' VERY CONCERNING AND WORRYING FOR CARDIFF CITY FC '

' VERY CONCERNING AND WORRYING FOR CARDIFF CITY FC '


Cardiff City's home support 2015/16 season in numbers.


In total 378,203 fans watched the twenty three Championship fixtures at CCS this season.

The average attendance was 16,443.

The average home support was 15,610.

The average away support was 833.

The biggest attendance was 28,860 versus Derby County.

The lowest attendance was 12,279 versus Brentford.

The biggest attendance where there were not free tickets given away was 15,566 versus Preston.

The average attendance was boosted considerably by the free tickets giveaway in final few games, if we took the highest attendance (without free ticket giveaways) of the season and replaced the 'inflated' attendances at the end of the season with that 15,566 figure then the average attendance would have been 14,726.


2014/15 Season in numbers


In total 486,381 fans watched the twenty three Championship fixtures at CCS in the 2014/15 season.

The 2014/15 season average attendance was 21,147.

The average home support for 2014/15 was 20,235.

The average away support for 2014/15 was 912.


DIFFERENCE IN NUMBERS

The decrease between 2014/15 and 2015/16 attendances on a match by match average was 22.24% or a difference of 4,704.

There was a decrease of 22.86% in home support or a difference 4,625.

There was a decrease of 8.66% in away support coming to CCS or a difference of 79.

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Appointing Trollope as Head Coach isn't going to improve those figures.

DIFFERENCE IN NUMBERS

The decrease between 2014/15 and 2015/16 attendances on a match by match average was 22.24% or a difference of 4,704.

There was a decrease of 22.86% in home support or a difference 4,625.

There was a decrease of 8.66% in away support coming to CCS or a difference of 79.





Carl,to me thats very worrying as 4 of our home games,were up to 10,000 Free tickets given away and 5 home games Cheap tickets.

Also sometimes up to 4,000 season ticket holders have not even attended plus,many of the free tickets haven't even been used.

But are these figures even as high as that?
We've seen time & time again attendance's being announced and half the stadium laughing as the actual attendance is several thousand lower many times.

Appointing Trollope as Head Coach isn't going to improve those figures.

f*cking aint mate only get worse,I will be there though

That's what slades football did trollope will do the same these people are fourth division managers

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Neil Hasson
Yes it is. Unless we get a good manager and few new faces in the team it'll be a lot less this coming season. The die hards will be there as always. City till I die



Jonathan Bright
The decision the club makes on the manager is massive this could send the club one or the other ,get it wrong and well could go back to the dark old days

Appointing Trollope as Head Coach isn't going to improve those figures.

Spot on.

Cheap season tickets and giving away freebies are all well and good but the only way of attracting numbers back to the ground is with a successful team.

And the best chance of getting a successful team is appointing an experienced manager who has had success before or appointing an exciting young manager who will galvanize the support.

With the greatest of respect that rules out Trollope and Rowberry for a start.

I can understand the club wanting to make significant financial savings but I believe it's a fine balancing act. It's clear why the crowds have dropped so much in that many fans are fed up watching boring negative football.

It's fair to say that with a proven goal scorer we would have been in the play offs this season. City need to show some ambition and appoint a manager who has been at this level and produced results. On top of that we need 3/4 new faces particularly strikers. You cannot play half a season without a recognised striker. I hope the club shows some ambition and appoints a manager outside the current regime and that manager is given funds to strengthen. Cannot see how any club can get promoted on a shoestring.

Appointing Trollope as Head Coach isn't going to improve those figures.

If we appoint him, we will lose another 10% minimum, unless of course most people who doubt him are wrong and we are in the top three within the first five games.....

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I can understand the club wanting to make significant financial savings but I believe it's a fine balancing act. It's clear why the crowds have dropped so much in that many fans are fed up watching boring negative football.

It's fair to say that with a proven goal scorer we would have been in the play offs this season. City need to show some ambition and appoint a manager who has been at this level and produced results. On top of that we need 3/4 new faces particularly strikers. You cannot play half a season without a recognised striker. I hope the club shows some ambition and appoints a manager outside the current regime and that manager is given funds to strengthen. Cannot see how any club can get promoted on a shoestring.

Agree, I know lots of fans and judge them if you want but they are waiting to see what unfolds over the summer before committing.

Whilst our attendances are poor to say the least! Are we only the ones suffering low attendances? because it sounds like it, And to be controversial I am not interested in who doesn't go to games as long as I'm there that's what matters to me! The club will never die so always be there for me to support.

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My take on dwindling numbers.

