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' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:54 am

' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Before you read all this,I have not totally given up on this season,but 4 wins from 5 is a tall order.

If as it seems likely Russell Slade gets a new contract for next season(2016-17) from Vincent Tan,for me then everything that happens from the first League game will be all down to one man Russell Slade.

In the 18months Slade has been Cardiff City's manager,he has had to virtually manage our team not knowing if any player could be sold the following day and has had to win the fans over more than Ive seen any other manager has had to do at Cardiff City in my time of supporting our club and when I mean win the fans over from day on, the majority including myself have not wanted him here and some,which has been out of order have verbally abused him and continually been negative towards him.
Not only that, the media have not helped at all,they've gone for him week after week.

Slades job this last 18 months was not only to manage the team,but to help balance the accounts.

Then to top it all this season,Slade has managed to get City to at least 7th in the Championship without any money.

Now many will argue that he has inherited a squad full of talent and yes he has,but also full of of players who were on big wages,but but were dividing the club behind the scenes and failing on the field.

The football under Slade was dire for his first 8 moths,but has improved vastly and our home record is up there with the best this season.

I have been very disaapointed in Slade regarding giving our youngsters a chance.

Slade has also signed about 16 players and only about 4 are guaranteed to play.

I thought we would be relegation candidates this season under Slade,even though we had a squad full of talent,Slade proved me wrong.

Would I have chosen Slade for next season,NO,but if he is here which looks likely,then I will be supporting Slade 100%,but it will all be 100% down to him.

I will say this though,next season,Slade now knows how Tan works,the fans expectations and still has a squad full of talent.


So for me its Top 6 at least next season, end off :ayatollah: :ayatollah:
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Re: ' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:54 am

Can't argue with any of that. I support Slade because we have made progression despite all the goings on at the football club. Next season should in theory be a clean slate and there should be a proper sustained push for the play-offs.

We have a talented squad but there is a gapping weakness in the forward department which needs to be addressed. It is hard to know much he will be backed but any resources he will have but anything available should go on strikers supplemented by Rhys Healey.

Re: ' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:09 am

One of the worries i have for next season is that I think that over the summer we will lose a number of our better players such as Marshall and Manga, maybe Pilkington and based on his signings so far I just don't think that Slade can identify the calibre of player we need to challenge at the top end of the Championship.

I think we may be starting next season with a weaker squad than we have this season making a promotion challenge even more difficult than it's been this season.

Just my opinion of course.

Re: ' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:11 am

I support our club and the manager regardless, but i don't want Slade as our manager next year.

This is as good as he is. He is old school, like Jones who rely on experience and old pro's rather than gamble on youth. I accept that a lot of our kids aren't good enough for a top 10 championship club, but we need to deal with this. We'll always be over run in the middle if we continue to use a 442 with flouncy wingers. We need a younger manager with fresher idea's (Malky when he started)

I love the idea of Bellers but he needs to find out if he has the minerals for the task at a lower level. I wanted a manager like Justin Edingburgh before Slade and i think we should be looking at a second or third season young manager, there are enough about.

We won't make it, the lack of a finisher will see to that. When you have a flat, those skinny spares do the job and get you home, but they are not your long term solution. Russ didn't realise that.

Re: ' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:32 am

Forever Blue wrote:' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Before you read all this,I have not totally given up on this season,but 4 wins from 5 is a tall order.

If as it seems likely Russell Slade gets a new contract for next season(2016-17) from Vincent Tan,for me then everything that happens from the first League game will be all down to one man Russell Slade.

In the 18months Slade has been Cardiff City's manager,he has had to virtually manage our team not knowing if any player could be sold the following day and has had to win the fans over more than Ive seen any other manager has had to do at Cardiff City in my time of supporting our club and when I mean win the fans over from day on, the majority including myself have not wanted him here and some,which has been out of order have verbally abused him and continually been negative towards him.
Not only that, the media have not helped at all,they've gone for him week after week.

Slades job this last 18 months was not only to manage the team,but to help balance the accounts
Then to top it all this season,Slade has managed to get City to at least 7th in the Championship without any money.

Now many will argue that he has inherited a squad full of talent and yes he has,but also full of of players who were on big wages,but but were dividing the club behind the scenes and failing on the field.

