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' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:05 pm

After we recently covered every player in our squad on this forum recently, it got me thinking that should certain players be subjects of bids or even sold, I wondered what players I would allow to leave that I believe would not have the biggest negative effect on the squad.

I have named a team below that I fully expect every reply will have at least one disagreement with me.

The inclusion of Simon Moore, Declan John and Kenwyne Jones, I fully expect to receive the biggest debate.

The team I have named is purely based on players we have and not anyone who we are linked with or someone I would like to see join us.

Obviously there will be movement, in and out, during the transfer window but I wanted to focus on those who are here and out of those players who I think offer the most to the team.

I would like to see us focus more on youth than we have previously and that is behind the inclusion of John, Ralls, Kennedy and Mason.

With cost cutting still on the agenda, I believe keeping our talented younger players is essential but we still need a good mix of experience in the team to hopefully give us a better chance next season than go all out with youth.

I believe, if an acceptable bid for Marshall is received and accepted then he deserves to be playing at a higher level than he is with us at present and I would thank him for his service and allow Moore the chance to be our number one keeper for the foreseeable future.

Turner and Manga are two rocks I would hope we have as centre halves next season and pray we can hold on to Manga.

Peltier has proved to be a good acquisition and would keep his place for me.

Declan John is Welsh and young enough to learn his trade in a team with the experience of Turner to guide him.

Midfield has to have creativity and I think Kennedy and Ralls will provide drive and energy to a stagnant midfield, which I also believe has been problematic for a number of years for City.

Gunnarrson provides the experience in the centre and Pilkington is more than an able winger, again someone who I feel would help John on the left hand side.

Kenwyne Jones is perhaps the most controversial inclusion, high wages and labeled 'lazy' by many fans, he is our top scorer and I genuinely feel he is still the best we have in our squad to provide the bustle and goals as well as a defensive asset when defending set pieces.

Joe Mason as the fox in and around the box playing off Jones, would score goals if given a run of games.

My team based on what I have written above would be :

Simon Moore

Lee Peltier
Bruno Manga
Ben Turner
Declan John

Matty Kennedy
Aron Gunnarrson
Joe Ralls
Anthony Pilkington

Kenwyne Jones
Joe Mason


Subs

Joe Lewis
Matthew Connolly
Fabio
Tom Adeyemi
Peter Whittingham
Eoin Doyle
Kadeem Harris

I would sell Marshall, Morrison, Noone from players who were regulars last season.

Dikgacoi is a player that if he can regain his fitness is someone who should not only be challenging Adeyemi for a sub spot but also gunning for Gunnarrson's place in the starting eleven.

I am not a fan of Malone and as a result is the only reason I have included Fabio, otherwise the Brazilian would be heading out the exit but Fabio offers more versatility so therefore remains.

Revell and Macheda are two others who, for me anyway, don't offer enough to be included in the match day squad.

As I said above, I doubt many, if anyone, agrees with my choices but it is all about opinions.

What 11 would you start with and what reasons for their inclusion ?

And why would you drop others or even sell ?

Re: ' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:13 pm

Jeezus I wouldn't like me to watch that team noooo pace whatsoever must be the 2 slowest strikers ever

Re: ' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:19 pm

------------------Moore-------------------

Peltier------Connelly -------manga-----John--

------------------adeymei----------------

--Pilkington----------------------ralls----------

-------------------whitts----------------------

---------------------mason------------------

-------------------Doyle -------------------.

Our team will look a lot different come August , hopefully with some good new players

Re: ' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:24 pm

DIKGACOI for adeymei if he's fit ..

Re: ' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:28 pm

DEANO wrote:Jeezus I wouldn't like me to watch that team noooo pace whatsoever must be the 2 slowest strikers ever

What team would you go for ?

Re: ' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:29 pm

scooby1973 wrote:------------------Moore-------------------

Peltier------Connelly -------manga-----John--

------------------adeymei----------------

--Pilkington----------------------ralls----------

-------------------whitts----------------------

---------------------mason------------------

-------------------Doyle -------------------.

Our team will look a lot different come August , hopefully with some good new players

Definitely it will look very different Rob, interesting line up though :thumbup:

Re: ' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:30 pm

'Efing hell you must really want Slade to fail if thats the team you eant to see starting regular next season, Moore isn't good enough to be in a team that wants Premier football, Jones doesn't want to be hear (Club/Championship) so will move on.
GK/ Marshall. RB/ Fabio. CB/ Turner-Manga. LB/ John (As long as he is willing to attack and defend). CM/ Gunnarson/Diki (Holding) Ralls (Roaming - Does all the running) Whittingham (Attacking Playmaker) RW/ Kennedy. LW/ Pilkington. ST/ Mason/Doyle/Alfie (Can't decide between them) away from home I'd play a wide 442, Gunnarson/Diki with Ralls in the middle and Alfie and Mason unfront

Re: ' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:33 pm

carlccfc wrote:
scooby1973 wrote:------------------Moore-------------------

Peltier------Connelly -------manga-----John--

------------------adeymei----------------

--Pilkington----------------------ralls----------

-------------------whitts----------------------

---------------------mason------------------

-------------------Doyle -------------------.

