nubbsy wrote:Fair enough,that explains alot cheers wez. But I'm afraid you give any manager an open cheque book from a billionaire and he's guna go crazy. Im not saying they spent well I'm saying they should never have been given the authority to dictate what wages they give or fees they pay. That fault falls high up at board level lets not run away from that fact and just blame the managers because that's just a cop out.
The harsh truth is the way this club had been run with complete lack of direction and experience is the reason were in this shit state, not a couple of managers.
Reza wrote:How is it we are struggling with financial fair play and other teams spending millions
I know the likes of lefondre and dikgacoi was on massive wages but but how come we are the only team ffp seems to apply to
Reza wrote:How is it we are struggling with financial fair play and other teams spending millions
I know the likes of lefondre and dikgacoi was on massive wages but but how come we are the only team ffp seems to apply to
wez1927 wrote:nubbsy wrote:Fair enough,that explains alot cheers wez. But I'm afraid you give any manager an open cheque book from a billionaire and he's guna go crazy. Im not saying they spent well I'm saying they should never have been given the authority to dictate what wages they give or fees they pay. That fault falls high up at board level lets not run away from that fact and just blame the managers because that's just a cop out.
The harsh truth is the way this club had been run with complete lack of direction and experience is the reason were in this shit state, not a couple of managers.
I think since choo has come along its got better the previous people have been awful tan has been taken for a ride
Cardiffcitymad wrote:wez1927 wrote:nubbsy wrote:Fair enough,that explains alot cheers wez. But I'm afraid you give any manager an open cheque book from a billionaire and he's guna go crazy. Im not saying they spent well I'm saying they should never have been given the authority to dictate what wages they give or fees they pay. That fault falls high up at board level lets not run away from that fact and just blame the managers because that's just a cop out.
The harsh truth is the way this club had been run with complete lack of direction and experience is the reason were in this shit state, not a couple of managers.
I think since choo has come along its got better the previous people have been awful tan has been taken for a ride
I have always maintained that choo and dalman are working in the background. How an earth can Tan be running a football business from a different county?
Blueboys1927 wrote:Tan the business genius, give me a break
wez1927 wrote:I hope vincent doesn't mind me doing it but it explains the current situation a bit more
They needed to get a further 10 million at least off the wage bill they were hoping to move le fondre mecada etc along with one big name but no one wants them because they aren't very good. We can not pay them up as that will still be accounted for in one lump sum in this year's accounts, so it appears that we have to sell another one of our assets maybe Marshall or Manga along with job cuts with staff and other cuts to avoid breaking FFP rules which would mean another transfer embargo and a fine. Very sad state of affairs you can blame Malky and OGS for the mess with the players they brought in and the wages they agreed, they were the so called football experts
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Sorry but Tan is supposed to be a billionaire business genius....everything he has done at Cardiff would suggest he is an idiot
Him and his cronies are responsible for putting us in the mess we are....forget Malky and OGS overspending...who actually authorised all this spending Tan and his cronies....I'm sick off them all
since64 wrote:How you can blame former managers for this mess is beyond me,l must be living in a different world to some of yoy
epping blue wrote:since64 wrote:How you can blame former managers for this mess is beyond me,l must be living in a different world to some of yoy
I don't have an issue with blaming former manages but its a nonsense trying to pin any of this on Malky's. Most of his premiership acquisitions were moved on, only Cornelius at a significant loss. We took to the field at Fulham last week 6 of the starting line and 2 of the bench were Malky's team. He's been gone nearly 3 years and yet he's still providing the backbone of the team. Now we'll sell a Malky asset cause we cant even give away the players brought in under Tan's so called transfer committee.
The clubs hierarchy and their apologists will still blame Malky though.
64JACK wrote:ThomasC wrote: your my favourite poster
Actually, your mine as well! The avator clinches it for me, as sometimes I do imagine I'm talking too a sensible lemon in sunglasses!
RV Casual wrote:He is 100% wrong to blame former managers. They would have/should have had a budget to adhere to.
It's whoever let us go beyond our means that is to blame.
The buck stops with Tan, end of.
nubbsy wrote:Fair enough,that explains alot cheers wez. But I'm afraid you give any manager an open cheque book from a billionaire and he's guna go crazy. Im not saying they spent well I'm saying they should never have been given the authority to dictate what wages they give or fees they pay. That fault falls high up at board level lets not run away from that fact and just blame the managers because that's just a cop out.
The harsh truth is the way this club had been run with complete lack of direction and experience is the reason were in this shit state, not a couple of managers.
epping blue wrote:since64 wrote:How you can blame former managers for this mess is beyond me,l must be living in a different world to some of yoy
I don't have an issue with blaming former manages but its a nonsense trying to pin any of this on Malky's. Most of his premiership acquisitions were moved on, only Cornelius at a significant loss. We took to the field at Fulham last week 6 of the starting line and 2 of the bench were Malky's team. He's been gone nearly 3 years and yet he's still providing the backbone of the team. Now we'll sell a Malky asset cause we cant even give away the players brought in under Tan's so called transfer committee.