The football under Slade was dire for his first 8 moths,but has improved vastly and our home record is up there with the best this season.

I have been very disaapointed in Slade regarding giving our youngsters a chance.

Slade has also signed about 16 players and only about 4 are guaranteed to play.

I thought we would be relegation candidates this season under Slade,even though we had a squad full of talent,Slade proved me wrong.

Would I have chosen Slade for next season,NO,but if he is here which looks likely,then I will be supporting Slade 100%,but it will all be 100% down to him.

I will say this though,next season,Slade now knows how Tan works,the fans expectations and still has a squad full of talent.


So for me its Top 6 at least next season, end off :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


In total agreement with all of the above.
Slade deserves another year contract and top 6 is the target anything else is unacceptable :thumbup:

Re: ' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Sat Apr 16, 2016 11:22 am

HOW can u trust a man with money to buy players with a record like slade has got

Re: ' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:09 pm

He just doesn't have it and being a nice bloke gets you nowhere.

Being Blunt and Forthright is not being unkind!

Re: ' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:46 pm

HE has his normal little run of a few results THEN goes back to type The only reason we are in 7th is because it is a poor league

Re: ' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:40 pm

john52 wrote:HE has his normal little run of a few results THEN goes back to type The only reason we are in 7th is because it is a poor league


Also we haven't got a decent striker

Re: ' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:31 pm

I think we have now seen enough of RS to make a judgement on his ability as a manager at Championship level, and it's important to remember that this has been his "ONLY" full season at this level, which in my opinion is enough to tell us he can operate in the Championship.

If you consider the backdrop of what he has had to deal with, in particular reducing the wage bill, then 7th place is a remarkable result and well above anything I ever thought he would achieve. With another £10m reduction in PL parachute payments from next seasons revenue it is clear that the period of austerity is far from over at the club and in fairness to RS he has shown he can deal with that side of the business.

I cannot see VT throwing money at the playing squad anytime soon and it's against that backdrop that RS is looking to be a good safe pair of hands. OK at time the football lacks inventiveness, intensity and inspiration but we may have to accept that as a fact of life whilst "austerity" remains at the club.

In a few weeks we will all be able to reflect on a season which will sadly ultimately result in a very near miss on a playoff place but how different it could have been if we had a striker worthy of the name.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: ' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:38 pm

davids wrote:One of the worries i have for next season is that I think that over the summer we will lose a number of our better players such as Marshall and Manga, maybe Pilkington and based on his signings so far I just don't think that Slade can identify the calibre of player we need to challenge at the top end of the Championship.

I think we may be starting next season with a weaker squad than we have this season making a promotion challenge even more difficult than it's been this season.

Just my opinion of course.

That's the biggest factor imo also but fans will still expect more than this season otherwise the pitch folks will be out after five games :laughing6:

Re: ' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:54 pm

Russ's first game at home against forest, not sure what cost cutting has affected him

1 Marshall
2 Brayford -
5 Ecuele Manga
36 Morrison
21 Ralls
19 Pilkington
17 Gunnarsson
7 Whittingham
11 Noone
10 Le Fondre
14 Macheda

Substitutes
9Jones
12John
18Adeyemi
20Daehli
23Maynard - out of contract
33Moore
39Gabbidon - retired

Re: ' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:58 pm

llan bluebird wrote:Russ's first game at home against forest, not sure what cost cutting has affected him

1 Marshall
2 Brayford -
5 Ecuele Manga
36 Morrison
21 Ralls
19 Pilkington
17 Gunnarsson
7 Whittingham
11 Noone
10 Le Fondre
14 Macheda

Substitutes
9Jones
12John
18Adeyemi
20Daehli
23Maynard - out of contract
33Moore
39Gabbidon - retired


But what was the squad size? ;)

Re: ' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:59 pm

llan bluebird wrote:Russ's first game at home against forest, not sure what cost cutting has affected him

1 Marshall
2 Brayford -
5 Ecuele Manga
36 Morrison
21 Ralls
19 Pilkington
17 Gunnarsson
7 Whittingham
11 Noone
10 Le Fondre
14 Macheda

Substitutes
9Jones
12John
18Adeyemi
20Daehli
23Maynard - out of contract
33Moore
39Gabbidon - retired



Also had 74 league games plus cups and friendlies to get his game plan

Re: ' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:00 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:Russ's first game at home against forest, not sure what cost cutting has affected him

1 Marshall
2 Brayford -
5 Ecuele Manga
36 Morrison
21 Ralls
19 Pilkington
17 Gunnarsson
7 Whittingham
11 Noone
10 Le Fondre
14 Macheda

Substitutes
9Jones
12John
18Adeyemi
20Daehli
23Maynard - out of contract
33Moore
39Gabbidon - retired


But what was the squad size? ;)


You can only start with 11. He got rid of the no hopers not the starters !!!!

