Thinking of voting UKIP?

I don't speak Welsh.

Plaids views are too left.

Plaid had thelr website built by a firm from the USA.

It's a complete myth that one must be able to speak Welsh to vote for Plaid.

Too left? Wales is left-leaning nation.

Website built by an American firm? Wow. So what?

Can't fathom why anyone would vote UKIP

Farage is a Tory through and through doesn't care one bit for Wales and their entire existence is built on the scaremongering of immigration and the promise to leave the EU, they have nothing else to offer this country other than border control

I don't believe there is any party out there right now that should get a vote all a useless bunch of money grabbing tossers

Doesn't care for Wales how did you come to that conclusion ? You have read there policies in general ? Think u out need to do some research

They don't give a f**k about Wales, a blind man could see that! Mark Reckless, a man with absolutely no connection with Wales, has been selected to stand as a regional candidate and is likely to be elected in May. That's what UKIP think of Wales.

Can't fathom why anyone would vote UKIP

Farage is a Tory through and through doesn't care one bit for Wales and their entire existence is built on the scaremongering of immigration and the promise to leave the EU, they have nothing else to offer this country other than border control

I don't believe there is any party out there right now that should get a vote all a useless bunch of money grabbing tossers

Doesn't care for Wales how did you come to that conclusion ? You have read there policies in general ? Think u out need to do some research

They don't give a f**k about Wales, a blind man could see that! Mark Reckless, a man with absolutely no connection with Wales, has been selected to stand as a regional candidate and is likely to be elected in May. That's what UKIP think of Wales.

Still haven't answered the question have you ? Only an idiot would vote Plaid,leanne wood is a buffoon,Plaid want away from Westminster but want to be run be Brussels sad that

I don't speak Welsh.

Plaids views are too left.

Plaid had thelr website built by a firm from the USA.

It's a complete myth that one must be able to speak Welsh to vote for Plaid.

Too left? Wales is left-leaning nation.

Website built by an American firm? Wow. So what?

Agree but you say UKIP don't give a f**k about Wales (completely untrue) but the perception from many is that Plaid don't give a f**k about non welsh speakers. All their seats are in rural Welsh speaking areas, hardly diverse is it.

So what, I ain't left wing. Not against Independence and would vote Plaid if they weren't a bunch of socialist hippies. They are so left wing it alienates me.

Proud to be Welsh? Have a bunch of Americans do the website and then have the audacity to moan about the lack of job creation in Wales

I don't speak Welsh.

Plaids views are too left.

Plaid had thelr website built by a firm from the USA.

It's a complete myth that one must be able to speak Welsh to vote for Plaid.

Too left? Wales is left-leaning nation.

Website built by an American firm? Wow. So what?

Agree but you say UKIP don't give a f**k about Wales (completely untrue) but the perception from many is that Plaid don't give a f**k about non welsh speakers. All their seats are in rural Welsh speaking areas, hardly diverse is it.

So what, I ain't left wing. Not against Independence and would vote Plaid if they weren't a bunch of socialist hippies. They are so left wing it alienates me.

Proud to be Welsh? Have a bunch of Americans do the website and then have the audacity to moan about the lack of job creation in Wales

Top post I would like independence but not to cosy up to bloody Brussels instead Plaid are useless

vote ukip and kick these fukin imigranst out way to many where i live now and its psiling the area years of other politcans letting immigrants in and givin them houses and mony and evrything they fuking want as destoued allot of cardiff hope we leave the eu too ukip seem the onl party who seem to giv a fuk about local people and nto jus imigrants coming here for benefitd

vote ukip and kick these fukin imigranst out way to many where i live now and its psiling the area years of other politcans letting immigrants in and givin them houses and mony and evrything they fuking want as destoued allot of cardiff hope we leave the eu too ukip seem the onl party who seem to giv a fuk about local people and nto jus imigrants coming here for benefitd

Can you repeat that? Didn't understand a word.

vote ukip and kick these fukin imigranst out way to many where i live now and its psiling the area years of other politcans letting immigrants in and givin them houses and mony and evrything they fuking want as destoued allot of cardiff hope we leave the eu too ukip seem the onl party who seem to giv a fuk about local people and nto jus imigrants coming here for benefitd

Can you repeat that? Didn't understand a word.

vote ukip and kick these fukin imigranst out way to many where i live now and its psiling the area years of other politcans letting immigrants in and givin them houses and mony and evrything they fuking want as destoued allot of cardiff hope we leave the eu too ukip seem the onl party who seem to giv a fuk about local people and nto jus imigrants coming here for benefitd

Can you repeat that? Didn't understand a word.

