it's around 3.4 ,my diabetes is under control and now border line ,my blood pressure is normal and stable ,my heart rate is normal and stable ,without him getting my meds right over the years ,this would not be possible ,and I might not even be here ,so I'm not sure about what your saying,
Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:22 pm
Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:31 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Also some if what you say about meds is down to (nice) and wag who say what meds are available? so gps sometimes have hands tied, I deal with cancer patients weekly and level of treatment is unbelievable and it's not always about medication !!
Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:42 pm
lyndipops wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Also some if what you say about meds is down to (nice) and wag who say what meds are available? so gps sometimes have hands tied, I deal with cancer patients weekly and level of treatment is unbelievable and it's not always about medication !!
I can only quote what it says in the video which I think is that Chemo is only about 2.5% effective and can cause more Cancer! 40% of people who get Cancer die of malnutrition but it is never adressed! They say there are many cures and preventative measures that are ignored and strongly hint at big Pharma being involved in this!
I do not know for sure if this is all true but if it is its a shocker!! I just thought I would put it on here to get some feedback. If somebody can completely discredit it then fine, in fact it would be a comfort!
Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:48 pm
Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:14 pm
Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:19 pm
rumpo kid wrote:All that seems to show is that a different group of people would rather your cash, than another.
Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:43 pm
Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:51 pm
Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:55 pm
The eternal optimist wrote:Haven't watched the link, but if anyone is in any doubt about the link between drug companies, doctors and dodgy decisions then read 'Bad Pharma' by Dr Ben Goldacre, it is truly scarey.
Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:15 pm
pembroke allan wrote:The eternal optimist wrote:Haven't watched the link, but if anyone is in any doubt about the link between drug companies, doctors and dodgy decisions then read 'Bad Pharma' by Dr Ben Goldacre, it is truly scarey.
2 things! it's not in drug companies interests to find cure as they will lose mega bucks in revenue? And the Dr's looking for cures only go so far then go onto something else so keeping their funding in place year after year? How many cures have been triumphed that'll be available in so many years time but mysteriously never do?? It's all about money !!
Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:26 pm
Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:37 pm
Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:52 pm
Bluebird1977 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:The eternal optimist wrote:Haven't watched the link, but if anyone is in any doubt about the link between drug companies, doctors and dodgy decisions then read 'Bad Pharma' by Dr Ben Goldacre, it is truly scarey.
2 things! it's not in drug companies interests to find cure as they will lose mega bucks in revenue? And the Dr's looking for cures only go so far then go onto something else so keeping their funding in place year after year? How many cures have been triumphed that'll be available in so many years time but mysteriously never do?? It's all about money !!
I rarely agree with you but .....Here f*cking here allan.
There's trillions spread from the please give charities to the drug company's taking to try stop cancer,
Imagine the population should they cure cancer with one tablet, there wouldn't be room to swing a cat on land so whiles there's to much Wonga involved the cure will be brushed under the carpet sadly. I believe there is a cure for cancer out there but its all kept under wraps for obvious reasons.
Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:46 pm
Bluebird1977 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:The eternal optimist wrote:Haven't watched the link, but if anyone is in any doubt about the link between drug companies, doctors and dodgy decisions then read 'Bad Pharma' by Dr Ben Goldacre, it is truly scarey.
2 things! it's not in drug companies interests to find cure as they will lose mega bucks in revenue? And the Dr's looking for cures only go so far then go onto something else so keeping their funding in place year after year? How many cures have been triumphed that'll be available in so many years time but mysteriously never do?? It's all about money !!
I rarely agree with you but .....Here f*cking here allan.
There's trillions spread from the please give charities to the drug company's taking to try stop cancer,
Imagine the population should they cure cancer with one tablet, there wouldn't be room to swing a cat on land so whiles there's to much Wonga involved the cure will be brushed under the carpet sadly. I believe there is a cure for cancer out there but its all kept under wraps for obvious reasons.
Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:55 pm
lyndipops wrote:I went to the doctors and was diagnosed with IBS. The doctor told me to take loperimide every day which would "fix" the problem but does it????
If you went to a mechanic because your engine management light was on and paid say £500 to fix it would you be happy with this.
You- So have you fixed the car.
Mechanic- Yes its all fixed now.
You-So what did you do to fix it?
Mechanic- I removed the engine management bulb so that now you cannot tell that there is an issue.
This is what is going on in the NHS every day! Doctors are paid by big Pharma companies to dish out drugs. Why do they want to see you well? If somebody is overweight and smokes and drinks heavy is a doctor going to advise them to cut back or stop? They might do but in many cases do not. Is there an incentive for doctors to make you well?
If they make you well they will be giving you less drugs, therfore their profits will receed! Ask yourself this, do they have anything to gain by making you live healthy? Sure you see the odd incentive but are they really trying to make a difference to the general health of the public??
100 years ago 3% of men would get Cancer at some point in their life it is now 40%! Yes we live longer and Cancer develops more as we get older but this figure is way off that!
Watch this video ir at least watch from 54 minutes on.
https://youtu.be/gR8SQzCJK0Q
I am not saying that there are not people the other side being alarmist but read between the lines. We are all conditioned to believe everything that GP's tell us! Homeopathic medecine is being buried because it will cost the big Pharma a fortune! These people want you to be sick and the mire they hide your symptoms the more money they will make!!
Things like Excitotoxins as in MSG and Aspartame and also vegatable oils are laced in your daily diet and often disguised in the food labelling, they are everywhere! Do you know what these do to your body! Do some digging you might be in for a shock!
Apologies if my spellings cr@p I did not have much time to write this!
Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:41 pm
Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:51 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:I do believe that with so much money made by the Pharmaceutical companies that a lot of cures are being held back. One sure money maker is diabetes, how much money would they loose if a cure was found ? The same with many Neurological diseases.
My Wife's treatment for MS each year costs the NHS many many many thousands. I wonder what the true costs of making these Disease modifying drugs really cost ?
Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:56 pm
pembroke allan wrote:The eternal optimist wrote:Haven't watched the link, but if anyone is in any doubt about the link between drug companies, doctors and dodgy decisions then read 'Bad Pharma' by Dr Ben Goldacre, it is truly scarey.
2 things! it's not in drug companies interests to find cure as they will lose mega bucks in revenue? And the Dr's looking for cures only go so far then go onto something else so keeping their funding in place year after year? How many cures have been triumphed that'll be available in so many years time but mysteriously never do?? It's all about money !!
Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:00 am
Sneggyblubird wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:I do believe that with so much money made by the Pharmaceutical companies that a lot of cures are being held back. One sure money maker is diabetes, how much money would they loose if a cure was found ? The same with many Neurological diseases.
My Wife's treatment for MS each year costs the NHS many many many thousands. I wonder what the true costs of making these Disease modifying drugs really cost ?
I've often wondered why the government has never nationalised pharmaceutical companies,it would surely be more cost effective in the long run.
Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:26 am
Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:01 am
Hopski wrote:lyndipops wrote:I went to the doctors and was diagnosed with IBS. The doctor told me to take loperimide every day which would "fix" the problem but does it????
If you went to a mechanic because your engine management light was on and paid say £500 to fix it would you be happy with this.
You- So have you fixed the car.
Mechanic- Yes its all fixed now.
You-So what did you do to fix it?
Mechanic- I removed the engine management bulb so that now you cannot tell that there is an issue.
This is what is going on in the NHS every day! Doctors are paid by big Pharma companies to dish out drugs. Why do they want to see you well? If somebody is overweight and smokes and drinks heavy is a doctor going to advise them to cut back or stop? They might do but in many cases do not. Is there an incentive for doctors to make you well?
If they make you well they will be giving you less drugs, therfore their profits will receed! Ask yourself this, do they have anything to gain by making you live healthy? Sure you see the odd incentive but are they really trying to make a difference to the general health of the public??