Re: ' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:48 pm

People keep on about Slades signings and shouldn't be giving money but he has not had any money all his signings have been cheap very cheap for a top half championship team.

The players he took on were all overpaid who wouldn't perform and what player has he got rid of is doing so well to be proven wrong? none.

I believe he could give the youngsters more of a chance but again with the supporters we have who would jump in and slag these kids off who do not play well in a game we lost I feel actually they are being dealt with right the last thing we want is any of the youngsters ruined in confidence.

Until Slade is giving real money you can not say he is rubbish in buying players as he has had no money yet to prove people wrong when he does we will see and hopefully Tan will give him some money for a big push next season.

Re: ' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:40 am

castleblue wrote:I think we have now seen enough of RS to make a judgement on his ability as a manager at Championship level, and it's important to remember that this has been his "ONLY" full season at this level, which in my opinion is enough to tell us he can operate in the Championship.

If you consider the backdrop of what he has had to deal with, in particular reducing the wage bill, then 7th place is a remarkable result and well above anything I ever thought he would achieve. With another £10m reduction in PL parachute payments from next seasons revenue it is clear that the period of austerity is far from over at the club and in fairness to RS he has shown he can deal with that side of the business.

I cannot see VT throwing money at the playing squad anytime soon and it's against that backdrop that RS is looking to be a good safe pair of hands. OK at time the football lacks inventiveness, intensity and inspiration but we may have to accept that as a fact of life whilst "austerity" remains at the club.

In a few weeks we will all be able to reflect on a season which will sadly ultimately result in a very near miss on a playoff place but how different it could have been if we had a striker worthy of the name.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


:thumbup:

Re: ' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:49 am

valleyrambill wrote:People keep on about Slades signings and shouldn't be giving money but he has not had any money all his signings have been cheap very cheap for a top half championship team.

The players he took on were all overpaid who wouldn't perform and what player has he got rid of is doing so well to be proven wrong? none.

I believe he could give the youngsters more of a chance but again with the supporters we have who would jump in and slag these kids off who do not play well in a game we lost I feel actually they are being dealt with right the last thing we want is any of the youngsters ruined in confidence.

Until Slade is giving real money you can not say he is rubbish in buying players as he has had no money yet to prove people wrong when he does we will see and hopefully Tan will give him some money for a big push next season.


Excellent point. Slade's duff striker signing was Alex Revell (cost £100,000) Malky McKay's duff striker was Andreas Cornelius (cost £7,500,000) and IMO there was little difference in their playing quality or impact at CCFC.

However, MM is still seen as a success whilst Slade is slammed despite the difference in cost being a staggering £7.4M :shock:

Of course both MM and Slade have had successful signings and it is often overlooked that Lex & O'Keefe (the 2 successes of this season) were Slade signings and both were brought in at minimal cost.

Due to the massive reduction in the wage bill during the course of this season there might be some money available to Slade this summer. How he spends it will be vital.

Re: ' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:54 am

llan bluebird wrote:Russ's first game at home against forest, not sure what cost cutting has affected him

1 Marshall
2 Brayford -
5 Ecuele Manga
36 Morrison
21 Ralls
19 Pilkington
17 Gunnarsson
7 Whittingham
11 Noone
10 Le Fondre
14 Macheda

Substitutes
9Jones
12John
18Adeyemi
20Daehli
23Maynard - out of contract
33Moore
39Gabbidon - retired


Even though they are technically still Cardiff players Le Fondre & Macheda have due to various reasons not been available to RS for the most part this season. It is safe to say that our Achilles heel this season has been the lack of a decent striker to convert the good approach work into goals.