He's speaking Welsh.

vote ukip and kick these fukin imigranst out way to many where i live now and its psiling the area years of other politcans letting immigrants in and givin them houses and mony and evrything they fuking want as destoued allot of cardiff hope we leave the eu too ukip seem the onl party who seem to giv a fuk about local people and nto jus imigrants coming here for benefitd

Can you repeat that? Didn't understand a word.

He's speaking Welsh.

Chwarae teg

vote ukip and kick these fukin imigranst out way to many where i live now and its psiling the area years of other politcans letting immigrants in and givin them houses and mony and evrything they fuking want as destoued allot of cardiff hope we leave the eu too ukip seem the onl party who seem to giv a fuk about local people and nto jus imigrants coming here for benefitd

Can you repeat that? Didn't understand a word.

He's speaking Welsh.

Chwarae teg

I want to know what "fukin imigranst" are and what does "destoued allot of cardiff" mean.

vote ukip and kick these fukin imigranst out way to many where i live now and its psiling the area years of other politcans letting immigrants in and givin them houses and mony and evrything they fuking want as destoued allot of cardiff hope we leave the eu too ukip seem the onl party who seem to giv a fuk about local people and nto jus imigrants coming here for benefitd

You are really not helping the argument that supporters of UKIP are not thick with this post are you?

vote ukip and kick these fukin imigranst out way to many where i live now and its psiling the area years of other politcans letting immigrants in and givin them houses and mony and evrything they fuking want as destoued allot of cardiff hope we leave the eu too ukip seem the onl party who seem to giv a fuk about local people and nto jus imigrants coming here for benefitd

You are really not helping the argument that supporters of UKIP are not thick with this post are you?

Could this be Roathie trying to fool us all?

I did not say anyone is thick if they vote UKIP. However, when people say "I don't care about their policies, I 'll vote for them because I'm scared of immigrants", it is difficult to argue that you aren't thick.

Trust me, UKIP policies are much more damaging to you than a Polish lady who has come over here to train as a chef and send money back to her parents.

Fact is, the typical UKIP voter profile is: less educated, white, male, above 40 and poorer than average.

They are angry because life hasn't worked out for them. The irony is that they misplace that anger and put their faith in a party of elites who will enact policies that will suck their own voters deeper in the mire. They are wolves in sheep's clothing

However, a UKIP voter won’t notice because all they care about is hating people who speak a different language to them, or eat different types of food. It is classic divide and rule, look at them so you don’t notice me robbing you blind.

UKIP appeals to angry men because they are negative. They are anti-everything and offer no positive vision of the future (mainly because they harken back to the fifties when everything was perfect *he rolls his eyes in disbelief*. They play to your fears and UKIP voters are stupid enough to fall for it

That irony is doubled when it is Welsh people who fall for it. The party elites are London are pissing themselves laughing at your naivety.

Secondly, you think bringing power back to Westminster will help Wales? If so, you just do not know you're history. Westminster has been bending Wales over for the last 150 years. Whether coal, the Welsh language or water, they have treated us with utter contempt. Think that is all ancient history? Then look at the UK Government putting Chinese interests above those at Port Talbot. Where was the minister in charge when the announcement broke? In Australia with his daughter on our dime.

You might say that bringing power back to Britain is better, but Britain just means England. Proof? When people say the UK gets a bad deal from Europe, they mean England. Wales actually benefits the most from Europe. I’m not saying the EU is great, but to say it is all bad is just parroting propaganda. Sorry to break this to you but the world is not black or white like UKIP say, but complex and many shades of grey.

Fact is, just like the London Government, the London parties will always treat people in Wales as an afterthought. Why? because they are based in the South- East and that is where the money and the most constituents are. UKIP, Labour and the Tories will always put the English first- more so UKIP as they send their Tory rejects here (even though the good people of Rochester or wherever rejected them). Not good enough for them, but good enough for Wales ay.

There is one Welsh party not head-quartered in England and we all know who it is. There is one party who will put the needs of everyone (including non-Welsh speakers, seriously update your opinions, it is no longer 50s) in Wales first. We need a strong Welsh Government that will put Welsh businesses, Welsh workers first. Not a government that won’t devolve air passenger duty because they don’t want to upset the board at Bristol Airport (some of whom went to the same school as half the cabinet).

The Scots have seen the light.