Whilst I believe that there is a contributing factor from the blue to red fiasco and the consequential divide amongst fans regarding the tan regime, I honestly don't think you can just blame the numbers on any one thing but a number of things;

- Red to Blue
- General disrespect for Tan (Simon cowell trousers around his waist, shirt tie & kit combo, non attendance etc)
- The demise and later hounding of Malky
- The painter
- OGS spending spree and subsequent "just a big sqoud and no team"
- Slades appointment.
- And if true now the pending appointment of Trolope
- No atmosphere at the stadium
- Stewards that behave like they think they are the police.
- etc etc

But here iare two points worth considering, nearly every club outside of the premiership has dwindling attendances, with the exception of those that see saw between the premiership (of which we have done once recently) the reason for the dwindling numbers are the average costs going up above inflation on the back of a resession, the availability of home content, Sky, Virgin, 4g, Kodi and other streaming sites etc etc

And the other point and I really would like to see this answered truthfully, is do you honestly think that if the club (Tan) brought in the fans favourite as manager (ie Warnock) would we really see fans come back in thier thousands ? Yeah we may all know the odd one or two, and maybe even the odd high profile supporter may know 10's of people but no one can say they know of thousands that will return, and if we all added up the ones we know that say will return I bet it's only a few hundred that actually would.

Fans nowadays are fickle, in most clubs there is a core element of die hard fans that will always be there, but that number is dwindling at nearly every club outside of the premiership.

Dirty Leeds used to average 40k at home, I bet they don't now, watch villas attendances drop next season, in fact most of the midlands clubs have ever decreasing attendances BUT MOST HAVENT GOT THE SAME ACCUMILATION OF PROBLEMS/ISSUES THAT WE HAVE HAD RECENTLY.

The premiership and Sky go a long way to blame by creating the holy grail of football that the majority only want to watch, more and more clubs need to be more in touch with existing fan bases, ticket pricing and liaison with the local communities doing more to attract new supporters, City have started this very recently, but it's very early days and this will take time, the better the team does on the pitch and more importantly the better the club does off the pitch will see a slow return of hopefully a full stadium.

My take on dwindling numbers.

Whilst I believe that there is a contributing factor from the blue to red fiasco and the consequential divide amongst fans regarding the tan regime, I honestly don't think you can just blame the numbers on any one thing but a number of things;

- Red to Blue
- General disrespect for Tan (Simon cowell trousers around his waist, shirt tie & kit combo, non attendance etc)
- The demise and later hounding of Malky
- The painter
- OGS spending spree and subsequent "just a big sqoud and no team"
- Slades appointment.
- And if true now the pending appointment of Trolope
- No atmosphere at the stadium
- Stewards that behave like they think they are the police.
- etc etc

But here iare two points worth considering, nearly every club outside of the premiership has dwindling attendances, with the exception of those that see saw between the premiership (of which we have done once recently) the reason for the dwindling numbers are the average costs going up above inflation on the back of a resession, the availability of home content, Sky, Virgin, 4g, Kodi and other streaming sites etc etc

And the other point and I really would like to see this answered truthfully, is do you honestly think that if the club (Tan) brought in the fans favourite as manager (ie Warnock) would we really see fans come back in thier thousands ? Yeah we may all know the odd one or two, and maybe even the odd high profile supporter may know 10's of people but no one can say they know of thousands that will return, and if we all added up the ones we know that say will return I bet it's only a few hundred that actually would.

Fans nowadays are fickle, in most clubs there is a core element of die hard fans that will always be there, but that number is dwindling at nearly every club outside of the premiership.

Dirty Leeds used to average 40k at home, I bet they don't now, watch villas attendances drop next season, in fact most of the midlands clubs have ever decreasing attendances BUT MOST HAVENT GOT THE SAME ACCUMILATION OF PROBLEMS/ISSUES THAT WE HAVE HAD RECENTLY.

The premiership and Sky go a long way to blame by creating the holy grail of football that the majority only want to watch, more and more clubs need to be more in touch with existing fan bases, ticket pricing and liaison with the local communities doing more to attract new supporters, City have started this very recently, but it's very early days and this will take time, the better the team does on the pitch and more importantly the better the club does off the pitch will see a slow return of hopefully a full stadium.

Well said

My take on dwindling numbers.

Whilst I believe that there is a contributing factor from the blue to red fiasco and the consequential divide amongst fans regarding the tan regime, I honestly don't think you can just blame the numbers on any one thing but a number of things;

- Red to Blue
- General disrespect for Tan (Simon cowell trousers around his waist, shirt tie & kit combo, non attendance etc)
- The demise and later hounding of Malky
- The painter
- OGS spending spree and subsequent "just a big sqoud and no team"
- Slades appointment.
- And if true now the pending appointment of Trolope
- No atmosphere at the stadium
- Stewards that behave like they think they are the police.
- etc etc

But here iare two points worth considering, nearly every club outside of the premiership has dwindling attendances, with the exception of those that see saw between the premiership (of which we have done once recently) the reason for the dwindling numbers are the average costs going up above inflation on the back of a resession, the availability of home content, Sky, Virgin, 4g, Kodi and other streaming sites etc etc

And the other point and I really would like to see this answered truthfully, is do you honestly think that if the club (Tan) brought in the fans favourite as manager (ie Warnock) would we really see fans come back in thier thousands ? Yeah we may all know the odd one or two, and maybe even the odd high profile supporter may know 10's of people but no one can say they know of thousands that will return, and if we all added up the ones we know that say will return I bet it's only a few hundred that actually would.