Our team will look a lot different come August , hopefully with some good new players

Definitely it will look very different Rob, interesting line up though :thumbup:


I agree Carl, I can't wait to see some new signings , but I hope we get some real quality in..

Re: ' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:37 pm

TheRealB wrote:'Efing hell you must really want Slade to fail if thats the team you eant to see starting regular next season, Moore isn't good enough to be in a team that wants Premier football, Jones doesn't want to be hear (Club/Championship) so will move on.
GK/ Marshall. RB/ Fabio. CB/ Turner-Manga. LB/ John (As long as he is willing to attack and defend). CM/ Gunnarson/Diki (Holding) Ralls (Roaming - Does all the running) Whittingham (Attacking Playmaker) RW/ Kennedy. LW/ Pilkington. ST/ Mason/Doyle/Alfie (Can't decide between them) away from home I'd play a wide 442, Gunnarson/Diki with Ralls in the middle and Alfie and Mason unfront

:lol:

I don't want Slade to fail :lol:

I disagree wholeheartedly about Moore and if Jones scored 13 goals bring in and out of a side that you believe he doesn't be at, then it gives me more reason that we should convince him we are the right club for him and make him believe he is a wanted man and our main striker.

Would score 20 goals playing a full season in this league.

Re: ' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:52 pm

Marshall

Fabio
Manga
Morrison
Malone or KTC if he stays

Noone
Gunnarson and make him captain
Whittingham
Dickagoi
Pilkington

Jones if he stays

Re: ' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Mon Jun 08, 2015 7:03 pm

As it stands with the players we've got:

4411

Marshall

Peltier
Manga
Turner
Malone

Pilkington
Ralls
Gunnar
Kennedy

Mason

Kenwyne (Doyle after 60 mins)

Lots of comings and goings before end of August so things could be very different.

Re: ' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Mon Jun 08, 2015 7:11 pm

scooby1973 wrote:------------------Moore-------------------

Peltier------Connelly -------manga-----John--

------------------adeymei----------------

--Pilkington----------------------ralls----------

-------------------whitts----------------------

---------------------mason------------------

-------------------Doyle -------------------.

Our team will look a lot different come August , hopefully with some good new players

That would leave a large gap in the middle of the pitch, we would get dominated (even more than we do), diamond formations are awful, unless you play a narrow one.

Re: ' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Mon Jun 08, 2015 7:45 pm

Moore (sell Marshall, if the right fee came in we could look to strengthen elsewhere and he deserves premier league football.)

Fabio (Malone is not good enough and although I like Declan John but he can be rash at times, he would have a place on the bench.)
Turner (Absolute rock, we looked so much better with him at the back against Forest.)
Morrisson (Not his biggest fan but he adds a bit of attacking threat to the team. Let's hope he doesn't poo on the pitch! :lol:
Peltier (Solid and sturdy. Just what we need at this level.)

Gunnarson (I absolutely love him, although others don't share the same opinion. Personally I think he should be captain.)
Ralls (What a young player! We must keep hold of him, he always brings energy to the team and has a touch of quality. Would rotate him with Whitts.)
Kennedy (Another player we must keep hold of. Young, promising and quick. Has his faults but all in all a cracking young player.)
Johnny Russell (Would be great if we could pull this one out of the bag. Would add pace and creativity.)

Eoin Doyle (Started slowly but came on well as the season finished. Could be a goal machine in this league with the right service.)
Joey Mason (Runs hard and has formed a decent partnership with Doyle. Possibly add another striker.)

Re: ' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Mon Jun 08, 2015 7:46 pm

Marshall
Peltier
Turner
Manga
Fabio
Kennedy
Adeyemi
Ralls
Gunnarsson
Mason
Doyle

Re: ' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Mon Jun 08, 2015 7:51 pm

Fabio over John every day of the week for me

And doyle over mason every day of the week I like mason but give doyle a full season I reckon he's getting 20 goals.

I want mason to do well but he doesn't look like he's improved massively

Re: ' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:09 pm

Moore

Fabio
Turner
Connolly
Malone

Kennedy
Gunnarson
Ralls
Whittingham
Noone

Doyle

Re: ' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:21 pm

My team if we can keep all our current players - 4-5-1:

Marshall

Peltier
Turner
Manga
Connolly

Kennedy
Gunnarsson
Whittingham
Ralls
Pilkington

Jones

I know this team means we will have very little attacking threat from our full backs, but I'm perfectly happy to play with a solid back 4 who will give very little away. There's absolutely no need for the full backs to push on with 5 midfielders anyway and there is more than enough creativity in that midfield to create chances.