Re: ' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:02 am

davids wrote:One of the worries i have for next season is that I think that over the summer we will lose a number of our better players such as Marshall and Manga, maybe Pilkington and based on his signings so far I just don't think that Slade can identify the calibre of player we need to challenge at the top end of the Championship.

I think we may be starting next season with a weaker squad than we have this season making a promotion challenge even more difficult than it's been this season.

Just my opinion of course.


Have to agree with you mate my greatest concern with SLADE is his inability to identify and use a striker, his biggest failing Doyle, cost around a million SLADE signed him and just wasted the money , Saidi and Zahore are further examples of his inability to use strikers in his system, its also sad that he has failed to give Healey a chance, when clubs in the Premiership are bringing in teenage strikers, they have no fear, and are not weighed down by fear of failure, I keep reading SLADE has hadno money that's untrue, he has brought in 16 players, they all need paying, why didn't he bring in 6 players instead, BETTER players, the reason as stated about strikers he just cannot recognise a good player ,must YES MUST BE BELLAMY FOR MANAGER NEXT SEASON !

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Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:08 am

Agree with it all apart from Slade would be my choice for manager next season. He's earned it.

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Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:09 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
valleyrambill wrote:People keep on about Slades signings and shouldn't be giving money but he has not had any money all his signings have been cheap very cheap for a top half championship team.

The players he took on were all overpaid who wouldn't perform and what player has he got rid of is doing so well to be proven wrong? none.

I believe he could give the youngsters more of a chance but again with the supporters we have who would jump in and slag these kids off who do not play well in a game we lost I feel actually they are being dealt with right the last thing we want is any of the youngsters ruined in confidence.

Until Slade is giving real money you can not say he is rubbish in buying players as he has had no money yet to prove people wrong when he does we will see and hopefully Tan will give him some money for a big push next season.


Excellent point. Slade's duff striker signing was Alex Revell (cost £100,000) Malky McKay's duff striker was Andreas Cornelius (cost £7,500,000) and IMO there was little difference in their playing quality or impact at CCFC.

However, MM is still seen as a success whilst Slade is slammed despite the difference in cost being a staggering £7.4M :shock:

Of course both MM and Slade have had successful signings and it is often overlooked that Lex & O'Keefe (the 2 successes of this season) were Slade signings and both were brought in at minimal cost.

Due to the massive reduction in the wage bill during the course of this season there might be some money available to Slade this summer. How he spends it will be vital.



Transfer and profit/loss are secondary to success. Malky first season we reached the play offs (from 8 senior pro's), second season champions.

End of comparisons.

I am not a Malky cheerleader, but i am struggling to think of a manager who has been kicking around for 20 odd seasons and never been promoted who then takes a team to the premier league.
Boro, Burnley have relatively young managers, Wednesday have an experienced overseas manager with Hull and Brighton have seasoned top tier managers. We need to fall into one of those categories.
1-Hungry fresh managers
2- Experienced overseas manager
3- Top tier premier/championship managers (expensive)

Re: ' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:13 am

riley1951 wrote:
davids wrote:One of the worries i have for next season is that I think that over the summer we will lose a number of our better players such as Marshall and Manga, maybe Pilkington and based on his signings so far I just don't think that Slade can identify the calibre of player we need to challenge at the top end of the Championship.

I think we may be starting next season with a weaker squad than we have this season making a promotion challenge even more difficult than it's been this season.

Just my opinion of course.


Have to agree with you mate my greatest concern with SLADE is his inability to identify and use a striker, his biggest failing Doyle, cost around a million SLADE signed him and just wasted the money , Saidi and Zahore are further examples of his inability to use strikers in his system, its also sad that he has failed to give Healey a chance, when clubs in the Premiership are bringing in teenage strikers, they have no fear, and are not weighed down by fear of failure, I keep reading SLADE has hadno money that's untrue, he has brought in 16 players, they all need paying, why didn't he bring in 6 players instead, BETTER players, the reason as stated about strikers he just cannot recognise a good player ,must YES MUST BE BELLAMY FOR MANAGER NEXT SEASON !


Saadi has been injured for 90% of the season so it's hardly Slade's fault he hasn't played. Also Saadi and Zohore were sticking plasters imposed on Slade due to the player embargo.