For the record, I don’t believe in Welsh independence. I believe in this incredible situation where all four nations respect each other by having equal powers, but remaining a union (it is called federalism, look it up).

All I is that you spend ten minutes researching the parties before you vote as UKIP thrive on a low knowledge base

Then treat the EU referendum as something different

vote ukip and kick these fukin imigranst out way to many where i live now and its psiling the area years of other politcans letting immigrants in and givin them houses and mony and evrything they fuking want as destoued allot of cardiff hope we leave the eu too ukip seem the onl party who seem to giv a fuk about local people and nto jus imigrants coming here for benefitd

You are really not helping the argument that supporters of UKIP are not thick with this post are you?

Could this be Roathie trying to fool us all?

You are obsessed with Roathie. It's hilarious how much of a grip that guy has on some here, as soon as some plank comes posting in here in whatever guise you come out with the Roathie accusations.

50% of new posters are labelled Roathie, the other 50% are probably him

I did not say anyone is thick if they vote UKIP. However, when people say "I don't care about their policies, I 'll vote for them because I'm scared of immigrants", it is difficult to argue that you aren't thick.

Trust me, UKIP policies are much more damaging to you than a Polish lady who has come over here to train as a chef and send money back to her parents.

Fact is, the typical UKIP voter profile is: less educated, white, male, above 40 and poorer than average.

They are angry because life hasn't worked out for them. The irony is that they misplace that anger and put their faith in a party of elites who will enact policies that will suck their own voters deeper in the mire. They are wolves in sheep's clothing

However, a UKIP voter won’t notice because all they care about is hating people who speak a different language to them, or eat different types of food. It is classic divide and rule, look at them so you don’t notice me robbing you blind.

UKIP appeals to angry men because they are negative. They are anti-everything and offer no positive vision of the future (mainly because they harken back to the fifties when everything was perfect *he rolls his eyes in disbelief*. They play to your fears and UKIP voters are stupid enough to fall for it

That irony is doubled when it is Welsh people who fall for it. The party elites are London are pissing themselves laughing at your naivety.

Secondly, you think bringing power back to Westminster will help Wales? If so, you just do not know you're history. Westminster has been bending Wales over for the last 150 years. Whether coal, the Welsh language or water, they have treated us with utter contempt. Think that is all ancient history? Then look at the UK Government putting Chinese interests above those at Port Talbot. Where was the minister in charge when the announcement broke? In Australia with his daughter on our dime.

You might say that bringing power back to Britain is better, but Britain just means England. Proof? When people say the UK gets a bad deal from Europe, they mean England. Wales actually benefits the most from Europe. I’m not saying the EU is great, but to say it is all bad is just parroting propaganda. Sorry to break this to you but the world is not black or white like UKIP say, but complex and many shades of grey.

Fact is, just like the London Government, the London parties will always treat people in Wales as an afterthought. Why? because they are based in the South- East and that is where the money and the most constituents are. UKIP, Labour and the Tories will always put the English first- more so UKIP as they send their Tory rejects here (even though the good people of Rochester or wherever rejected them). Not good enough for them, but good enough for Wales ay.

There is one Welsh party not head-quartered in England and we all know who it is. There is one party who will put the needs of everyone (including non-Welsh speakers, seriously update your opinions, it is no longer 50s) in Wales first. We need a strong Welsh Government that will put Welsh businesses, Welsh workers first. Not a government that won’t devolve air passenger duty because they don’t want to upset the board at Bristol Airport (some of whom went to the same school as half the cabinet).

The Scots have seen the light.

For the record, I don’t believe in Welsh independence. I believe in this incredible situation where all four nations respect each other by having equal powers, but remaining a union (it is called federalism, look it up).

All I is that you spend ten minutes researching the parties before you vote as UKIP thrive on a low knowledge base

Then treat the EU referendum as something different

This is your first post on the topic have you got multi s then

My mistake you were 2nd on the other page

I did not say anyone is thick if they vote UKIP. However, when people say "I don't care about their policies, I 'll vote for them because I'm scared of immigrants", it is difficult to argue that you aren't thick.

Agreed but not all UKIP voters vote for them because they hate immigrants. I have voted for them for a range of reasons including sensible right wing policies and finally given us a vote in something we have been denied a say in in decades. Without UKIPs rise we wouldn't be having this referendum in June, FACT.

Trust me, UKIP policies are much more damaging to you than a Polish lady who has come over here to train as a chef and send money back to her parents.

