Swansea North Bank Alliance

Jack's slagged us out while our kit was changed from red to blue, yet carry on doing nothing while the Yanks systematically take their club apart.

Apparently this North Bank Alliance was going to take on the Yanks but could only muster 2 members from Carmarthen. Nice business cards though. That'll scare the Yanks no doubts.

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Bit different though let's be fair. The new American owners have not actually done anything wrong as of yet. It is the previous owners that screwed the fans over.

Bit different though let's be fair. The new American owners have not actually done anything wrong as of yet. It is the previous owners that screwed the fans over.

Just glad it's happened Roathie...

Bit different though let's be fair. The new American owners have not actually done anything wrong as of yet. It is the previous owners that screwed the fans over.

Sacked a highly rated manager who kept them up previous season.

Brought in Bob Bradley.

Ignored the Trust who own a 24% stake in the club.

Sold some key players.

Have invested diddly squat.

But hey they've done nothing wrong.

Bit different though let's be fair. The new American owners have not actually done anything wrong as of yet. It is the previous owners that screwed the fans over.

so the new American owners have done nothing wrong. but the previous owners are now public enemy number 1 for selling to these havent done anything wrong guys.
truth is your all angry because your shit.cant be seen to be saying that so rebrand your protests on a weekly basis.

Bit different though let's be fair. The new American owners have not actually done anything wrong as of yet. It is the previous owners that screwed the fans over.

Both are fantastic and doing a great job, let's hope they carry on for the next four seasons and take them out of the football league

Bit different though let's be fair. The new American owners have not actually done anything wrong as of yet. It is the previous owners that screwed the fans over.

Both are fantastic and doing a great job, let's hope they carry on for the next four seasons and take them out of the football league

Spot on

Bit different though let's be fair. The new American owners have not actually done anything wrong as of yet. It is the previous owners that screwed the fans over.

Sacked a highly rated manager who kept them up previous season.

Brought in Bob Bradley.

Ignored the Trust who own a 24% stake in the club.

Sold some key players.

Have invested diddly squat.

But hey they've done nothing wrong.

Swansea have sold key players most seasons, they also sacked highly rated managers and to a certain extent ignored the trust. Nothing new is happening now that wasnt before hand, in fact according to the Trust, they have more of a voice now than they ever had.

Bit different though let's be fair. The new American owners have not actually done anything wrong as of yet. It is the previous owners that screwed the fans over.

so the new American owners have done nothing wrong. but the previous owners are now public enemy number 1 for selling to these havent done anything wrong guys.
truth is your all angry because your shit.cant be seen to be saying that so rebrand your protests on a weekly basis.

The old owners are public enemy number 1 due to the way they went about selling the club, not that they sold it or infact whom they sold it to. The latter is yet to be determined.

Bit different though let's be fair. The new American owners have not actually done anything wrong as of yet. It is the previous owners that screwed the fans over.

Sacked a highly rated manager who kept them up previous season.

Brought in Bob Bradley.

Ignored the Trust who own a 24% stake in the club.

Sold some key players.

Have invested diddly squat.

But hey they've done nothing wrong.

Swansea have sold key players most seasons, they also sacked highly rated managers and to a certain extent ignored the trust. Nothing new is happening now that wasnt before hand, in fact according to the Trust, they have more of a voice now than they ever had.

And after selling and sacking too much due to arrogance the wheels are finally falling off.

And after selling and sacking too much due to arrogance the wheels are finally falling off.

I don't think there any any wheels falling off. Every club barring the top 7/8 clubs in England go through transitional periods now and again and every club in the Prem sacks managers and is a selling club, only Real and Madrid can keep their players and not be attracted elsewhere. That is just football.

And after selling and sacking too much due to arrogance the wheels are finally falling off.

I don't think there any any wheels falling off. Every club barring the top 7/8 clubs in England go through transitional periods now and again and every club in the Prem sacks managers and is a selling club, only Real and Madrid can keep their players and not be attracted elsewhere. That is just football.

I take a balanced view when it comes to Swansea but to say the wheels are not coming off I cant agree with.

Your current situation is a little bit more than 'transition' dont you think?

I did think you had a chance of staying up if you could nick a few points in this tough run you have at the minute as you have some winnable games coming up after that and not a bad run in at the end.

The appointment of Clement baffled me mind? I just cant see how he got the job, I dont see how hes what you needed? I would have gone all out for Pardew, experienced and been there and done it, I think you have blown any chance you had of staying up with his appoiment, whats your thoughts?