100 years ago 3% of men would get Cancer at some point in their life it is now 40%! Yes we live longer and Cancer develops more as we get older but this figure is way off that!
Watch this video ir at least watch from 54 minutes on.
https://youtu.be/gR8SQzCJK0Q
I am not saying that there are not people the other side being alarmist but read between the lines. We are all conditioned to believe everything that GP's tell us! Homeopathic medecine is being buried because it will cost the big Pharma a fortune! These people want you to be sick and the mire they hide your symptoms the more money they will make!!
Things like Excitotoxins as in MSG and Aspartame and also vegatable oils are laced in your daily diet and often disguised in the food labelling, they are everywhere! Do you know what these do to your body! Do some digging you might be in for a shock!
Apologies if my spellings cr@p I did not have much time to write this!
It's only your opinion.
My opinion is my GP did test after test until the cause of my ailment was found and it was cancer. I owe my life to me GP and believe what she says.
Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:42 am
Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:55 am
Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:21 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Pops give you 10 out 10 for effort with last post! but seriously all types food have downside or hidden information, I've lived a very unhealthy lifestyle in regards to food due to medical problems I would have expected some sort of issue by my 60th birthday but guess I'm one of lucky ones like say it's a lot to do with individual or luck that people don't get cancer ect. Poor Roy castle never smoked but got lung cancer while smoker doesn't !!! that's life
Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:44 pm
lyndipops wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Pops give you 10 out 10 for effort with last post! but seriously all types food have downside or hidden information, I've lived a very unhealthy lifestyle in regards to food due to medical problems I would have expected some sort of issue by my 60th birthday but guess I'm one of lucky ones like say it's a lot to do with individual or luck that people don't get cancer ect. Poor Roy castle never smoked but got lung cancer while smoker doesn't !!! that's life
While I agree with you that luck has got alot to do with it I also believe to a very large and underated extent that you make your own luck!
You can either do things in moderation and live a healthy life being mindful of what is bad for you or think sod it and do many things that are bad for you and worry about the consequences when it happens.
Being reasonably healthy does not require ridiculous amounts of work once you get the hang of it. Its mainly just a case of developing your understanding a bit.If you imagine your health is a bit like your bank account, if you keep making withdrawals and don't pay anything in you could end up living on borrowed time. I do not subscribe to this its the luck of the draw stuff.
People very often use statistic's like a drunk uses a landpost, for support rather than illumination. Unfortunately even worse some people do not even stretch to that! Some say "well so and so lived to 100 and he smoked!" thats not even a statistic thats an individual!
Surely some people are going to get lucky that is life the same as some people are going to be unlucky. The thing is if you keep crossing a road with a blindfold on one day you are likely to get hit!
As an analogy.
If you imagine two gamblers.
One sell's his house and puts most of his money on Cardiff City to be promoted in a season, he then spends the whole season skint and wondering if his investment will pay off.
The other puts a few quid on Cardiff through the season trying to make sure he can afford it and betting on the odd game and enjoys it, he relaxes and enjoys the season and has plenty of money in the bank.
I am no saint and do the odd thing that is bad for me which I enjoy but I like to balance it off with a few things that are good for me which I enjoy. Thats a win win in my book. Dont get me wrong who knows I could have a heart attack tommorow but I am not going to force it on myself.
You might see 100 mate and I hope you do, you could well outlive me, but most importantly I hope you are happy! Its not just the years in your life its the life in your years!
Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:30 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Pops give you 10 out 10 for effort with last post! but seriously all types food have downside or hidden information, I've lived a very unhealthy lifestyle in regards to food due to medical problems I would have expected some sort of issue by my 60th birthday but guess I'm one of lucky ones like say it's a lot to do with individual or luck that people don't get cancer ect. Poor Roy castle never smoked but got lung cancer while smoker doesn't !!! that's life