The clubs hierarchy and their apologists will still blame Malky though.
epping blue wrote:since64 wrote:How you can blame former managers for this mess is beyond me,l must be living in a different world to some of yoy
I don't have an issue with blaming former manages but its a nonsense trying to pin any of this on Malky's. Most of his premiership acquisitions were moved on, only Cornelius at a significant loss. We took to the field at Fulham last week 6 of the starting line and 2 of the bench were Malky's team. He's been gone nearly 3 years and yet he's still providing the backbone of the team. Now we'll sell a Malky asset cause we cant even give away the players brought in under Tan's so called transfer committee.
The clubs hierarchy and their apologists will still blame Malky though.
Aramore wrote:epping blue wrote:since64 wrote:How you can blame former managers for this mess is beyond me,l must be living in a different world to some of yoy
I don't have an issue with blaming former manages but its a nonsense trying to pin any of this on Malky's. Most of his premiership acquisitions were moved on, only Cornelius at a significant loss. We took to the field at Fulham last week 6 of the starting line and 2 of the bench were Malky's team. He's been gone nearly 3 years and yet he's still providing the backbone of the team. Now we'll sell a Malky asset cause we cant even give away the players brought in under Tan's so called transfer committee.
The clubs hierarchy and their apologists will still blame Malky though.
Which 6 were malky's?
1 Marshall - Dave Jones
2 Peltier - Slade
4 Morrison - Ole
16 Connolly - Malky
6 Richards - Trollope
17Gunnarsson - Malky
7 Whittingham - Dave Jones
8 Ralls - Academy signing while Dave Jones was here
12 John - Academy
10 Immers - Slade/Trollope
13 Pilkington - Ole
Substitutes
5 Ecuele Manga - Ole
9 Gounongbe - Trollope
11 Noone - Malky
24 Harris - Malky
25 Huws - Trollope
26 Zohore - Slade/Trollope
30 Wilson - Academy
Lawnmower wrote:RV Casual wrote:He is 100% wrong to blame former managers. They would have/should have had a budget to adhere to.
It's whoever let us go beyond our means that is to blame.
The buck stops with Tan, end of.
I think it's fair to blame them, with the money Tan gave both to spend we should still be in the Prem.
It's their poor transfer dealings which have left us a mediocre Championship club with a lower Prem wage bill.
nubbsy wrote:Aramore wrote:epping blue wrote:since64 wrote:How you can blame former managers for this mess is beyond me,l must be living in a different world to some of yoy
I don't have an issue with blaming former manages but its a nonsense trying to pin any of this on Malky's. Most of his premiership acquisitions were moved on, only Cornelius at a significant loss. We took to the field at Fulham last week 6 of the starting line and 2 of the bench were Malky's team. He's been gone nearly 3 years and yet he's still providing the backbone of the team. Now we'll sell a Malky asset cause we cant even give away the players brought in under Tan's so called transfer committee.
The clubs hierarchy and their apologists will still blame Malky though.
Which 6 were malky's?
1 Marshall - Dave Jones
2 Peltier - Slade
4 Morrison - Ole
16 Connolly - Malky
6 Richards - Trollope
17Gunnarsson - Malky
7 Whittingham - Dave Jones
8 Ralls - Academy signing while Dave Jones was here
12 John - Academy
10 Immers - Slade/Trollope
13 Pilkington - Ole
Substitutes
5 Ecuele Manga - Ole
9 Gounongbe - Trollope
11 Noone - Malky
24 Harris - Malky
25 Huws - Trollope
26 Zohore - Slade/Trollope
30 Wilson - Academy
Didn't malky give John and Ralls their senior contracts?
64JACK wrote:ThomasC wrote: your my favourite poster
Actually, your mine as well! The avator clinches it for me, as sometimes I do imagine I'm talking too a sensible lemon in sunglasses!
epping blue wrote:since64 wrote:How you can blame former managers for this mess is beyond me,l must be living in a different world to some of yoy
I don't have an issue with blaming former manages but its a nonsense trying to pin any of this on Malky's. Most of his premiership acquisitions were moved on, only Cornelius at a significant loss. We took to the field at Fulham last week 6 of the starting line and 2 of the bench were Malky's team. He's been gone nearly 3 years and yet he's still providing the backbone of the team. Now we'll sell a Malky asset cause we cant even give away the players brought in under Tan's so called transfer committee.
The clubs hierarchy and their apologists will still blame Malky though.
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:epping blue wrote:since64 wrote:How you can blame former managers for this mess is beyond me,l must be living in a different world to some of yoy
I don't have an issue with blaming former manages but its a nonsense trying to pin any of this on Malky's. Most of his premiership acquisitions were moved on, only Cornelius at a significant loss. We took to the field at Fulham last week 6 of the starting line and 2 of the bench were Malky's team. He's been gone nearly 3 years and yet he's still providing the backbone of the team. Now we'll sell a Malky asset cause we cant even give away the players brought in under Tan's so called transfer committee.
The clubs hierarchy and their apologists will still blame Malky though.
Good post.
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