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ISRAEL KILLS MORE PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS FOR 48 YEARS

Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:05 am

Israel killed more Palestinians in 2014 than in any other year since 1967

More than 2,300 Palestinians killed and more than 17,000 injured, according to annual report by UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs

The conflict in Gaza in July and August was largely responsible for the deaths of 2,220 Palestinians.

Mairav Zonszein in Tel Aviv
Friday 27 March 2015

The Guardian

Israel killed more Palestinian civilians in 2014 than in any other year since the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip began in 1967, a UN report has said.

Israel’s activities in the Gaza Strip, West Bank and East Jerusalem resulted in the deaths of 2,314 Palestinians and 17,125 injuries, compared with 39 deaths and 3,964 injuries in 2013, according to the annual report (pdf) by the UN Office for the Co-ordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA).

The conflict in Gaza in July and August was largely responsible for the dramatic increase in fatalities. It claimed the lives of 2,220 Gazans, of whom 1,492 were civilians, 605 militants and 123 unverified.

More than 11,000 people were injured and about 500,000 Palestinians were internally displaced at the height of the conflict. About 100,000 remain so.

There was also a sharp rise in fatalities in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, where 58 Palestinians were killed and 6,028 injured – the highest number of fatalities in incidents involving Israeli forces since 2007 and the highest number of injuries since 2005.

Most of the incidents took place in the second half of the year, following the abduction and murder of Mohammed Abu Khdeir, which led to daily riots and protests in East Jerusalem.

Khdeir, a 16-year-old Palestinian, was kidnapped and killed in July, following the abduction and murder of three Israeli teenagers the previous month.

The report, entitled Fragmented Lives, documents an increase in the number of Palestinians injured, incarcerated and displaced, compared with the two previous years.

It notes an increase in the Israeli armed forces’ use of live ammunition, which accounted for almost all fatalities and 18% of injuries.
Palestinian attacks against Israeli civilians – mostly settlers – and security forces also rose in 2014, with Israeli fatalities increasing from four to 12. Incidents of settler violence resulting in Palestinian casualties and injuries increased, but the number of incidents leading to Palestinian property and land being damaged decreased.

The number of Palestinians held in administrative detention by Israeli authorities increased by 24% in 2014, but decreased when it came to children. A monthly average of 185 were held last year compared with 197 in 2013, a decrease of 6%. No children under 14 years old were held in military detention in 2014.

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:04 am

Muslims killed more Muslims in 2014 than any number of other religions combined.

Re: ISRAEL KILLS MORE PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS FOR 48 YEARS

Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:09 am

The funny thing is that I bet 95% at least of all Palestinians and Jews just want to get along and share their land. Unfortunately, it's always the political figures that decide the fate of millions. Let the politicians fight. Let the people live.

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:59 pm

It all seems tit for tat.
Palestinians cowardly set off suicide bombers & target innocents & have constantly sent over mortars in the past for the same result.
Israel retaliate but hit back much, much harder. What would anyone do to protect their own? What would you do to protect your family?
It is shocking how the innocent die though. On bother sides of course.

Re: ISRAEL KILLS MORE PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS FOR 48 YEARS

Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:10 pm

maccydee wrote:Muslims killed more Muslims in 2014 than any number of other religions combined.


The point is Neil, The Jews killed Palestinian a Civilians and 500,000 Palestinians were moved out of their own homes :shock: :shock:

Please answer how many Jews killed?

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:12 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:It all seems tit for tat.
Palestinians cowardly set off suicide bombers & target innocents & have constantly sent over mortars in the past for the same result.
Israel retaliate but hit back much, much harder. What would anyone do to protect their own? What would you do to protect your family?
It is shocking how the innocent die though. On bother sides of course.

Cowardly? They don't have any proper weapons,the Jews armed by America.
All the Palestinians want is their Country run bumpy their own people, us that a lot to ask for?

Tit for tat? Tell me how many Jews killed?

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:14 pm

Zabier wrote:The funny thing is that I bet 95% at least of all Palestinians and Jews just want to get along and share their land. Unfortunately, it's always the political figures that decide the fate of millions. Let the politicians fight. Let the people live.


Well said Steve :thumbright:

It's the Israeli prime minister who should be on trial.

Re: ISRAEL KILLS MORE PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS FOR 48 YEARS

Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:25 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:It all seems tit for tat.
Palestinians cowardly set off suicide bombers & target innocents & have constantly sent over mortars in the past for the same result.
Israel retaliate but hit back much, much harder. What would anyone do to protect their own? What would you do to protect your family?
It is shocking how the innocent die though. On bother sides of course.

Cowardly? They don't have any proper weapons,the Jews armed by America.
All the Palestinians want is their Country run bumpy their own people, us that a lot to ask for?