Bit different though let's be fair. The new American owners have not actually done anything wrong as of yet. It is the previous owners that screwed the fans over.

Sacked a highly rated manager who kept them up previous season.

Brought in Bob Bradley.

Ignored the Trust who own a 24% stake in the club.

Sold some key players.

Have invested diddly squat.

But hey they've done nothing wrong.

Swansea have sold key players most seasons, they also sacked highly rated managers and to a certain extent ignored the trust. Nothing new is happening now that wasnt before hand, in fact according to the Trust, they have more of a voice now than they ever had.

Strange then that one of the stickies on planet swamp is the fans demanding the Trust speak up now.

Strange that 99% of posts are slagging out the new owners.

But hey you keep painting this picture of all is fine in typical Roathie style.

And after selling and sacking too much due to arrogance the wheels are finally falling off.

I don't think there any any wheels falling off. Every club barring the top 7/8 clubs in England go through transitional periods now and again and every club in the Prem sacks managers and is a selling club, only Real and Madrid can keep their players and not be attracted elsewhere. That is just football.

I take a balanced view when it comes to Swansea but to say the wheels are not coming off I cant agree with.

Your current situation is a little bit more than 'transition' dont you think?

I did think you had a chance of staying up if you could nick a few points in this tough run you have at the minute as you have some winnable games coming up after that and not a bad run in at the end.

The appointment of Clement baffled me mind? I just cant see how he got the job, I dont see how hes what you needed? I would have gone all out for Pardew, experienced and been there and done it, I think you have blown any chance you had of staying up with his appoiment, whats your thoughts?

No, it is a bona fide transitional period. 15 years of ownership has changed, it was never going to be a smooth ride and anyone who thought it was is a fool. To say the wheels are coming off would suggest an impending total collapse. Relegation happens to most clubs (nearly all). But the infrastructure is now there to continue pushing forward once the transitional period has settled. The academy is in place, the U-23 team is one of the best in the country, no debt and a decent basis of a Championship squad. I don't get sucked into this hyperbole, although appreciate it may feel fun to participate. It's just not realistic. As for Clement, Swansea have been long time admirers. He is seen as a ling term option and not a quick fix to keep them up. A smart long term move and feels far more stable than someone like a Pardew or a Redknapp.

Bit different though let's be fair. The new American owners have not actually done anything wrong as of yet. It is the previous owners that screwed the fans over.

Sacked a highly rated manager who kept them up previous season.

Brought in Bob Bradley.

Ignored the Trust who own a 24% stake in the club.

Sold some key players.

Have invested diddly squat.

But hey they've done nothing wrong.

Swansea have sold key players most seasons, they also sacked highly rated managers and to a certain extent ignored the trust. Nothing new is happening now that wasnt before hand, in fact according to the Trust, they have more of a voice now than they ever had.

Strange then that one of the stickies on planet swamp is the fans demanding the Trust speak up now.

Strange that 99% of posts are slagging out the new owners.

But hey you keep painting this picture of all is fine in typical Roathie style.

ONE of the stickies you say? The clue may be in the sentence there mate

Needless to say I also disagree with your %. I would say 99% of fans are not happy with the ownership change, but that is more of a fact that there is a lot of uncertainty and unknowns rather than the Americans themselves. As I have highlighted, they haven't actually done anything wrong as of yet.

Bit different though let's be fair. The new American owners have not actually done anything wrong as of yet. It is the previous owners that screwed the fans over.

Sacked a highly rated manager who kept them up previous season.

Brought in Bob Bradley.

Ignored the Trust who own a 24% stake in the club.

Sold some key players.

Have invested diddly squat.

But hey they've done nothing wrong.

Swansea have sold key players most seasons, they also sacked highly rated managers and to a certain extent ignored the trust. Nothing new is happening now that wasnt before hand, in fact according to the Trust, they have more of a voice now than they ever had.

Strange then that one of the stickies on planet swamp is the fans demanding the Trust speak up now.

Strange that 99% of posts are slagging out the new owners.

But hey you keep painting this picture of all is fine in typical Roathie style.

ONE of the stickies you say? The clue may be in the sentence there mate

Needless to say I also disagree with your %. I would say 99% of fans are not happy with the ownership change, but that is more of a fact that there is a lot of uncertainty and unknowns rather than the Americans themselves. As I have highlighted, they haven't actually done anything wrong as of yet.

