Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:42 am
Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:58 am
Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:11 am
pembroke allan wrote:Change the formation for a start he needs go 442 at least until he can get players use to the system he is trying to play! He can introduce it in training over period of time ?
Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:13 am
boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Change the formation for a start he needs go 442 at least until he can get players use to the system he is trying to play! He can introduce it in training over period of time ?
Please not 442. We have had that for 2 seasons and it was some of the most boring football ever.
Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:15 am
boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Change the formation for a start he needs go 442 at least until he can get players use to the system he is trying to play! He can introduce it in training over period of time ?
Please not 442. We have had that for 2 seasons and it was some of the most boring football ever.
Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:22 am
ThomasC wrote:boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Change the formation for a start he needs go 442 at least until he can get players use to the system he is trying to play! He can introduce it in training over period of time ?
Please not 442. We have had that for 2 seasons and it was some of the most boring football ever.
the question is. does a formation guarantee entertainment or the players? the last season in 4-4-2 we finished what I guess we would all take at this moment, 8th place.
Agree it wasn't entertaining but to emphasis the point, can the players we have, able to play the kind of football we want?
Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:25 am
pembroke allan wrote:ThomasC wrote:boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Change the formation for a start he needs go 442 at least until he can get players use to the system he is trying to play! He can introduce it in training over period of time ?
Please not 442. We have had that for 2 seasons and it was some of the most boring football ever.
the question is. does a formation guarantee entertainment or the players? the last season in 4-4-2 we finished what I guess we would all take at this moment, 8th place.
Agree it wasn't entertaining but to emphasis the point, can the players we have, able to play the kind of football we want?
At present doesn't look like! so something needs to change or we will find ourselves lagging in relegation spot soon! Trollope said wants play Wales way we'll we don't have the personel to do it effectively without lot more work being done
Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:28 am
ThomasC wrote:pembroke allan wrote:ThomasC wrote:boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Change the formation for a start he needs go 442 at least until he can get players use to the system he is trying to play! He can introduce it in training over period of time ?
Please not 442. We have had that for 2 seasons and it was some of the most boring football ever.
the question is. does a formation guarantee entertainment or the players? the last season in 4-4-2 we finished what I guess we would all take at this moment, 8th place.
Agree it wasn't entertaining but to emphasis the point, can the players we have, able to play the kind of football we want?
At present doesn't look like! so something needs to change or we will find ourselves lagging in relegation spot soon! Trollope said wants play Wales way we'll we don't have the personel to do it effectively without lot more work being done
A bad side is a bad side! No hiding place. I don't like 5-3-2 mind as it give emphasis to the opposition to control games. I said as much before the season, we are playing what is essentially a successful tournament formation based on lightning quick counter-attacks.
Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:32 am
pembroke allan wrote:ThomasC wrote:pembroke allan wrote:ThomasC wrote:boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Change the formation for a start he needs go 442 at least until he can get players use to the system he is trying to play! He can introduce it in training over period of time ?
Please not 442. We have had that for 2 seasons and it was some of the most boring football ever.
the question is. does a formation guarantee entertainment or the players? the last season in 4-4-2 we finished what I guess we would all take at this moment, 8th place.
Agree it wasn't entertaining but to emphasis the point, can the players we have, able to play the kind of football we want?
At present doesn't look like! so something needs to change or we will find ourselves lagging in relegation spot soon! Trollope said wants play Wales way we'll we don't have the personel to do it effectively without lot more work being done
A bad side is a bad side! No hiding place. I don't like 5-3-2 mind as it give emphasis to the opposition to control games. I said as much before the season, we are playing what is essentially a successful tournament formation based on lightning quick counter-attacks.
The Wales way without bale / Ramsey! They had more possession but looked less effective than us? Don't think we are as bad as appears it could well be coach is problem ?
Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:38 am
pembroke allan wrote:ThomasC wrote:pembroke allan wrote:ThomasC wrote:boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Change the formation for a start he needs go 442 at least until he can get players use to the system he is trying to play! He can introduce it in training over period of time ?
Please not 442. We have had that for 2 seasons and it was some of the most boring football ever.
the question is. does a formation guarantee entertainment or the players? the last season in 4-4-2 we finished what I guess we would all take at this moment, 8th place.
Agree it wasn't entertaining but to emphasis the point, can the players we have, able to play the kind of football we want?
At present doesn't look like! so something needs to change or we will find ourselves lagging in relegation spot soon! Trollope said wants play Wales way we'll we don't have the personel to do it effectively without lot more work being done
A bad side is a bad side! No hiding place. I don't like 5-3-2 mind as it give emphasis to the opposition to control games. I said as much before the season, we are playing what is essentially a successful tournament formation based on lightning quick counter-attacks.
The Wales way without bale / Ramsey! They had more possession but looked less effective than us? Don't think we are as bad as appears it could well be coach is problem ?
Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:01 am
ThomasC wrote:pembroke allan wrote:ThomasC wrote:pembroke allan wrote:ThomasC wrote:boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Change the formation for a start he needs go 442 at least until he can get players use to the system he is trying to play! He can introduce it in training over period of time ?
