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RV Casual wrote:For me it was about a working class club, Cardiff City against the world if you like.
People from South Wales coming together in big or small numbers to support their team. South Wales is not a rich area and a day at the Football would have been seen as something of an escape from the day to day crap that filled people's lives whether it be working in a factory or sat in an office or grafting on a building site. Get that week done and escape to the Football on a Saturday. An away day with your mates in the van, on the bus, on the train, few cans, lots of laughs and banter and yes the odd bit of tomfoolery.
Players playing for the love of the game, money not spent in ridiculous amounts, stood on open terraces in our case the Grange End or the Bob Bank Terrace. We were always an underdog, a so called sleeping giant dreaming of a big draw in the FA Cup.
Wales vs England in every game, a feeling of representation of your area and country that you could be proud of, the smells on the terraces, the different characters etc etc.
Times move on and Football has with it but for me Cardiff City lost it's soul the day it left Ninian Park. I'm not a dinosaur and I appreciate that for some its possibly moved on for the better, but not for me.
Modern stadiums, mainly bowls that the clubs can't fill, over inflated prices on everything from tickets to food and drink, the hospitality (prawn sandwich) stuff, the players wages, the stewarding/policing. everything down to the last bone, just see that post last night about Rotherham trying to charge the supporters club £25 to park their coaches per coach, where is the justification in that? That is more Football in general mind as opposed to us specifically I accept.
So for me Cardiff City lost its soul the day we left Ninian Park and the day that the Club started to alienate its chore support, the working class South Wales Man.
Forever Blue wrote:RV Casual wrote:For me it was about a working class club, Cardiff City against the world if you like.
People from South Wales coming together in big or small numbers to support their team. South Wales is not a rich area and a day at the Football would have been seen as something of an escape from the day to day crap that filled people's lives whether it be working in a factory or sat in an office or grafting on a building site. Get that week done and escape to the Football on a Saturday. An away day with your mates in the van, on the bus, on the train, few cans, lots of laughs and banter and yes the odd bit of tomfoolery.
Players playing for the love of the game, money not spent in ridiculous amounts, stood on open terraces in our case the Grange End or the Bob Bank Terrace. We were always an underdog, a so called sleeping giant dreaming of a big draw in the FA Cup.
Wales vs England in every game, a feeling of representation of your area and country that you could be proud of, the smells on the terraces, the different characters etc etc.
Times move on and Football has with it but for me Cardiff City lost it's soul the day it left Ninian Park. I'm not a dinosaur and I appreciate that for some its possibly moved on for the better, but not for me.
Modern stadiums, mainly bowls that the clubs can't fill, over inflated prices on everything from tickets to food and drink, the hospitality (prawn sandwich) stuff, the players wages, the stewarding/policing. everything down to the last bone, just see that post last night about Rotherham trying to charge the supporters club £25 to park their coaches per coach, where is the justification in that? That is more Football in general mind as opposed to us specifically I accept.
So for me Cardiff City lost its soul the day we left Ninian Park and the day that the Club started to alienate its chore support, the working class South Wales Man.
100% Spot on, you've summoned it up thats How I feel
eddiep wrote:Forever Blue wrote:RV Casual wrote:For me it was about a working class club, Cardiff City against the world if you like.
People from South Wales coming together in big or small numbers to support their team. South Wales is not a rich area and a day at the Football would have been seen as something of an escape from the day to day crap that filled people's lives whether it be working in a factory or sat in an office or grafting on a building site. Get that week done and escape to the Football on a Saturday. An away day with your mates in the van, on the bus, on the train, few cans, lots of laughs and banter and yes the odd bit of tomfoolery.
Players playing for the love of the game, money not spent in ridiculous amounts, stood on open terraces in our case the Grange End or the Bob Bank Terrace. We were always an underdog, a so called sleeping giant dreaming of a big draw in the FA Cup.
Wales vs England in every game, a feeling of representation of your area and country that you could be proud of, the smells on the terraces, the different characters etc etc.
Times move on and Football has with it but for me Cardiff City lost it's soul the day it left Ninian Park. I'm not a dinosaur and I appreciate that for some its possibly moved on for the better, but not for me.
Modern stadiums, mainly bowls that the clubs can't fill, over inflated prices on everything from tickets to food and drink, the hospitality (prawn sandwich) stuff, the players wages, the stewarding/policing. everything down to the last bone, just see that post last night about Rotherham trying to charge the supporters club £25 to park their coaches per coach, where is the justification in that? That is more Football in general mind as opposed to us specifically I accept.
So for me Cardiff City lost its soul the day we left Ninian Park and the day that the Club started to alienate its chore support, the working class South Wales Man.
100% Spot on, you've summoned it up thats How I feel
I see West Ham are the latest batch of fans to go through this.
It's hard (modern football) for the working class man to take.
That's why 'to endure' is part of our dna
Always attacked, never beaten.