Narcissistic Personality Disorder, look it up and seek urgent help!!!

It's called being sensible. Maybe look up hyperbolic desire disorder.

And after selling and sacking too much due to arrogance the wheels are finally falling off.

I don't think there any any wheels falling off. Every club barring the top 7/8 clubs in England go through transitional periods now and again and every club in the Prem sacks managers and is a selling club, only Real and Madrid can keep their players and not be attracted elsewhere. That is just football.

I take a balanced view when it comes to Swansea but to say the wheels are not coming off I cant agree with.

Your current situation is a little bit more than 'transition' dont you think?

I did think you had a chance of staying up if you could nick a few points in this tough run you have at the minute as you have some winnable games coming up after that and not a bad run in at the end.

The appointment of Clement baffled me mind? I just cant see how he got the job, I dont see how hes what you needed? I would have gone all out for Pardew, experienced and been there and done it, I think you have blown any chance you had of staying up with his appoiment, whats your thoughts?

No, it is a bona fide transitional period. 15 years of ownership has changed, it was never going to be a smooth ride and anyone who thought it was is a fool. To say the wheels are coming off would suggest an impending total collapse. Relegation happens to most clubs (nearly all). But the infrastructure is now there to continue pushing forward once the transitional period has settled. The academy is in place, the U-23 team is one of the best in the country, no debt and a decent basis of a Championship squad. I don't get sucked into this hyperbole, although appreciate it may feel fun to participate. It's just not realistic. As for Clement, Swansea have been long time admirers. He is seen as a ling term option and not a quick fix to keep them up. A smart long term move and feels far more stable than someone like a Pardew or a Redknapp.

Not exactly.

If you look up the meaning of the term 'The wheels are starting to come off' it is usually used in journalism and is used to describe something that is starting to fail/go wrong, especially after a period of success. It doesn't mean 'on the verge of total collapse', and theres you saying you don't do hyperbole

That is an absolute perfect description of what is happening at Swansea at the moment, is it not?

You maybe going through a transitional period in terms of ownership but not as a Club. You have the same Chairman and infrastructure as you point out yourself.

4 Managers in under 3 years and the selling of your best players without replacing them is not 'Transition' its abject failure.

As for the rest, well its all subjective and time will tell on Clement.

Not exactly.

If you look up the meaning of the term 'The wheels are starting to come off' it is usually used in journalism and is used to describe something that is starting to fail/go wrong, especially after a period of success. It doesn't mean 'on the verge of total collapse', and theres you saying you don't do hyperbole

That is an absolute perfect description of what is happening at Swansea at the moment, is it not?

You maybe going through a transitional period in terms of ownership but not as a Club. You have the same Chairman and infrastructure as you point out yourself.

4 Managers in under 3 years and the selling of your best players without replacing them is not 'Transition' its abject failure.

As for the rest, well its all subjective and time will tell on Clement.

Pretty damn exactly in my view. For a club to fail then surely that would mean total collapse of whatever target/plan they have? As I outlined in my last reply, every single team barring the big boys get relegated, they all sack managers and they all go through transitional periods. So how is something failing if it is just going through the normal cycle of nearly all Premier League football clubs? It is expected. So the wheels are not coming off, however 'journalists' want to use the ridiculous term, they are still not coming off.

Of course it is transition. Swansea have always sold players (as has every club) if they kept replacing with better then they would eventually end up with Messi, which is unrealistic. It could be argued that keeping players when they want to move on and as a result performance levels dipping and not getting a fee for them to reinvest into youth would be abject failure, as it fails the system and cycle. They got the best years out of Williams and sold him for massive profit, anyone thinking they would get better than Williams for £10m in todays market is deluded, so they invested in the future with Mawson.

I am afraid the hyperbole is just that.

Not exactly.

If you look up the meaning of the term 'The wheels are starting to come off' it is usually used in journalism and is used to describe something that is starting to fail/go wrong, especially after a period of success. It doesn't mean 'on the verge of total collapse', and theres you saying you don't do hyperbole

That is an absolute perfect description of what is happening at Swansea at the moment, is it not?

You maybe going through a transitional period in terms of ownership but not as a Club. You have the same Chairman and infrastructure as you point out yourself.

4 Managers in under 3 years and the selling of your best players without replacing them is not 'Transition' its abject failure.

As for the rest, well its all subjective and time will tell on Clement.