Any specific policies? It's not one polish lady it's hundreds of thousands of Eastern Europeans driving wages down and sending money back. They keep wages down as they will work for any money and pack 15 to a house. There's a house four doors up from me with at least 12 Eastern Europeans in it, minibus comes to pick them up every morning. Plaid Cymru claim to put Welsh people first then say they support large scale immigration from poor countries (but not England, definitely not England).

Fact is, the typical UKIP voter profile is: less educated, white, male, above 40 and poorer than average.

And do these people not have a say then? You snob. For the record I do not fit that profile at all apart from being white.

They are angry because life hasn't worked out for them. The irony is that they misplace that anger and put their faith in a party of elites who will enact policies that will suck their own voters deeper in the mire. They are wolves in sheep's clothing

Four million people voted UKIP in the last election and more people in Wales voted UKIP than Plaid. What a sweeping generalisation and complete nonsense. I could say the same about many Plaid voters who in my experience blame everything on English people, a country a lot of them hate.

However, a UKIP voter won’t notice because all they care about is hating people who speak a different language to them, or eat different types of food. It is classic divide and rule, look at them so you don’t notice me robbing you blind.

The irony is Saunders Lewis was a nazi sympathiser. In fact it's a fact that a lot of Plaid members during the war backed the Nazis.

UKIP appeals to angry men because they are negative. They are anti-everything and offer no positive vision of the future (mainly because they harken back to the fifties when everything was perfect *he rolls his eyes in disbelief*. They play to your fears and UKIP voters are stupid enough to fall for it

More bullshit. I am angry, I want to leave the EU something you would lock us all up for for being negative when you halfwits want to do the same with Wales leaving the UK. Also the 50s was a far from perfect time in history, in fact it was shite for most people (post war hangover).

That irony is doubled when it is Welsh people who fall for it. The party elites are London are pissing themselves laughing at your naivety.

Secondly, you think bringing power back to Westminster will help Wales? If so, you just do not know you're history. Westminster has been bending Wales over for the last 150 years. Whether coal, the Welsh language or water, they have treated us with utter contempt. Think that is all ancient history? Then look at the UK Government putting Chinese interests above those at Port Talbot. Where was the minister in charge when the announcement broke? In Australia with his daughter on our dime.

Finally some sense and I agree with a lot of this. However disagree with Port Talbot, the UK Government is not exclusively to blame. The EU and the senedd need to take a long hard look at themselves too. We can't save PT steelworks whilst remaining in the EU, ask the people who work there and they will tell you who is to blame and all fingers point to Brussels.

You might say that bringing power back to Britain is better, but Britain just means England. Proof? When people say the UK gets a bad deal from Europe, they mean England. Wales actually benefits the most from Europe. I’m not saying the EU is great, but to say it is all bad is just parroting propaganda. Sorry to break this to you but the world is not black or white like UKIP say, but complex and many shades of grey.

You are just parroting Plaid Cymru propaganda now you hypocritical muppet. Wales gets back what we put in but a little bit less. This funding isn't going to disappear when we leave the EU it comes from an extortionate membership fee that we tax payers must pay and then we are told by the likes of Plaid Cymru to be very grateful for when we get some back.

Fact is, just like the London Government, the London parties will always treat people in Wales as an afterthought. Why? because they are based in the South- East and that is where the money and the most constituents are. UKIP, Labour and the Tories will always put the English first- more so UKIP as they send their Tory rejects here (even though the good people of Rochester or wherever rejected them). Not good enough for them, but good enough for Wales ay.

Plaid Cymru seem to be treating Welsh people as an after thought too, they want to whore us out to Brussels and be subject to the treatment the Greeks had off them. Plaid Cymru love the EU despite the EU being incredibly right wing and business focused. The EU is absolutely everything they detest Westminster for and one day a socialist government in an independent Wales may get crushed by the EU like the Greeks were and subjected to at least 50 years of austerity against the will of the people.

Most UKIP support comes up North and you said earlier that most UKIP supporters are poor and thick. Not many of them in the South East you daft tw*t. Agree with Tory rejects, won't vote for anyone who hasn't lived in the constituency for at least 5 years.

There is one Welsh party not head-quartered in England and we all know who it is. There is one party who will put the needs of everyone (including non-Welsh speakers, seriously update your opinions, it is no longer 50s) in Wales first. We need a strong Welsh Government that will put Welsh businesses, Welsh workers first. Not a government that won’t devolve air passenger duty because they don’t want to upset the board at Bristol Airport (some of whom went to the same school as half the cabinet).