Ravell and Doyle were disappointments for sure but there combined loss would be about £1m whilst Malky wasted £10m on Andreas Cornelius & Peter Odemwingie both of who were no better than either of Slade's signings. The bottom line is managers do make mistakes when signing players and that won't be solved by sacking Slade and replacing him with another manager.

Re: ' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:26 am

llan bluebird wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
valleyrambill wrote:People keep on about Slades signings and shouldn't be giving money but he has not had any money all his signings have been cheap very cheap for a top half championship team.

The players he took on were all overpaid who wouldn't perform and what player has he got rid of is doing so well to be proven wrong? none.

I believe he could give the youngsters more of a chance but again with the supporters we have who would jump in and slag these kids off who do not play well in a game we lost I feel actually they are being dealt with right the last thing we want is any of the youngsters ruined in confidence.

Until Slade is giving real money you can not say he is rubbish in buying players as he has had no money yet to prove people wrong when he does we will see and hopefully Tan will give him some money for a big push next season.


Excellent point. Slade's duff striker signing was Alex Revell (cost £100,000) Malky McKay's duff striker was Andreas Cornelius (cost £7,500,000) and IMO there was little difference in their playing quality or impact at CCFC.

However, MM is still seen as a success whilst Slade is slammed despite the difference in cost being a staggering £7.4M :shock:

Of course both MM and Slade have had successful signings and it is often overlooked that Lex & O'Keefe (the 2 successes of this season) were Slade signings and both were brought in at minimal cost.

Due to the massive reduction in the wage bill during the course of this season there might be some money available to Slade this summer. How he spends it will be vital.



Transfer and profit/loss are secondary to success. Malky first season we reached the play offs (from 8 senior pro's), second season champions.

End of comparisons.

I am not a Malky cheerleader, but i am struggling to think of a manager who has been kicking around for 20 odd seasons and never been promoted who then takes a team to the premier league.
Boro, Burnley have relatively young managers, Wednesday have an experienced overseas manager with Hull and Brighton have seasoned top tier managers. We need to fall into one of those categories.
1-Hungry fresh managers
2- Experienced overseas manager
3- Top tier premier/championship managers (expensive)


Malky did very well in his first season but also received more financial backing than Slade has this season and didn't have to deal with costing cutting and a player embargo. Also we limped over the line in 6th that season one place above where Slade should finish this season in 7th. The promotion season MM received substantial financial backing. As we have seen this season with Middlesbrough and Burnley that makes a huge difference.

The comparisons are relevant because there is no season where clubs all start on a level playing field. Finance is not secondary to success indeed it is a vital element in all but a small amount of cases.

Slade is basically at the point MM was in 2012 where he now has had his first full season, shifted the dead wood and stamped his signature on the team. I'm sure he knows that we have a good core of players but lack that cynical striker to add the finishing touch to our good approach work. This summer he needs to address that

Re: ' THEN HE CAN REALLY BE JUDGED/SO NO EXCUSES '

Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:06 am

riley1951 wrote:
davids wrote:One of the worries i have for next season is that I think that over the summer we will lose a number of our better players such as Marshall and Manga, maybe Pilkington and based on his signings so far I just don't think that Slade can identify the calibre of player we need to challenge at the top end of the Championship.

I think we may be starting next season with a weaker squad than we have this season making a promotion challenge even more difficult than it's been this season.

Just my opinion of course.


Have to agree with you mate my greatest concern with SLADE is his inability to identify and use a striker, his biggest failing Doyle, cost around a million SLADE signed him and just wasted the money , Saidi and Zahore are further examples of his inability to use strikers in his system, its also sad that he has failed to give Healey a chance, when clubs in the Premiership are bringing in teenage strikers, they have no fear, and are not weighed down by fear of failure, I keep reading SLADE has hadno money that's untrue, he has brought in 16 players, they all need paying, why didn't he bring in 6 players instead, BETTER players, the reason as stated about strikers he just cannot recognise a good player ,must YES MUST BE BELLAMY FOR MANAGER NEXT SEASON !