Please not 442. We have had that for 2 seasons and it was some of the most boring football ever.
the question is. does a formation guarantee entertainment or the players? the last season in 4-4-2 we finished what I guess we would all take at this moment, 8th place.
Agree it wasn't entertaining but to emphasis the point, can the players we have, able to play the kind of football we want?
At present doesn't look like! so something needs to change or we will find ourselves lagging in relegation spot soon! Trollope said wants play Wales way we'll we don't have the personel to do it effectively without lot more work being done
A bad side is a bad side! No hiding place. I don't like 5-3-2 mind as it give emphasis to the opposition to control games. I said as much before the season, we are playing what is essentially a successful tournament formation based on lightning quick counter-attacks.
The Wales way without bale / Ramsey! They had more possession but looked less effective than us? Don't think we are as bad as appears it could well be coach is problem ?
Well, that's certainly open to debate Allan Nobody is wrong to state our problems run deeper than who is the manager, but, could another manager be doing a better job under these circumstances? I would prob say yes
Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:05 am
Neokutai wrote:pembroke allan wrote:ThomasC wrote:pembroke allan wrote:ThomasC wrote:boyo1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Change the formation for a start he needs go 442 at least until he can get players use to the system he is trying to play! He can introduce it in training over period of time ?
Please not 442. We have had that for 2 seasons and it was some of the most boring football ever.
the question is. does a formation guarantee entertainment or the players? the last season in 4-4-2 we finished what I guess we would all take at this moment, 8th place.
Agree it wasn't entertaining but to emphasis the point, can the players we have, able to play the kind of football we want?
At present doesn't look like! so something needs to change or we will find ourselves lagging in relegation spot soon! Trollope said wants play Wales way we'll we don't have the personel to do it effectively without lot more work being done
A bad side is a bad side! No hiding place. I don't like 5-3-2 mind as it give emphasis to the opposition to control games. I said as much before the season, we are playing what is essentially a successful tournament formation based on lightning quick counter-attacks.
The Wales way without bale / Ramsey! They had more possession but looked less effective than us? Don't think we are as bad as appears it could well be coach is problem ?
Totally agree, even when attacking it's 5 at the back with both wing backs going no further than the half way line, on the rare occasions Harris got forward we looked a threat but it's mostly lethargic.
Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:06 am
pembroke allan wrote:Change the formation for a start he needs go 442 at least until he can get players use to the system he is trying to play! He can introduce it in training over period of time ?
Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:09 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Change the formation for a start he needs go 442 at least until he can get players use to the system he is trying to play! He can introduce it in training over period of time ?
The 5-3-2 is not working I agree with that. Personally I would give 4-3-3 ago with Noone, Harris and Pilks upfront. Yes we still lack a proven goal scorer but the fact is we haven't got one (unless Healey comes in from the DVP) but those players would be a very fast tricky direct trio who would give opposition sides something different to think about.
Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:26 am
Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:29 am
brickyblue wrote:Problem is the club are going one way and that's backwards and they are asking pt to move forward.
It's impossible as also the club have said they want promotion and to be honest it's yet again a situation of 2 steps forward and 3 back for city.
They worked hard to get fans back and new fans in with the free tickets and the offers on season tickets all for that work to be undone by a lack of ambition and total bull shit a lot of fans had had enough but now as we are with players being sold its a mile away from the club's statement of promotion or top 6 .as it stands city have yet again set themselves up to be shot down.
We have a guy in charge who has the Money but has still managed to cock it all up for us.
The question now is what's he up to with city is he doing this to sell us or has he learnt his lesson and started again.
For me under Tan it's been a disaster the years in red I hated with a passion .I let it go and carried on when we went back to blue and I'm currently giving the man another chance because I love the city but again it's so frustrating being a fan under Tans cardiff city who knows what he's doing but it ain't looking good is it .
Any way promotion is what the club wants and pt has £2.20 to do it I just hope people don't blame him I for one admire his new philosophy which will take time and back from the club .
Time will tell but at mo the club's braking its own back.
Sun Aug 28, 2016 3:35 pm
Forever Blue wrote:brickyblue wrote:Problem is the club are going one way and that's backwards and they are asking pt to move forward.
It's impossible as also the club have said they want promotion and to be honest it's yet again a situation of 2 steps forward and 3 back for city.
They worked hard to get fans back and new fans in with the free tickets and the offers on season tickets all for that work to be undone by a lack of ambition and total bull shit a lot of fans had had enough but now as we are with players being sold its a mile away from the club's statement of promotion or top 6 .as it stands city have yet again set themselves up to be shot down.
We have a guy in charge who has the Money but has still managed to cock it all up for us.
The question now is what's he up to with city is he doing this to sell us or has he learnt his lesson and started again.
For me under Tan it's been a disaster the years in red I hated with a passion .I let it go and carried on when we went back to blue and I'm currently giving the man another chance because I love the city but again it's so frustrating being a fan under Tans cardiff city who knows what he's doing but it ain't looking good is it .
Any way promotion is what the club wants and pt has £2.20 to do it I just hope people don't blame him I for one admire his new philosophy which will take time and back from the club .
Time will tell but at mo the club's braking its own back.
A lot of truth there and I won't be blaming Trollope at all, as he was offered a chance in management and he is doing it with his hands totally tied and very very limited funds.