Pretty sure the Welsh Conservatives aren't headquartered in England or any other Welsh party for that matter. Plaid Cymru putting Welsh businesses and Welsh workers first? . Their website is built by Americans and they want to welcome every Tom, Marius and Mohamed to the country whilst selling out to Brussels, heard it all now. We need a Welsh Conservative government in the senedd, any but Labour who are way too comfortable.

The Scots have seen the light.

For the record, I don’t believe in Welsh independence. I believe in this incredible situation where all four nations respect each other by having equal powers, but remaining a union (it is called federalism, look it up).

I know what federalism is and I am a big supporter of it. However for that to happen an English parliament needs to be made and Westminster shrunk to no more than 200 MPs. It's a disgrace that Westminster is still the English parliament.

All I is that you spend ten minutes researching the parties before you vote as UKIP thrive on a low knowledge base. Then treat the EU referendum as something different

Condescending c**t.

Fact is, the typical UKIP voter profile is: less educated, white, male, above 40



The Scots have seen the light.

The Scots have seen the light My country is completely ruined because of the SNP. Had Scotland became independent they would be looking at a £15 billion budget gap, the Natzis refuse to acknowledge this but it is fact. Re your UKIP Voter education demographic, Google Scottish Resistance and tell me these bangers are well educated, they are the dregs of society who will remain social parasites regardless of Edinburgh, London or Brussels calling the shots.

I did not say anyone is thick if they vote UKIP. However, when people say "I don't care about their policies, I 'll vote for them because I'm scared of immigrants", it is difficult to argue that you aren't thick.

Agreed but not all UKIP voters vote for them because they hate immigrants. I have voted for them for a range of reasons including sensible right wing policies and finally given us a vote in something we have been denied a say in in decades. Without UKIPs rise we wouldn't be having this referendum in June, FACT.

Trust me, UKIP policies are much more damaging to you than a Polish lady who has come over here to train as a chef and send money back to her parents.

Any specific policies? It's not one polish lady it's hundreds of thousands of Eastern Europeans driving wages down and sending money back. They keep wages down as they will work for any money and pack 15 to a house. There's a house four doors up from me with at least 12 Eastern Europeans in it, minibus comes to pick them up every morning. Plaid Cymru claim to put Welsh people first then say they support large scale immigration from poor countries (but not England, definitely not England).

Fact is, the typical UKIP voter profile is: less educated, white, male, above 40 and poorer than average.

And do these people not have a say then? You snob. For the record I do not fit that profile at all apart from being white.

They are angry because life hasn't worked out for them. The irony is that they misplace that anger and put their faith in a party of elites who will enact policies that will suck their own voters deeper in the mire. They are wolves in sheep's clothing

Four million people voted UKIP in the last election and more people in Wales voted UKIP than Plaid. What a sweeping generalisation and complete nonsense. I could say the same about many Plaid voters who in my experience blame everything on English people, a country a lot of them hate.

However, a UKIP voter won’t notice because all they care about is hating people who speak a different language to them, or eat different types of food. It is classic divide and rule, look at them so you don’t notice me robbing you blind.

The irony is Saunders Lewis was a nazi sympathiser. In fact it's a fact that a lot of Plaid members during the war backed the Nazis.

UKIP appeals to angry men because they are negative. They are anti-everything and offer no positive vision of the future (mainly because they harken back to the fifties when everything was perfect *he rolls his eyes in disbelief*. They play to your fears and UKIP voters are stupid enough to fall for it

More bullshit. I am angry, I want to leave the EU something you would lock us all up for for being negative when you halfwits want to do the same with Wales leaving the UK. Also the 50s was a far from perfect time in history, in fact it was shite for most people (post war hangover).

That irony is doubled when it is Welsh people who fall for it. The party elites are London are pissing themselves laughing at your naivety.

Secondly, you think bringing power back to Westminster will help Wales? If so, you just do not know you're history. Westminster has been bending Wales over for the last 150 years. Whether coal, the Welsh language or water, they have treated us with utter contempt. Think that is all ancient history? Then look at the UK Government putting Chinese interests above those at Port Talbot. Where was the minister in charge when the announcement broke? In Australia with his daughter on our dime.

Finally some sense and I agree with a lot of this. However disagree with Port Talbot, the UK Government is not exclusively to blame. The EU and the senedd need to take a long hard look at themselves too. We can't save PT steelworks whilst remaining in the EU, ask the people who work there and they will tell you who is to blame and all fingers point to Brussels.

