TrueBlue99 wrote:I agree I really i dont think its working, it worked for wales as they had a match winner up front in Bale, we dont have one of those obviously, the wing backs still aren't providing enough width imo apart for kadeem, and I think Ralls has been poor in the midfield so far.
I think we should switch to a flat back four and have Kadeem further forward with some help to cover him, even though hes been doing some very good defensive work. Maybe a 4231 with Gunnar and Okeefe being my two preferred cdm's when Stuart has recovered and Whittingham out on the left so he has more time on the ball to create something and then Immers just behind the striker, wether that be Pilks or someone else to come in.
davids wrote:The 3-5-2 formation was all the rage about 5 years ago but most of the teams that pioneered it have now abandoned it.
Slade was criticised (as was Dave Jones) for rigidly sticking to 4-4-2 in every game he played.
Trollope so far has stuck pretty rigidly to 3-5-2 despite it having hardly been what you'd call a success.
Is it too much to ask to have a manager who can set up a team in a formation that best suits the qualities of the players he has, rather than trying to shoehorn players into various systems, often with players being played out of position?
Too much is made of rigid formations for me - decent players guided by a suitable manager should be able to adapt to changes in the game without making such a meal of playing in this system or that.
davids wrote:The 3-5-2 formation was all the rage about 5 years ago but most of the teams that pioneered it have now abandoned it.
Slade was criticised (as was Dave Jones) for rigidly sticking to 4-4-2 in every game he played.
Trollope so far has stuck pretty rigidly to 3-5-2 despite it having hardly been what you'd call a success.
Is it too much to ask to have a manager who can set up a team in a formation that best suits the qualities of the players he has, rather than trying to shoehorn players into various systems, often with players being played out of position?
Too much is made of rigid formations for me - decent players guided by a suitable manager should be able to adapt to changes in the game without making such a meal of playing in this system or that.
troobloo3339 wrote:davids wrote:The 3-5-2 formation was all the rage about 5 years ago but most of the teams that pioneered it have now abandoned it.
Slade was criticised (as was Dave Jones) for rigidly sticking to 4-4-2 in every game he played.
Trollope so far has stuck pretty rigidly to 3-5-2 despite it having hardly been what you'd call a success.
Is it too much to ask to have a manager who can set up a team in a formation that best suits the qualities of the players he has, rather than trying to shoehorn players into various systems, often with players being played out of position?
Too much is made of rigid formations for me - decent players guided by a suitable manager should be able to adapt to changes in the game without making such a meal of playing in this system or that.
IMO if we were playing 3 5 2 I would be happy
But we are not
We set up 5 3 2 on Saturday not 3 5 2 jazz and Harris were more like standard full backs rather than wing backs
davids wrote:troobloo3339 wrote:davids wrote:The 3-5-2 formation was all the rage about 5 years ago but most of the teams that pioneered it have now abandoned it.
Slade was criticised (as was Dave Jones) for rigidly sticking to 4-4-2 in every game he played.
Trollope so far has stuck pretty rigidly to 3-5-2 despite it having hardly been what you'd call a success.
Is it too much to ask to have a manager who can set up a team in a formation that best suits the qualities of the players he has, rather than trying to shoehorn players into various systems, often with players being played out of position?
Too much is made of rigid formations for me - decent players guided by a suitable manager should be able to adapt to changes in the game without making such a meal of playing in this system or that.
IMO if we were playing 3 5 2 I would be happy
But we are not
We set up 5 3 2 on Saturday not 3 5 2 jazz and Harris were more like standard full backs rather than wing backs
Fair point. The wing backs rarely got over the halfway line in the second half although they did a bit more in the first half.
bluemun wrote:If teams employ the right tactics against the wingback system, then it becomes virtually impossible for them to attack. England did against Wales, as did Portugal. We have players who can play at fullback like Peltier and Bennett and Harris and John could be used as wingers, especially Kadeem.
pembroke allan wrote:Lots teams who used 352 or 532 are now using 442 variations! Of course they have better strikers but in principle if players used correctly it does work, slate had faults but didn't he keep us in with playoff chance we'll into season?
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