Tit for tat? Tell me how many Jews killed?


Are you saying that sending a suicide bomber in is not cowardly? It's one of the most cowardly things you could do regardless of who has more weapons. Blowing yourself up whilst stood amongst men, women & children makes them no better than that prick who crashed the plane recently.
And yes tit for for tat. One side does something & the other responds. That's tit for tat & it usually seems that Israel responds.
I'm not condoning what's going on by any means but I can see it from both sides.

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:37 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:Muslims killed more Muslims in 2014 than any number of other religions combined.


The point is Neil, The Jews killed Palestinian a Civilians and 500,000 Palestinians were moved out of their own homes :shock: :shock:

Please answer how many Jews killed?


excuse me, can you stop referring to israelis as 'jews'? yes many are, but there are many non religious people resident in israel, not to mention muslims (17% at last count).

it makes you look like an anti semite, thats all.

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:03 pm

Boko Haram butcher more than that in a week.

So do Al Qaeda, so do Al-Shabaab, so do ISIS.

The sole reason this is such a hot topic is that Jews are involved.

Muslims massacre Christians. Muslims massacre Muslims. There is little outcry.

Jews kill 2,000 Muslims over a drawn out period and it is the crime of the century. Even though a lot of those 2000 are indeed terrorists.

Seeing as:

"There are more than 133,000 individually recorded civilian deaths since the 2003 invasion of Iraq"

We are not in a position to claim Israel should be hounded out by the international community.

If Hamas had the fire power of Israel, every single Jew would be dead. That is the difference. The fundamental basis of this war is religion. One religion is looking for peace, whereas one is being interpreted in a way that would lead to a bloodbath.

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:19 pm

Depressed Blue wrote:Boko Haram butcher more than that in a week.

So do Al Qaeda, so do Al-Shabaab, so do ISIS.

The sole reason this is such a hot topic is that Jews are involved.

Muslims massacre Christians. Muslims massacre Muslims. There is little outcry.

Jews kill 2,000 Muslims over a drawn out period and it is the crime of the century. Even though a lot of those 2000 are indeed terrorists.

Seeing as:

"There are more than 133,000 individually recorded civilian deaths since the 2003 invasion of Iraq"

We are not in a position to claim Israel should be hounded out by the international community.

If Hamas had the fire power of Israel, every single Jew would be dead. That is the difference. The fundamental basis of this war is religion. One religion is looking for peace, whereas one is being interpreted in a way that would lead to a bloodbath.


Great post that.

Israel could obliterate the whole Gaza Strip but don't. They fire back at the rocket launchers that fire at them. Hamas position these near civilians.

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:22 pm

Not denying that it is a terrible situation and there is absolutely no excuse for killing innocent people.

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:10 pm

Depressed Blue wrote:Boko Haram butcher more than that in a week.

So do Al Qaeda, so do Al-Shabaab, so do ISIS.

The sole reason this is such a hot topic is that Jews are involved.

Muslims massacre Christians. Muslims massacre Muslims. There is little outcry.

Jews kill 2,000 Muslims over a drawn out period and it is the crime of the century. Even though a lot of those 2000 are indeed terrorists.

Seeing as:

"There are more than 133,000 individually recorded civilian deaths since the 2003 invasion of Iraq"

We are not in a position to claim Israel should be hounded out by the international community.

If Hamas had the fire power of Israel, every single Jew would be dead. That is the difference. The fundamental basis of this war is religion. One religion is looking for peace, whereas one is being interpreted in a way that would lead to a bloodbath.


All those groups don't interest me,because as far as I am concerned they all deserve to hang and they are already the Worlds enemy and mine.

Correct Israel is getting away with massacres/murder on a daily basics and the World should take note of what they set doing,

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:25 pm

Depressed Blue wrote:Not denying that it is a terrible situation and there is absolutely no excuse for killing innocent people.

So 12 Jews killed, over 2,000 Palestinians killed and over half a million Palestinians lose their own homes :evil:

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:28 pm

maccydee wrote:
Depressed Blue wrote:Boko Haram butcher more than that in a week.

So do Al Qaeda, so do Al-Shabaab, so do ISIS.

The sole reason this is such a hot topic is that Jews are involved.

Muslims massacre Christians. Muslims massacre Muslims. There is little outcry.

Jews kill 2,000 Muslims over a drawn out period and it is the crime of the century. Even though a lot of those 2000 are indeed terrorists.

Seeing as:

"There are more than 133,000 individually recorded civilian deaths since the 2003 invasion of Iraq"

We are not in a position to claim Israel should be hounded out by the international community.

If Hamas had the fire power of Israel, every single Jew would be dead. That is the difference. The fundamental basis of this war is religion. One religion is looking for peace, whereas one is being interpreted in a way that would lead to a bloodbath.