Costa Coffee Crew wrote:There is a lot of talk these days that the club has lost its soul - [ and i don't mean the Soul Crew! ]. "Its not like the old days" , "It doesn't matter as much to me these days" , "The Passion has gone" , " There is no atmosphere at CCS" - we keep hearing these things.
So boys what is the soul of Cardiff City? When it is at it's best what does it feel like to be a city fan? What words do you most associate with Cardiff City?
I'll give you an equivalent on what it means to be American - Harry Truman said “America was not built on fear. America was built on courage, on imagination and an unbeatable determination to do the job at hand.”
I'd really interested to know what you would say about being a Bluebird
RV Casual wrote:For me it was about a working class club, Cardiff City against the world if you like.
People from South Wales coming together in big or small numbers to support their team. South Wales is not a rich area and a day at the Football would have been seen as something of an escape from the day to day crap that filled people's lives whether it be working in a factory or sat in an office or grafting on a building site. Get that week done and escape to the Football on a Saturday. An away day with your mates in the van, on the bus, on the train, few cans, lots of laughs and banter and yes the odd bit of tomfoolery.
Players playing for the love of the game, money not spent in ridiculous amounts, stood on open terraces in our case the Grange End or the Bob Bank Terrace. We were always an underdog, a so called sleeping giant dreaming of a big draw in the FA Cup.
Wales vs England in every game, a feeling of representation of your area and country that you could be proud of, the smells on the terraces, the different characters etc etc.
Times move on and Football has with it but for me Cardiff City lost it's soul the day it left Ninian Park. I'm not a dinosaur and I appreciate that for some its possibly moved on for the better, but not for me.
Modern stadiums, mainly bowls that the clubs can't fill, over inflated prices on everything from tickets to food and drink, the hospitality (prawn sandwich) stuff, the players wages, the stewarding/policing. everything down to the last bone, just see that post last night about Rotherham trying to charge the supporters club £25 to park their coaches per coach, where is the justification in that? That is more Football in general mind as opposed to us specifically I accept.
So for me Cardiff City lost its soul the day we left Ninian Park and the day that the Club started to alienate its chore support, the working class South Wales Man.
RV Casual wrote:For me it was about a working class club, Cardiff City against the world if you like.
People from South Wales coming together in big or small numbers to support their team. South Wales is not a rich area and a day at the Football would have been seen as something of an escape from the day to day crap that filled people's lives whether it be working in a factory or sat in an office or grafting on a building site. Get that week done and escape to the Football on a Saturday. An away day with your mates in the van, on the bus, on the train, few cans, lots of laughs and banter and yes the odd bit of tomfoolery.
Players playing for the love of the game, money not spent in ridiculous amounts, stood on open terraces in our case the Grange End or the Bob Bank Terrace. We were always an underdog, a so called sleeping giant dreaming of a big draw in the FA Cup.
Wales vs England in every game, a feeling of representation of your area and country that you could be proud of, the smells on the terraces, the different characters etc etc.
Times move on and Football has with it but for me Cardiff City lost it's soul the day it left Ninian Park. I'm not a dinosaur and I appreciate that for some its possibly moved on for the better, but not for me.
Modern stadiums, mainly bowls that the clubs can't fill, over inflated prices on everything from tickets to food and drink, the hospitality (prawn sandwich) stuff, the players wages, the stewarding/policing. everything down to the last bone, just see that post last night about Rotherham trying to charge the supporters club £25 to park their coaches per coach, where is the justification in that? That is more Football in general mind as opposed to us specifically I accept.
So for me Cardiff City lost its soul the day we left Ninian Park and the day that the Club started to alienate its chore support, the working class South Wales Man.
Howey1927 wrote:Great thread and there is no one answer as everyone is different.
I had a season ticket every year for 21 years until the start of last season. I didn't get one then purely because I knew I couldn't attend the first 6 games and so it didn't make sense. In the end I only went to about 7 or 8 games. There was no intention on my part but when push came to shove, I couldn't be bothered with it and would spend time with my family or play golf instead. I was gutted that I didn't miss going. For years I would have dragged myself over hot coals, covered in petrol to get there for any shit game you care to mention. But at the same time, I can't tell you exactly why.
I don't blame new stadiums. The Emirates is a thing of wonder as are lots of other new grounds compared to some of the shit holes. Upton Park will be missed without doubt lots of old grounds were crap. Ninian was wonderful but it was shit in equal measure. The Wales qualifiers in our new ground with no atmosphere were superb. It us that create the atmosphere, not the ground.
I think for me, the thing that ruined it was I had for so long wanted City to reach Division 1/the Prem, that process of trying to get there was far better than actually being there. The red kit, the Malky business, the lame way we went down, Slade being appointed and now Trollope (although like every manager, I wish him every success) have all been totally underwhelming at least.
The Rick Wright era remains for me, the best time to be a City fan. It was the first time in my lifetime that we were able to compete and having an 8k crowd felt like playing in a full Bernabau! I never thought I'd go to Wembley and have 4 times and I never thought I watch City in the top-flight so I've done pretty well.
But it's not the same anymore and it makes me sad.
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