Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:01 pm
Jimmy Scoular wrote:So for all you UKIP haters what about:
Labour's complete failure to generate sustainable jobs
The abandonment of the young, the proliferation of NEETS and those university educated
The failure to create apprenticeships of value not six month cheap labour stints for exploitative employers
The corruption within Welsh Labour "jobs for the boyos"...who you know not what you know
The same inept useless faces being bounced around in WAG can you think of one single charismatic politician in Wales?
To cap it all where I live 106 Labour Party members decided to appoint Stephen Kinnock as Parliamentary candidate for Aberavon
a guy who lives in Denmark !!!!!! I confronted him on this and he became visibly agitated
As for the rest well the Tories are what they are they will help the better off, PC well they are a complete joke, Lib Dems fluffy wankers who shored up Cameron and abandoned all their principles.That leaves The Greens or UKIP ?One thing is certain we are a small Island with finite resources and CANNOT sustain the levels of migration which Cameron failed to control so miserably.Also the Muslim Trojan horse is a deep concern especially for our children and grandchildren.
Nigel mine's a Strongbow !!
l
Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:38 pm
Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:Quite frightening how many here are intending to vote UKIP.
How on earth would they be beneficial to Wales?! They don't care for Wales.
Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:42 pm
Depressed Blue wrote:Parliament has been dissolved and the election campaigns begin.
All MPs are now common muck like you or me. For a month and a bit.
Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:49 pm
nubbsy wrote:Mr Bean wrote:I'm not up to speed on the unemployment figures, but surely there are enough people already in this once great country of ours to do the work that's out there. As for the public services, I think the councils will be cutting back on the numbers of staff they employ, due to their budget cut backs.
the jobs that you say British people could do, they aren't willing to do. Why earn minimum wage in a factory when you can claim for everything under the sun and sit on your arse. The shit jobs are done by immigrants because they want to work and don't mind what they do
Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:28 pm
Jimmy Scoular wrote:So for all you UKIP haters what about:
Labour's complete failure to generate sustainable jobs
The abandonment of the young, the proliferation of NEETS and those university educated
The failure to create apprenticeships of value not six month cheap labour stints for exploitative employers
The corruption within Welsh Labour "jobs for the boyos"...who you know not what you know
The same inept useless faces being bounced around in WAG can you think of one single charismatic politician in Wales?
To cap it all where I live 106 Labour Party members decided to appoint Stephen Kinnock as Parliamentary candidate for Aberavon
a guy who lives in Denmark !!!!!! I confronted him on this and he became visibly agitated
As for the rest well the Tories are what they are they will help the better off, PC well they are a complete joke, Lib Dems fluffy wankers who shored up Cameron and abandoned all their principles.That leaves The Greens or UKIP ?One thing is certain we are a small Island with finite resources and CANNOT sustain the levels of migration which Cameron failed to control so miserably.Also the Muslim Trojan horse is a deep concern especially for our children and grandchildren.
Nigel mine's a Strongbow !!
l
Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:02 pm
Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:53 pm
Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:10 am
popeye21 wrote:Labour still want to copy France and raise taxes and public spending, yet France has been described as a 'basket case' because of the high unemployment and slower growth that these policies have brought. Furthermore, they will join with the SNP which will be a disaster for the UK.
The Lib Dems have been so poor that their leader may not get in as an MP according to recent polls.
Plaid wants Westminster to stop governing us, yet is happy to be governed by the Germans and French via the EU. They are a bunch of hypocrites who just want more political career jobs.
The Greens would not make it illegal to join terrorist groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda. Perhaps they long for a return to the Dark Ages with Sharia Law so that energy consumption e.t.c. would be reduced.
The Tories have done a reasonable job with the economy, but are reluctant to leave the EU which is causing a lot of our problems; don't want a return to Grammar schools and are not committed enough on defence. The only party that will take us out of the EU, build new Grammar Schools and increase defence spending by 40% is UKIP. These are sensible policies as the countries with consistently the highest standard of living in Europe over the last few decades are Norway and Switzerland, both outside the EU (but still trade with the EU);the country which has been at the top of the education tables is Singapore which still has a system based upon our old Grammar School system, and finally, with the sabre rattling of Putin and the threat of terrorism the armed forces need to be strengthened, not left with carriers without aircraft.
Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:13 pm
popeye21 wrote:popeye21 wrote:Labour still want to copy France and raise taxes and public spending, yet France has been described as a 'basket case' because of the high unemployment and slower growth that these policies have brought. Furthermore, they will join with the SNP which will be a disaster for the UK.
The Lib Dems have been so poor that their leader may not get in as an MP according to recent polls.
Plaid wants Westminster to stop governing us, yet is happy to be governed by the Germans and French via the EU. They are a bunch of hypocrites who just want more political career jobs.
The Greens would not make it illegal to join terrorist groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda. Perhaps they long for a return to the Dark Ages with Sharia Law so that energy consumption e.t.c. would be reduced.