Great post that.

Israel could obliterate the whole Gaza Strip but don't. They fire back at the rocket launchers that fire at them. Hamas position these near civilians.


Yes top post & Maccydee agrees that a lot of it is tit for tat that I mentioned earlier.
I can also see that Depressed Blue can see the bigger picture & not just one side of it like some.

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:53 pm

correct depressed blue the only reason people care is because it involves a civilised group of people killing another group of people (civilised or not you decide). or alternatively its because its jews, and jews aren't allowed to defend their outpost.

with the rise in recent years of anti semitism in europe (guess which group of people are largely to blame), it is vital for the jewish people as a race that israel is strong. its the only place they can be sure they will not be discriminated against.

this will rumble on for many years to come, as the only way the muslims will settle is when they have seized israeli land and there are no jews left, they are open and honest about that.

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:15 pm

Complex does not begin to describe this situation.One thing is for sure The Jews will not be pushed into gas chambers like sheep ever again. Equally as long as Hamas call for the "annihilation" of Israel there is absolutely no solution.On the fundamentalist side you have the jewish settlers issue where these nutters believe that god tells them to steal land which is Arab, they firmly believe they are the chosen...ring a bell ? So we have loonies on all sides.Yes religion is the pollution here everyone seems to be chosen all that is missing are the loony christian american nutters who believe support for Israel is essential so that they can convert Jews in time for the rapture which is to follow.The good thing about being raised catholic is that you become cynical early on.But let us not worry Phoney Blair is a Middle East Peace Envoy ...there is hope!!!

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:24 pm

Jimmy Scoular wrote:Complex does not begin to describe this situation.One thing is for sure The Jews will not be pushed into gas chambers like sheep ever again. Equally as long as Hamas call for the "annihilation" of Israel there is absolutely no solution.On the fundamentalist side you have the jewish settlers issue where these nutters believe that god tells them to steal land which is Arab, they firmly believe they are the chosen...ring a bell ? So we have loonies on all sides.Yes religion is the pollution here everyone seems to be chosen all that is missing are the loony christian american nutters who believe support for Israel is essential so that they can convert Jews in time for the rapture which is to follow.The good thing about being raised catholic is that you become cynical early on.But let us not worry Phoney Blair is a Middle East Peace Envoy ...there is hope!!!

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


There is no basis for the land to be called Arab land. Israel build homes for Jewish settlers and Arab settlers. They are using land that technically nobody owns. The reason no one technically owns it is that there has been no agreement since 1922 that actually stands international law. This is because the Arab world will not acknowledge Israel. Land currently being settled on Israel won in the various wars where they have been invaded by their Arab neighbours.

It's simply not a case of Jews stealing Palestinians land and anyone who says differently is wrong.

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:44 pm

12 Jews killed ,thousands of Palestinians killed in their own Country and 500,000 losing their homes.
Can anyone explain how that is right?

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:48 pm

Forever Blue wrote:12 Jews killed ,thousands of Palestinians killed in their own Country and 500,000 losing their homes.
Can anyone explain how that is right?


Ask Hamas Annis. When peace is shown to last Israel give concession after concession. Israel are fully aware that the ordinary Palestinian isn't bad. Unfortunately they are represented by Hamas and Hezbollah who are very bad.

It wasn't 12 Jews killed. It was 12 Israelis. Included 2 Arabs and a Christian.

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:36 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:It all seems tit for tat.
Palestinians cowardly set off suicide bombers & target innocents & have constantly sent over mortars in the past for the same result.
Israel retaliate but hit back much, much harder. What would anyone do to protect their own? What would you do to protect your family?
It is shocking how the innocent die though. On bother sides of course.

Cowardly? They don't have any proper weapons,the Jews armed by America.
All the Palestinians want is their Country run bumpy their own people, us that a lot to ask for?

Tit for tat? Tell me how many Jews killed?


Roughly 6 million Annis! Essentially, and very simply put, that's what led to the formation of the modern state of Israel. Add several attempts by its neighbours to invade and "reclaim" "Palestine" and you begin to understand (if not condone) the actions and mindset of that nation.
It's a mess and, like most of the extreme problems which persist in the Middle East, was caused by the meddling of "The West" which continues to exert its influence to destabilise the region.
If it wasn't for oil in the region and a strong Jewish influence within Western goverments, much of the strife in the Middle East would have been resolved internally decades ago.

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:56 pm

Israel has many Muslim, Arab political parties running in the past few months for government. How many Jewish, Israeli people would be allowed to run for office under a Palestinian state run by Palestinian Authority or Hamas?.

Muslims are allowed to live in complete peace in Israel. Why? Because Israel is not an aggressor.