Pretty damn exactly in my view. For a club to fail then surely that would mean total collapse of whatever target/plan they have? As I outlined in my last reply, every single team barring the big boys get relegated, they all sack managers and they all go through transitional periods. So how is something failing if it is just going through the normal cycle of nearly all Premier League football clubs? It is expected. So the wheels are not coming off, however 'journalists' want to use the ridiculous term, they are still not coming off.

Of course it is transition. Swansea have always sold players (as has every club) if they kept replacing with better then they would eventually end up with Messi, which is unrealistic. It could be argued that keeping players when they want to move on and as a result performance levels dipping and not getting a fee for them to reinvest into youth would be abject failure, as it fails the system and cycle. They got the best years out of Williams and sold him for massive profit, anyone thinking they would get better than Williams for £10m in todays market is deluded, so they invested in the future with Mawson.

I am afraid the hyperbole is just that.

Again, not realy, 'Starting to fail' - 'Failed' two very different things don't you agree. The wheel's are coming off for Leicester aswell, it means they are failing (at the moment) same as you are, that doesn't mean total collapse does it when there are still 17 games left of the season to play.

The wheels are coming off is an expression, the wheels could quite easily be put back on. They were coming off for us at the start of the season, we appointed Warnock and they are now back on.

You don't seem to grasp the meaning of the expression so it's pointless debating it, just have to agree to disagree.

Again, not realy, 'Starting to fail' - 'Failed' two very different things don't you agree. The wheel's are coming off for Leicester aswell, it means they are failing (at the moment) same as you are, that doesn't mean total collapse does it when there are still 17 games left of the season to play.

The wheels are coming off is an expression, the wheels could quite easily be put back on. They were coming off for us at the start of the season, we appointed Warnock and they are now back on.

You don't seem to grasp the meaning of the expression so it's pointless debating it, just have to agree to disagree.

No certainly don't agree, not in the context we are talking. Leicester are in the latter stages of the Champions League and will not be relegated in all reality. How is that failing? Smaller teams will always struggle as they don't have the squad to cope when focus is off the league. So again, it was expected, Swansea was a case in point when they got to the latter stages of Europe.

My point it isn't total collapse even if Swansea dont win another game this season. It means they have had a bad season based on some turbulence behind the scenes, the infrastructure is there to bouce back long term, hence the signings of the likes Mawson, a long term manager in the form of Clement and investment into the U-23 side which is one of the best in the country. Football is cyclical when invested in the right areas. No wheels were coming off Cardiff either, the investment in the first team side was minimal, it was expected that Cardiff would be towards the bottom end of the Championship. Its far too short term a statement to say the wheels are coming off based on a year of bad on pitch results.

Completely understand the expression, but also aknowledge it is a ridiculous one, especially used in this context.

Give it up RV the loon will keep arguing black if youre arguing white until the cows come home.

Cuckooooo!

Give it up RV the loon will keep arguing black if youre arguing white until the cows come home.

Cuckooooo!

I will debate that something is incorrect, when it is. But don't let that get in the way of your enfatuation

Give it up RV the loon will keep arguing black if youre arguing white until the cows come home.

Cuckooooo!

I will debate that something is incorrect, when it is. But don't let that get in the way of your enfatuation

Lets debate how to spell the word 'infatuation'

You lose

Goodbye

Give it up RV the loon will keep arguing black if youre arguing white until the cows come home.

Cuckooooo!

I will debate that something is incorrect, when it is. But don't let that get in the way of your enfatuation

Lets debate how to spell the word 'infatuation'

You lose

Goodbye

Let's* I think you mean?

QED

Bye mini Pembroke Allen.

Give it up RV the loon will keep arguing black if youre arguing white until the cows come home.

Cuckooooo!

Realised that now mate, no reasoning with some people

Give it up RV the loon will keep arguing black if youre arguing white until the cows come home.

Cuckooooo!

Realised that now mate, no reasoning with some people

Your reasoning seems to be, ''If nobody agrees with me then abuse them''. Couldn't I level that at you also as you don't appear to have folded to my opinion? Have I abused you for disagreeing with me? no. Have I been rude because you hold an opposite opinion? no. Have I essentially demanded you agree with me? no. There is the difference.

You think the wheels are falling off is a short term thing, I completely disagree. I'm sure Leicester fans would too.

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The Loon is loose!!!

The Loon is loose!!!

Another panicky response to someone talking sense and not folding to abuse in order to agree with something that I do not believe to be correct.

Your not wanted, take the hint!!!