You might say that bringing power back to Britain is better, but Britain just means England. Proof? When people say the UK gets a bad deal from Europe, they mean England. Wales actually benefits the most from Europe. I’m not saying the EU is great, but to say it is all bad is just parroting propaganda. Sorry to break this to you but the world is not black or white like UKIP say, but complex and many shades of grey.

You are just parroting Plaid Cymru propaganda now you hypocritical muppet. Wales gets back what we put in but a little bit less. This funding isn't going to disappear when we leave the EU it comes from an extortionate membership fee that we tax payers must pay and then we are told by the likes of Plaid Cymru to be very grateful for when we get some back.

Fact is, just like the London Government, the London parties will always treat people in Wales as an afterthought. Why? because they are based in the South- East and that is where the money and the most constituents are. UKIP, Labour and the Tories will always put the English first- more so UKIP as they send their Tory rejects here (even though the good people of Rochester or wherever rejected them). Not good enough for them, but good enough for Wales ay.

Plaid Cymru seem to be treating Welsh people as an after thought too, they want to whore us out to Brussels and be subject to the treatment the Greeks had off them. Plaid Cymru love the EU despite the EU being incredibly right wing and business focused. The EU is absolutely everything they detest Westminster for and one day a socialist government in an independent Wales may get crushed by the EU like the Greeks were and subjected to at least 50 years of austerity against the will of the people.

Most UKIP support comes up North and you said earlier that most UKIP supporters are poor and thick. Not many of them in the South East you daft tw*t. Agree with Tory rejects, won't vote for anyone who hasn't lived in the constituency for at least 5 years.

There is one Welsh party not head-quartered in England and we all know who it is. There is one party who will put the needs of everyone (including non-Welsh speakers, seriously update your opinions, it is no longer 50s) in Wales first. We need a strong Welsh Government that will put Welsh businesses, Welsh workers first. Not a government that won’t devolve air passenger duty because they don’t want to upset the board at Bristol Airport (some of whom went to the same school as half the cabinet).

Pretty sure the Welsh Conservatives aren't headquartered in England or any other Welsh party for that matter. Plaid Cymru putting Welsh businesses and Welsh workers first? . Their website is built by Americans and they want to welcome every Tom, Marius and Mohamed to the country whilst selling out to Brussels, heard it all now. We need a Welsh Conservative government in the senedd, any but Labour who are way too comfortable.

The Scots have seen the light.

For the record, I don’t believe in Welsh independence. I believe in this incredible situation where all four nations respect each other by having equal powers, but remaining a union (it is called federalism, look it up).

I know what federalism is and I am a big supporter of it. However for that to happen an English parliament needs to be made and Westminster shrunk to no more than 200 MPs. It's a disgrace that Westminster is still the English parliament.

All I is that you spend ten minutes researching the parties before you vote as UKIP thrive on a low knowledge base. Then treat the EU referendum as something different

Condescending c**t.

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I did not say anyone is thick if they vote UKIP. However, when people say "I don't care about their policies, I 'll vote for them because I'm scared of immigrants", it is difficult to argue that you aren't thick.

Agreed but not all UKIP voters vote for them because they hate immigrants. I have voted for them for a range of reasons including sensible right wing policies and finally given us a vote in something we have been denied a say in in decades. Without UKIPs rise we wouldn't be having this referendum in June, FACT.

Trust me, UKIP policies are much more damaging to you than a Polish lady who has come over here to train as a chef and send money back to her parents.

Any specific policies? It's not one polish lady it's hundreds of thousands of Eastern Europeans driving wages down and sending money back. They keep wages down as they will work for any money and pack 15 to a house. There's a house four doors up from me with at least 12 Eastern Europeans in it, minibus comes to pick them up every morning. Plaid Cymru claim to put Welsh people first then say they support large scale immigration from poor countries (but not England, definitely not England).

Fact is, the typical UKIP voter profile is: less educated, white, male, above 40 and poorer than average.

And do these people not have a say then? You snob. For the record I do not fit that profile at all apart from being white.

They are angry because life hasn't worked out for them. The irony is that they misplace that anger and put their faith in a party of elites who will enact policies that will suck their own voters deeper in the mire. They are wolves in sheep's clothing

Four million people voted UKIP in the last election and more people in Wales voted UKIP than Plaid. What a sweeping generalisation and complete nonsense. I could say the same about many Plaid voters who in my experience blame everything on English people, a country a lot of them hate.

However, a UKIP voter won’t notice because all they care about is hating people who speak a different language to them, or eat different types of food. It is classic divide and rule, look at them so you don’t notice me robbing you blind.

The irony is Saunders Lewis was a nazi sympathiser. In fact it's a fact that a lot of Plaid members during the war backed the Nazis.

UKIP appeals to angry men because they are negative. They are anti-everything and offer no positive vision of the future (mainly because they harken back to the fifties when everything was perfect *he rolls his eyes in disbelief*. They play to your fears and UKIP voters are stupid enough to fall for it

More bullshit. I am angry, I want to leave the EU something you would lock us all up for for being negative when you halfwits want to do the same with Wales leaving the UK. Also the 50s was a far from perfect time in history, in fact it was shite for most people (post war hangover).

That irony is doubled when it is Welsh people who fall for it. The party elites are London are pissing themselves laughing at your naivety.

Secondly, you think bringing power back to Westminster will help Wales? If so, you just do not know you're history. Westminster has been bending Wales over for the last 150 years. Whether coal, the Welsh language or water, they have treated us with utter contempt. Think that is all ancient history? Then look at the UK Government putting Chinese interests above those at Port Talbot. Where was the minister in charge when the announcement broke? In Australia with his daughter on our dime.

Finally some sense and I agree with a lot of this. However disagree with Port Talbot, the UK Government is not exclusively to blame. The EU and the senedd need to take a long hard look at themselves too. We can't save PT steelworks whilst remaining in the EU, ask the people who work there and they will tell you who is to blame and all fingers point to Brussels.

You might say that bringing power back to Britain is better, but Britain just means England. Proof? When people say the UK gets a bad deal from Europe, they mean England. Wales actually benefits the most from Europe. I’m not saying the EU is great, but to say it is all bad is just parroting propaganda. Sorry to break this to you but the world is not black or white like UKIP say, but complex and many shades of grey.

You are just parroting Plaid Cymru propaganda now you hypocritical muppet. Wales gets back what we put in but a little bit less. This funding isn't going to disappear when we leave the EU it comes from an extortionate membership fee that we tax payers must pay and then we are told by the likes of Plaid Cymru to be very grateful for when we get some back.

Fact is, just like the London Government, the London parties will always treat people in Wales as an afterthought. Why? because they are based in the South- East and that is where the money and the most constituents are. UKIP, Labour and the Tories will always put the English first- more so UKIP as they send their Tory rejects here (even though the good people of Rochester or wherever rejected them). Not good enough for them, but good enough for Wales ay.

Plaid Cymru seem to be treating Welsh people as an after thought too, they want to whore us out to Brussels and be subject to the treatment the Greeks had off them. Plaid Cymru love the EU despite the EU being incredibly right wing and business focused. The EU is absolutely everything they detest Westminster for and one day a socialist government in an independent Wales may get crushed by the EU like the Greeks were and subjected to at least 50 years of austerity against the will of the people.

Most UKIP support comes up North and you said earlier that most UKIP supporters are poor and thick. Not many of them in the South East you daft tw*t. Agree with Tory rejects, won't vote for anyone who hasn't lived in the constituency for at least 5 years.

There is one Welsh party not head-quartered in England and we all know who it is. There is one party who will put the needs of everyone (including non-Welsh speakers, seriously update your opinions, it is no longer 50s) in Wales first. We need a strong Welsh Government that will put Welsh businesses, Welsh workers first. Not a government that won’t devolve air passenger duty because they don’t want to upset the board at Bristol Airport (some of whom went to the same school as half the cabinet).

Pretty sure the Welsh Conservatives aren't headquartered in England or any other Welsh party for that matter. Plaid Cymru putting Welsh businesses and Welsh workers first? . Their website is built by Americans and they want to welcome every Tom, Marius and Mohamed to the country whilst selling out to Brussels, heard it all now. We need a Welsh Conservative government in the senedd, any but Labour who are way too comfortable.

The Scots have seen the light.

For the record, I don’t believe in Welsh independence. I believe in this incredible situation where all four nations respect each other by having equal powers, but remaining a union (it is called federalism, look it up).

I know what federalism is and I am a big supporter of it. However for that to happen an English parliament needs to be made and Westminster shrunk to no more than 200 MPs. It's a disgrace that Westminster is still the English parliament.

All I is that you spend ten minutes researching the parties before you vote as UKIP thrive on a low knowledge base. Then treat the EU referendum as something different

Condescending c**t.

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What an absolutely pointless post that is

I've never voted UKIP but wouldn't rule it out, they are not an anti immigration party they oppose open door uncontrolled immigration. We should be implementing an Austrailian style points system to ensure we get the best people for the vacancies we, as a country need filled, we need more plumbers, brickies, nurses, engineers and scientists we don't need more Big Issue sellers or scrap metal collectors.

I've never voted UKIP but wouldn't rule it out, they are not an anti immigration party they oppose open door uncontrolled immigration. We should be implementing an Austrailian style points system to ensure we get the best people for the vacancies we, as a country need filled, we need more plumbers, brickies, nurses, engineers and scientists we don't need more Big Issue sellers or scrap metal collectors.

Exactly Jock

I'm voting Tory this may but may change one vote to UKIP just to piss people off. I very much doubt i'll vote for UKIP again after that. As I have already alluded to, I only voted for UKIP to push our politicians to give us a vote on our membership of the EU.

SNP are making Scotland look a joke, with Nicola Sturgeon requesting the UK take more refugees. Nicola Sturgeon has also talked about increasing taxes to 50% for high earners. All the high earners and businesses will leave Scotland and move to England.

These are the type of things Plaid Cymru talk about.

SNP are making Scotland look a joke, with Nicola Sturgeon requesting the UK take more refugees. Nicola Sturgeon has also talked about increasing taxes to 50% for high earners. All the high earners and businesses will leave Scotland and move to England.

These are the type of things Plaid Cymru talk about.

Most of Scottish people don't want to be in the eu the fact is that Scotland voted no to leave the uk also that they would be bankrupt now due to the fall of the price of oil if they voted yes

SNP are making Scotland look a joke, with Nicola Sturgeon requesting the UK take more refugees. Nicola Sturgeon has also talked about increasing taxes to 50% for high earners. All the high earners and businesses will leave Scotland and move to England.

These are the type of things Plaid Cymru talk about.

Most of Scottish people don't want to be in the eu the fact is that Scotland voted no to leave the uk also that they would be bankrupt now due to the fall of the price of oil if they voted yes

Polls I've seen say most Scots want to stay in the EU (the same pollsters who told us the Tories wouldn't win the last election) and Sturgeon has stated that if Scotland votes to remain and the U.K. Votes Brexit then another referendum will be called, she's talking bollox but that's the angle she's working. Believe me Scotland is not a happy country, the Natz have completely divided it. As for taking more immigrants Govanhill is in Sturgeons constituency and the Roma have completely destroyed it, a once decent area is now a ghettoe filthy streets and not safe to walk. Parts of Wales will end up the same if inward migration continues unabated.

SNP are making Scotland look a joke, with Nicola Sturgeon requesting the UK take more refugees. Nicola Sturgeon has also talked about increasing taxes to 50% for high earners. All the high earners and businesses will leave Scotland and move to England.

These are the type of things Plaid Cymru talk about.

Most of Scottish people don't want to be in the eu the fact is that Scotland voted no to leave the uk also that they would be bankrupt now due to the fall of the price of oil if they voted yes

Polls I've seen say most Scots want to stay in the EU (the same pollsters who told us the Tories wouldn't win the last election) and Sturgeon has stated that if Scotland votes to remain and the U.K. Votes Brexit then another referendum will be called, she's talking bollox but that's the angle she's working. Believe me Scotland is not a happy country, the Natz have completely divided it. As for taking more immigrants Govanhill is in Sturgeons constituency and the Roma have completely destroyed it, a once decent area is now a ghettoe filthy streets and not safe to walk. Parts of Wales will end up the same if inward migration continues unabated.

I've seen a few polls and the Scots want out but that's polls ,I think they will lose an other referendum due to the economy the SNP based a lot on the north Sea which is now in disarray,I would like to be out of the eu but with more power locally including a English assembly with only the main areas in Westminster in defence etc

SNP are making Scotland look a joke, with Nicola Sturgeon requesting the UK take more refugees. Nicola Sturgeon has also talked about increasing taxes to 50% for high earners. All the high earners and businesses will leave Scotland and move to England.

These are the type of things Plaid Cymru talk about.

Are they? When did they say them?

SNP are making Scotland look a joke, with Nicola Sturgeon requesting the UK take more refugees. Nicola Sturgeon has also talked about increasing taxes to 50% for high earners. All the high earners and businesses will leave Scotland and move to England.

These are the type of things Plaid Cymru talk about.

Most of Scottish people don't want to be in the eu the fact is that Scotland voted no to leave the uk also that they would be bankrupt now due to the fall of the price of oil if they voted yes

Don't they? So why do the opinion polls consistently show that they DO want to remain in the EU?