The land grabs are wrong and they should be stopped from doing. The same way we have pathetically squeezed Russia after doing much worse than the Israelis.

If Hamas put down its weapons, the innocent people of Palestine would prosper.

Until that happens then I'm afriad Israel will continue to defend itself. From having its schools and airports fired upon over a land dispute.

Land which is no ones homeland. Aren't the British immigrants?. Aren't we all?.
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Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:57 pm

Enola Gay wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:It all seems tit for tat.
Palestinians cowardly set off suicide bombers & target innocents & have constantly sent over mortars in the past for the same result.
Israel retaliate but hit back much, much harder. What would anyone do to protect their own? What would you do to protect your family?
It is shocking how the innocent die though. On bother sides of course.

Cowardly? They don't have any proper weapons,the Jews armed by America.
All the Palestinians want is their Country run bumpy their own people, us that a lot to ask for?

Tit for tat? Tell me how many Jews killed?


Roughly 6 million Annis! Essentially, and very simply put, that's what led to the formation of the modern state of Israel. Add several attempts by its neighbours to invade and "reclaim" "Palestine" and you begin to understand (if not condone) the actions and mindset of that nation.
It's a mess and, like most of the extreme problems which persist in the Middle East, was caused by the meddling of "The West" which continues to exert its influence to destabilise the region.
If it wasn't for oil in the region and a strong Jewish influence within Western goverments, much of the strife in the Middle East would have been resolved internally decades ago.



I do agree,Britain started this mess

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:00 pm

maccydee wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:12 Jews killed ,thousands of Palestinians killed in their own Country and 500,000 losing their homes.
Can anyone explain how that is right?


Ask Hamas Annis. When peace is shown to last Israel give concession after concession. Israel are fully aware that the ordinary Palestinian isn't bad. Unfortunately they are represented by Hamas and Hezbollah who are very bad.

It wasn't 12 Jews killed. It was 12 Israelis. Included 2 Arabs and a Christian.


Neil, if Palestine never had Hamas who have been voted in ,they would have no one at all to fight their corner would they?

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:02 pm

Depressed Blue wrote:Israel has many Muslim, Arab political parties running in the past few months for government. How many Jewish, Israeli people would be allowed to run for office under a Palestinian state run by Palestinian Authority or Hamas?.

Muslims are allowed to live in complete peace in Israel. Why? Because Israel is not an aggressor.

The land grabs are wrong and they should be stopped from doing. The same way we have pathetically squeezed Russia after doing much worse than the Israelis.

If Hamas put down its weapons, the innocent people of Palestine would prosper.

Until that happens then I'm afriad Israel will continue to defend itself. From having its schools and airports fired upon over a land dispute.

Land which is no ones homeland. Aren't the British immigrants?. Aren't we all?.


Palestine should be allowed to be run by Palestinians.
As to Arabs in Israel yes there are many,but only the Jews have the final word in how the Govt is run and that's a fact.

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:10 pm

Lets all be honest,I will never change my views/opinions/beliefs backed up by horrific facts and those who disagree won't change there's either backed up by Hmmmm?

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:52 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Lets all be honest,I will never change my views/opinions/beliefs backed up by horrific facts and those who disagree won't change there's either backed up by Hmmmm?


Hamas are always aggressor Annis. They don't fight Palestinian's corner they cause them loads of trouble. You are not talking facts when you state numbers killed each time it kicks off. No one can be sure the real figures. Much like 30000 to 100000 is used to talk about with the Dresden bombings.

The hatred of Jews by Arabs goes back to pre World War 2. The arabs were a supporter of Hitler.

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:03 pm

I am sorry to say that I have very little sympathy for people who follow a political group (Hamas) who advocate the annihilation of another peoples (Israelis), The Western world, etc, no matter what religion or none they happen to be.

I can never forget the television scenes of the 9/11attack in New York - with people hurling themselves out of windows to escape the flames, the tragedy unfolding before our very eyes, etc, etc, and the TV station cut to the people in the streets of Palestine jumping for joy and burning American flags.

So, so sad :(

Blooobirds Forever !!!

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:06 pm

At a recent rally Hamas had the other option for Palestinian power by their side The Islamic Jihad party! Even Eygpt has blocked trade routes to Hamastine. Why don't their Arab neighbours give them land, Jordan Eygpt , Syria etc? Because they hate them! They are brought up on hatred and as long as I have lived it's been no different on both sides. Palestinians hate the West but are the most aid dependant people in the world and a nearly half comes from USA and UK.

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Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:15 pm

The IDF monitors every rocket fired by the Palestinians and 160 have fallen short of Gazas boundary. In other words fallen on their own people . They then report it as the Israelis! Their are countless videos of Hamas beating and killing their own for leaving their homes after IDF giving prior warnings for rocket attacks.