Fans nowadays are fickle, in most clubs there is a core element of die hard fans that will always be there, but that number is dwindling at nearly every club outside of the premiership.

Dirty Leeds used to average 40k at home, I bet they don't now, watch villas attendances drop next season, in fact most of the midlands clubs have ever decreasing attendances BUT MOST HAVENT GOT THE SAME ACCUMILATION OF PROBLEMS/ISSUES THAT WE HAVE HAD RECENTLY.

The premiership and Sky go a long way to blame by creating the holy grail of football that the majority only want to watch, more and more clubs need to be more in touch with existing fan bases, ticket pricing and liaison with the local communities doing more to attract new supporters, City have started this very recently, but it's very early days and this will take time, the better the team does on the pitch and more importantly the better the club does off the pitch will see a slow return of hopefully a full stadium.

Exactly while there are other contributing factors the main reason is 'modern' football which is becoming a largely sterile affair on the fan front. I used to go to around 15 away games a season but have stopped altogether now as simply it's become largely boring / no atmosphere at most games and it's just not worth the cost
My decision to stop had absolutely nothing to do with Tan who despite the mistakes he's made I see no worse than many other owners we've had

My take on dwindling numbers.

Whilst I believe that there is a contributing factor from the blue to red fiasco and the consequential divide amongst fans regarding the tan regime, I honestly don't think you can just blame the numbers on any one thing but a number of things;

- Red to Blue
- General disrespect for Tan (Simon cowell trousers around his waist, shirt tie & kit combo, non attendance etc)
- The demise and later hounding of Malky
- The painter
- OGS spending spree and subsequent "just a big sqoud and no team"
- Slades appointment.
- And if true now the pending appointment of Trolope
- No atmosphere at the stadium
- Stewards that behave like they think they are the police.
- etc etc

But here iare two points worth considering, nearly every club outside of the premiership has dwindling attendances, with the exception of those that see saw between the premiership (of which we have done once recently) the reason for the dwindling numbers are the average costs going up above inflation on the back of a resession, the availability of home content, Sky, Virgin, 4g, Kodi and other streaming sites etc etc

And the other point and I really would like to see this answered truthfully, is do you honestly think that if the club (Tan) brought in the fans favourite as manager (ie Warnock) would we really see fans come back in thier thousands ? Yeah we may all know the odd one or two, and maybe even the odd high profile supporter may know 10's of people but no one can say they know of thousands that will return, and if we all added up the ones we know that say will return I bet it's only a few hundred that actually would.

Fans nowadays are fickle, in most clubs there is a core element of die hard fans that will always be there, but that number is dwindling at nearly every club outside of the premiership.

Dirty Leeds used to average 40k at home, I bet they don't now, watch villas attendances drop next season, in fact most of the midlands clubs have ever decreasing attendances BUT MOST HAVENT GOT THE SAME ACCUMILATION OF PROBLEMS/ISSUES THAT WE HAVE HAD RECENTLY.

The premiership and Sky go a long way to blame by creating the holy grail of football that the majority only want to watch, more and more clubs need to be more in touch with existing fan bases, ticket pricing and liaison with the local communities doing more to attract new supporters, City have started this very recently, but it's very early days and this will take time, the better the team does on the pitch and more importantly the better the club does off the pitch will see a slow return of hopefully a full stadium.

100% mucker!

Attendance improves with:
Attractive football
Winning
Togetherness between fans and management
Promotion
A shared identity

What's happened at CCS is virtually the opposite for many of the above. AND, you are SOOOOO RIGHT - other clubs haven't had the number of issues as CCFC. NOT BY A LONG CHALK.

It can turn around, but it will take time, effort and money.

When we appointed Malky the crowds didn't improve immediately.Who ever the new guy is he must be given a chance,even Trollope.

Appointing Trollope as Head Coach isn't going to improve those figures.

f*cking aint mate only get worse,I will be there though

We can only hope for a few decent signings (abiet inexpensive) and a positive pre season to get people up for it.

Take away past 5 glory years the last couple years at Ninian was only about 10/12k average! We've been spoilt past 5 years and it gives really false amounts, Our hardcore fan base is about 12k