Bit harsh to say Slade wasted 1m on Doyle, at the time of us signing him he was the highest scorer in English football. As for his 16 signings:
Malone, 100k, minimal wages, regular starter
Revell, undisc, minimal wages, sold him for a small fee
Peltier, nominal fee, minimal wages, regular starter
O'Keefe, nominal fee, minimal wages, regular started
Kennedy, small fee, minimal wages, in my opinion I think Everton told us we had to sign Kennedy to get McAleny on loan
McAleny, loan, 2 goals in 8 games in a season where we didn't have any prolific scorer, not bad.
Ajeyi, free, minimal wages, been sent out on loan and played DVP games
Doyle, 1m, 7k a week max, was on fire with Chesterfield, as I stated above, worth the risk (5 goals in 16 games)
Tamas, free, 7k a week max, brought in when we were suffering a centre back crisis (Manga was injured, as were Turner and Connolly wasn't fully fit), yes it's fair to say he's been a flop.
Saadi, 2m (I believe), 10k a week ish, came to us injured and suffered a hamstring injury on his debut, came back from this injury when we demolished Brighton at home and Pilkington had a blinder.
Weymans, free, insignificant wages, youngster
Blaise, free, insignificant wages, youngster
Ameobi, loan, not been great but that was rather unexpected

This winter:
Immers, loan, 10k a week, transformed our season
Zohore, loan, 5k a week, hasn't looked awful and I'd like to see him start a game
Lawrence, loan, 5k a week, has looked good but hasn't been clinical enough

So, the money side of it, Slade spent approximately 4.6m on those 16 players. Yeah Slade has received loads!

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Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:25 pm

NyeBluebird wrote:
riley1951 wrote:
davids wrote:One of the worries i have for next season is that I think that over the summer we will lose a number of our better players such as Marshall and Manga, maybe Pilkington and based on his signings so far I just don't think that Slade can identify the calibre of player we need to challenge at the top end of the Championship.

I think we may be starting next season with a weaker squad than we have this season making a promotion challenge even more difficult than it's been this season.

Just my opinion of course.


Have to agree with you mate my greatest concern with SLADE is his inability to identify and use a striker, his biggest failing Doyle, cost around a million SLADE signed him and just wasted the money , Saidi and Zahore are further examples of his inability to use strikers in his system, its also sad that he has failed to give Healey a chance, when clubs in the Premiership are bringing in teenage strikers, they have no fear, and are not weighed down by fear of failure, I keep reading SLADE has hadno money that's untrue, he has brought in 16 players, they all need paying, why didn't he bring in 6 players instead, BETTER players, the reason as stated about strikers he just cannot recognise a good player ,must YES MUST BE BELLAMY FOR MANAGER NEXT SEASON !

Bit harsh to say Slade wasted 1m on Doyle, at the time of us signing him he was the highest scorer in English football. As for his 16 signings:
Malone, 100k, minimal wages, regular starter
Revell, undisc, minimal wages, sold him for a small fee
Peltier, nominal fee, minimal wages, regular starter
O'Keefe, nominal fee, minimal wages, regular started
Kennedy, small fee, minimal wages, in my opinion I think Everton told us we had to sign Kennedy to get McAleny on loan
McAleny, loan, 2 goals in 8 games in a season where we didn't have any prolific scorer, not bad.
Ajeyi, free, minimal wages, been sent out on loan and played DVP games
Doyle, 1m, 7k a week max, was on fire with Chesterfield, as I stated above, worth the risk (5 goals in 16 games)
Tamas, free, 7k a week max, brought in when we were suffering a centre back crisis (Manga was injured, as were Turner and Connolly wasn't fully fit), yes it's fair to say he's been a flop.
Saadi, 2m (I believe), 10k a week ish, came to us injured and suffered a hamstring injury on his debut, came back from this injury when we demolished Brighton at home and Pilkington had a blinder.
Weymans, free, insignificant wages, youngster
Blaise, free, insignificant wages, youngster
Ameobi, loan, not been great but that was rather unexpected

This winter:
Immers, loan, 10k a week, transformed our season
Zohore, loan, 5k a week, hasn't looked awful and I'd like to see him start a game
Lawrence, loan, 5k a week, has looked good but hasn't been clinical enough

So, the money side of it, Slade spent approximately 4.6m on those 16 players. Yeah Slade has received loads!

So your citys accountant :laughing6: