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Pep Guardiola

Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:14 pm

Getting found out big time in the big league.

Not such the footballing messiah he's made out to be.

Different kettle of fish when you're not managing the team who's squad is head and shoulders above everyonelse in the league.

A Spanish Kenny Dalglish.

Re: Pep Guardiola

Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:20 pm

polo wrote:Getting found out big time in the big league.

Not such the footballing messiah he's made out to be.

Different kettle of fish when you're not managing the team who's squad is head and shoulders above everyonelse in the league.

A Spanish Kenny Dalglish.


Just said virtually the same thing to my lad

Re: Pep Guardiola

Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:21 pm

gwentbluebirds wrote:
polo wrote:Getting found out big time in the big league.

Not such the footballing messiah he's made out to be.

Different kettle of fish when you're not managing the team who's squad is head and shoulders above everyonelse in the league.

A Spanish Kenny Dalglish.


Just said virtually the same thing to my lad



Like Kenny I don't think the fella can hack the pressure and will walk

Re: Pep Guardiola

Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:42 pm

I said this when he signed .
Barcelona at the time best team in the world , no adjustments needed just put them out and let them play.
Bayern munich at the time the most on form team in the world . Easy league to win with a great squad . Very little needed .
Man city , a squad that needs rebuilding in a very tough competitive league . Failing miserably

Hes not the manager he was made out to be even with pretty much inlimited funds .

Re: Pep Guardiola

Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:15 pm

Let's be honest about this, if any one of us took over the squads he's managed we'd probably be successful.

Re: Pep Guardiola

Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:25 pm

Not sure he is been found out but his system has, can he adapt it ? I agree with the previous comments, does he have the balls for the job. Not sure he does.

He inherited a squad designed to maximise the greatest player of a generation then went to a treble winning club who have only been outside the top two in the Bundasliga 3 times since the turn of the century winning it 10 times.

The premier league is tough, even if you are top 6, and if you are not on your "A game" you can become unstuck.

Re: Pep Guardiola

Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:41 pm

He comes across as a big sulking baby.

Re: Pep Guardiola

Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:45 pm

Looked totally disinterested to me - he may get the boot before he walks.

Re: Pep Guardiola

Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:13 pm

Premier league is not for everyone as it is not a two or 3 horse race.

Has he got the balls for it?

(probably learning mandarin in moss side tech!)

Re: Pep Guardiola

Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:22 pm

Its a different challenge than at Barca and Bayern and should be given a transfer window or two to fully put his stamp into the club but it all depends on how the board and Pep himself is committed.

Re: Pep Guardiola

Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:36 pm

salopiancity wrote:Let's be honest about this, if any one of us took over the squads he's managed we'd probably be successful.


;)

Re: Pep Guardiola

Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:24 am

I wouldn't say whether the Premier League is the best top tier league in the world or not, loads of different factors.

But it's definitely the most competitive of the top leagues.

Guardiola has managed one of the top two clubs in Spain and the top club in Germany, which are completely different challenges. How long he'll last, I'm not sure.

Jurgen Klopp and Antonio Conte seem to have adapated a lot easier.

Re: Pep Guardiola

Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:48 am

Dont understand why you are all surprised they are stuggeling. Said as much before the season started, the team need a complete overhaul, and don't have the players for guardiolas football. They need a overhaul who ever is the manager, but they can't move the ball at the tempo required at the moment. All the personal faults will tell you that, and you can see the rhythm of play suffering. Was the same for Pochetino at Tottenham, took them some time to play like he wanted.
It's the same every time with you British, you don't understand building a football team takes time.

Re: Pep Guardiola

Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:17 am

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Dont understand why you are all surprised they are stuggeling. Said as much before the season started, the team need a complete overhaul, and don't have the players for guardiolas football. They need a overhaul who ever is the manager, but they can't move the ball at the tempo required at the moment. All the personal faults will tell you that, and you can see the rhythm of play suffering. Was the same for Pochetino at Tottenham, took them some time to play like he wanted.
It's the same every time with you British, you don't understand building a football team takes time.


Poor Pep. Only given 150m to spend plus working with some world class players like Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne.

God help if he had to make do with the players he already had at his disposal like Klopp had to at Liverpool.

Re: Pep Guardiola

Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:25 am

polo wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Dont understand why you are all surprised they are stuggeling. Said as much before the season started, the team need a complete overhaul, and don't have the players for guardiolas football. They need a overhaul who ever is the manager, but they can't move the ball at the tempo required at the moment. All the personal faults will tell you that, and you can see the rhythm of play suffering. Was the same for Pochetino at Tottenham, took them some time to play like he wanted.
It's the same every time with you British, you don't understand building a football team takes time.


Poor Pep. Only given 150m to spend plus working with some world class players like Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne.

God help if he had to make do with the players he already had at his disposal like Klopp had to at Liverpool.

Not at all. But no surprise they are struggeling. Players you are listing, is top notch. But their defense is piss poor, and lack tempo on the ball, same as their current midfield, with the injuries. Doesn't take much to get them out of balance. Took time for Klopp to, didn't it? Didn't exactly hit the ground running. It is as expected.

Re: Pep Guardiola

Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:31 am

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
polo wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Dont understand why you are all surprised they are stuggeling. Said as much before the season started, the team need a complete overhaul, and don't have the players for guardiolas football. They need a overhaul who ever is the manager, but they can't move the ball at the tempo required at the moment. All the personal faults will tell you that, and you can see the rhythm of play suffering. Was the same for Pochetino at Tottenham, took them some time to play like he wanted.
It's the same every time with you British, you don't understand building a football team takes time.


Poor Pep. Only given 150m to spend plus working with some world class players like Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne.

God help if he had to make do with the players he already had at his disposal like Klopp had to at Liverpool.

Not at all. But no surprise they are struggeling. Players you are listing, is top notch. But their defense is piss poor, and lack tempo on the ball, same as their current midfield, with the injuries. Doesn't take much to get them out of balance. Took time for Klopp to, didn't it? Didn't exactly hit the ground running. It is as expected.


Klopp didnt have a pre-season and the money Pep has to spend so not exactly like for like.

Conte has hit the ground running using pretty much the squad at his disposal. Hes made Victor Moses look like Dani Alves :lol:

Pep spent 50m on John Stones so he had the money to help sort the defence.

He also bought a keeper who is clearly no good for this league and is too stubborn / arrogant to admit his mistake.

Re: Pep Guardiola

Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:42 am

polo wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
polo wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Dont understand why you are all surprised they are stuggeling. Said as much before the season started, the team need a complete overhaul, and don't have the players for guardiolas football. They need a overhaul who ever is the manager, but they can't move the ball at the tempo required at the moment. All the personal faults will tell you that, and you can see the rhythm of play suffering. Was the same for Pochetino at Tottenham, took them some time to play like he wanted.
It's the same every time with you British, you don't understand building a football team takes time.


Poor Pep. Only given 150m to spend plus working with some world class players like Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne.

God help if he had to make do with the players he already had at his disposal like Klopp had to at Liverpool.

Not at all. But no surprise they are struggeling. Players you are listing, is top notch. But their defense is piss poor, and lack tempo on the ball, same as their current midfield, with the injuries. Doesn't take much to get them out of balance. Took time for Klopp to, didn't it? Didn't exactly hit the ground running. It is as expected.


Klopp didnt have a pre-season and the money Pep has to spend so not exactly like for like.

Conte has hit the ground running using pretty much the squad at his disposal. Hes made Victor Moses look like Dani Alves :lol:

Pep spent 50m on John Stones so he had the money to help sort the defence.

He also bought a keeper who is clearly no good for this league and is too stubborn / arrogant to admit his mistake.

Agree with Stones. Rediculous money for poor quality..
I think it will be sorted next season. A lot of old slow players in the team. Conte done brilliant, but inherited
A much better team. Don't give a f**k about any of them, but it's fun to watch.

Re: Pep Guardiola

Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:30 pm

thomasblue wrote:I said this when he signed .
Barcelona at the time best team in the world , no adjustments needed just put them out and let them play.
Bayern munich at the time the most on form team in the world . Easy league to win with a great squad . Very little needed .
Man city , a squad that needs rebuilding in a very tough competitive league . Failing miserably

Hes not the manager he was made out to be even with pretty much inlimited funds .

When Guardiola took over as Barcelona manager, they'd finished 3rd in La Liga under Frank Rijkaard. Ten points behind second-placed Villarreal and EIGHTEEN points behind Real Madrid. They were not in fine fettle.

When he took over at Bayern Munich, it was a different situation. They had just won the treble, which had never been done by any German team before, so it was difficult to see how it could be improved upon.

Man City have an ageing squad which needs to be completely revamped. I for one hope Guardiola succeeds just so he can shut up people that don't have a clue what they're on about.

Re: Pep Guardiola

Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:55 am

Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:I said this when he signed .
Barcelona at the time best team in the world , no adjustments needed just put them out and let them play.
Bayern munich at the time the most on form team in the world . Easy league to win with a great squad . Very little needed .
Man city , a squad that needs rebuilding in a very tough competitive league . Failing miserably

Hes not the manager he was made out to be even with pretty much inlimited funds .

When Guardiola took over as Barcelona manager, they'd finished 3rd in La Liga under Frank Rijkaard. Ten points behind second-placed Villarreal and EIGHTEEN points behind Real Madrid. They were not in fine fettle.

When he took over at Bayern Munich, it was a different situation. They had just won the treble, which had never been done by any German team before, so it was difficult to see how it could be improved upon.

Man City have an ageing squad which needs to be completely revamped. I for one hope Guardiola succeeds just so he can shut up people that don't have a clue what they're on about.


He had Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Pique, Puyol, Valdes etc at Barca. He had the core of an amazing team fall into his lap and possibly the best player of all time in his side.

At Bayern, he won the league but they were embarrassed at times in the Champions League, and they looked all at sea at times.

He's gone to City, spent £150m and they got battered by Everton. 10 points behind Chelsea who had an awful season last year.

Pep is a good manager but he's not the messiah he's made out to be. He should be doing a hell of a lot better than he currently is with that squad. Signing a crock like Gundogan was a strange call when he needed to overhaul his midfield, and the defending as a team has been shambolic, we won't even begin to mention Bravo, who is presumably a hologram.

Re: Pep Guardiola

Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:47 am

petesmeat wrote:
Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:I said this when he signed .
Barcelona at the time best team in the world , no adjustments needed just put them out and let them play.
Bayern munich at the time the most on form team in the world . Easy league to win with a great squad . Very little needed .
Man city , a squad that needs rebuilding in a very tough competitive league . Failing miserably

Hes not the manager he was made out to be even with pretty much inlimited funds .

When Guardiola took over as Barcelona manager, they'd finished 3rd in La Liga under Frank Rijkaard. Ten points behind second-placed Villarreal and EIGHTEEN points behind Real Madrid. They were not in fine fettle.

When he took over at Bayern Munich, it was a different situation. They had just won the treble, which had never been done by any German team before, so it was difficult to see how it could be improved upon.

Man City have an ageing squad which needs to be completely revamped. I for one hope Guardiola succeeds just so he can shut up people that don't have a clue what they're on about.


He had Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Pique, Puyol, Valdes etc at Barca. He had the core of an amazing team fall into his lap and possibly the best player of all time in his side.

At Bayern, he won the league but they were embarrassed at times in the Champions League, and they looked all at sea at times.

He's gone to City, spent £150m and they got battered by Everton. 10 points behind Chelsea who had an awful season last year.

Pep is a good manager but he's not the messiah he's made out to be. He should be doing a hell of a lot better than he currently is with that squad. Signing a crock like Gundogan was a strange call when he needed to overhaul his midfield, and the defending as a team has been shambolic, we won't even begin to mention Bravo, who is presumably a hologram.


:lol: :lol:
Presumably a hologram ..... Love it!