Re: ' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:30 pm

Marshall

Peltier Connolly manga Fabio

--- dikgachoi Whitts

Kennedy Ralls pilkington

---- Doyle

Re: ' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:01 pm

Moore
Peltier Manga Turner Fabio
Kennedy Gunnarsson Adeyemi Ralls
Mason
Doyle

Re: ' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:21 am

We need to win the midfield to have a chance in this league , This midfield would dominate games when all fit :ayatollah:


-----------------------------marshall--------------------------

---Fabio------Bruno Manga-------Turner--------John----

-----------Adeyemi--------Dikachoi--------Ralls-----------

-----------------Gunnarsson-------Whittingham-----------

-------------------------------Mason---------------------------

Re: ' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:26 am

carlccfc wrote:After we recently covered every player in our squad on this forum recently, it got me thinking that should certain players be subjects of bids or even sold, I wondered what players I would allow to leave that I believe would not have the biggest negative effect on the squad.

I have named a team below that I fully expect every reply will have at least one disagreement with me.

The inclusion of Simon Moore, Declan John and Kenwyne Jones, I fully expect to receive the biggest debate.

The team I have named is purely based on players we have and not anyone who we are linked with or someone I would like to see join us.

Obviously there will be movement, in and out, during the transfer window but I wanted to focus on those who are here and out of those players who I think offer the most to the team.

I would like to see us focus more on youth than we have previously and that is behind the inclusion of John, Ralls, Kennedy and Mason.

With cost cutting still on the agenda, I believe keeping our talented younger players is essential but we still need a good mix of experience in the team to hopefully give us a better chance next season than go all out with youth.

I believe, if an acceptable bid for Marshall is received and accepted then he deserves to be playing at a higher level than he is with us at present and I would thank him for his service and allow Moore the chance to be our number one keeper for the foreseeable future.

Turner and Manga are two rocks I would hope we have as centre halves next season and pray we can hold on to Manga.

Peltier has proved to be a good acquisition and would keep his place for me.

Declan John is Welsh and young enough to learn his trade in a team with the experience of Turner to guide him.

Midfield has to have creativity and I think Kennedy and Ralls will provide drive and energy to a stagnant midfield, which I also believe has been problematic for a number of years for City.

Gunnarrson provides the experience in the centre and Pilkington is more than an able winger, again someone who I feel would help John on the left hand side.

Kenwyne Jones is perhaps the most controversial inclusion, high wages and labeled 'lazy' by many fans, he is our top scorer and I genuinely feel he is still the best we have in our squad to provide the bustle and goals as well as a defensive asset when defending set pieces.

Joe Mason as the fox in and around the box playing off Jones, would score goals if given a run of games.

My team based on what I have written above would be :

Simon Moore

Lee Peltier
Bruno Manga
Ben Turner
Declan John

Matty Kennedy
Aron Gunnarrson
Joe Ralls
Anthony Pilkington

Kenwyne Jones
Joe Mason


Subs

Joe Lewis
Matthew Connolly
Fabio
Tom Adeyemi
Peter Whittingham
Eoin Doyle
Kadeem Harris

I would sell Marshall, Morrison, Noone from players who were regulars last season.

Dikgacoi is a player that if he can regain his fitness is someone who should not only be challenging Adeyemi for a sub spot but also gunning for Gunnarrson's place in the starting eleven.

I am not a fan of Malone and as a result is the only reason I have included Fabio, otherwise the Brazilian would be heading out the exit but Fabio offers more versatility so therefore remains.

Revell and Macheda are two others who, for me anyway, don't offer enough to be included in the match day squad.

As I said above, I doubt many, if anyone, agrees with my choices but it is all about opinions.

What 11 would you start with and what reasons for their inclusion ?

And why would you drop others or even sell ?


Only thing i would change is Jones for Adeyemi, 4-5-1 that can quickly change to 4-3-3. Pilkington will miss a lot of games again as history tells us this, so if were away from home Whitts, and at home Kads to take his place.

Re: ' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:54 am

KBK-13 wrote:Marshall

Peltier Connolly manga Fabio

--- dikgachoi Whitts

Kennedy Ralls pilkington

---- Doyle


This team! Exactly my thoughts. I think 4-2-3-1 would get the best out of Whittingham. I'd consider putting Ralls on the left instead of Pilkington and have Gunnarsson in the middle because I'd love to see him made captain.

Re: ' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:37 pm

4-2-3-1:

GK - David Marshall.
RB - Lee Peltier.
RCB - Bruno Ecuele Manga.
LCB - Ben Turner.
LB - Fabio.
RDM - Aron Gunnarsson.
LDM - Peter Whittingham.
RM - Anthony Pilkington.
LM - Declan John.
CAM - Joe Mason.
ST - Eoin Doyle.

:bluescarf: :ayatollah:

Re: ' FROM THE PLAYERS WE HAVE, I WOULD CHOOSE THESE '

Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:57 pm

Zabier wrote:
KBK-13 wrote:Marshall

Peltier Connolly manga Fabio

--- dikgachoi Whitts

Kennedy Ralls pilkington

---- Doyle


This team! Exactly my thoughts. I think 4-2-3-1 would get the best out of Whittingham. I'd consider putting Ralls on the left instead of Pilkington and have Gunnarsson in the middle because I'd love to see him made captain.


Gunnarson in for Dikgachoi maybe, especially if dikgachoi isn't fit after pre season. The side does lack leaders though