The Tories have done a reasonable job with the economy, but are reluctant to leave the EU which is causing a lot of our problems; don't want a return to Grammar schools and are not committed enough on defence. The only party that will take us out of the EU, build new Grammar Schools and increase defence spending by 40% is UKIP. These are sensible policies as the countries with consistently the highest standard of living in Europe over the last few decades are Norway and Switzerland, both outside the EU (but still trade with the EU);the country which has been at the top of the education tables is Singapore which still has a system based upon our old Grammar School system, and finally, with the sabre rattling of Putin and the threat of terrorism the armed forces need to be strengthened, not left with carriers without aircraft.
Over 12 hours and no counter argument!
Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:19 pm
Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:40 pm
moggs1306 wrote:popeye21 wrote:popeye21 wrote:Labour still want to copy France and raise taxes and public spending, yet France has been described as a 'basket case' because of the high unemployment and slower growth that these policies have brought. Furthermore, they will join with the SNP which will be a disaster for the UK.
The Lib Dems have been so poor that their leader may not get in as an MP according to recent polls.
Plaid wants Westminster to stop governing us, yet is happy to be governed by the Germans and French via the EU. They are a bunch of hypocrites who just want more political career jobs.
The Greens would not make it illegal to join terrorist groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda. Perhaps they long for a return to the Dark Ages with Sharia Law so that energy consumption e.t.c. would be reduced.
The Tories have done a reasonable job with the economy, but are reluctant to leave the EU which is causing a lot of our problems; don't want a return to Grammar schools and are not committed enough on defence. The only party that will take us out of the EU, build new Grammar Schools and increase defence spending by 40% is UKIP. These are sensible policies as the countries with consistently the highest standard of living in Europe over the last few decades are Norway and Switzerland, both outside the EU (but still trade with the EU);the country which has been at the top of the education tables is Singapore which still has a system based upon our old Grammar School system, and finally, with the sabre rattling of Putin and the threat of terrorism the armed forces need to be strengthened, not left with carriers without aircraft.
Over 12 hours and no counter argument!
I have no argument to make, as i agree with you and with 95% of ukip's policies.
Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:41 pm
popeye21 wrote:moggs1306 wrote:popeye21 wrote:popeye21 wrote:Labour still want to copy France and raise taxes and public spending, yet France has been described as a 'basket case' because of the high unemployment and slower growth that these policies have brought. Furthermore, they will join with the SNP which will be a disaster for the UK.
The Lib Dems have been so poor that their leader may not get in as an MP according to recent polls.
Plaid wants Westminster to stop governing us, yet is happy to be governed by the Germans and French via the EU. They are a bunch of hypocrites who just want more political career jobs.
The Greens would not make it illegal to join terrorist groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda. Perhaps they long for a return to the Dark Ages with Sharia Law so that energy consumption e.t.c. would be reduced.
The Tories have done a reasonable job with the economy, but are reluctant to leave the EU which is causing a lot of our problems; don't want a return to Grammar schools and are not committed enough on defence. The only party that will take us out of the EU, build new Grammar Schools and increase defence spending by 40% is UKIP. These are sensible policies as the countries with consistently the highest standard of living in Europe over the last few decades are Norway and Switzerland, both outside the EU (but still trade with the EU);the country which has been at the top of the education tables is Singapore which still has a system based upon our old Grammar School system, and finally, with the sabre rattling of Putin and the threat of terrorism the armed forces need to be strengthened, not left with carriers without aircraft.
Over 12 hours and no counter argument!
I have no argument to make, as i agree with you and with 95% of ukip's policies.
Thank you for agreeing.
Sat Apr 04, 2015 4:59 pm
Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:59 pm
Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:50 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Farage wants to take away the 50 million a day we're paying to the European union and use that money on the British people instead.
Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:52 pm
blueminati wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Farage wants to take away the 50 million a day we're paying to the European union and use that money on the British people instead.
How much do you think Wales contributes out of that 50 million? Very little. Let me tell you, Wales gets over £2bn every year from the EU for research and investment. Withdrawing from the EU will mean that we will lose that funding as England will hold on to everything they make. Well done, English people will become more prosperous and Welsh and Scots will become poorer as UKIP also want to scrap the Barnett formula which will leave things bad for Scotland too. All of that money will go back into England as Farage is a little Englander who is so far up his own backside and thinks England is better than every other country when in reality its a concrete jungle cesspit.
Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:57 pm
Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:58 pm
how is he racist? Have you seen the diverse colours and religion of the ukip members and candidates ? It's not racist to want the best for British born citizen whatever your religious or colour of your skinBluebirds-1927 wrote:Jimmy Scoular wrote:So for all you UKIP haters what about:
Labour's complete failure to generate sustainable jobs
The abandonment of the young, the proliferation of NEETS and those university educated
The failure to create apprenticeships of value not six month cheap labour stints for exploitative employers
The corruption within Welsh Labour "jobs for the boyos"...who you know not what you know
The same inept useless faces being bounced around in WAG can you think of one single charismatic politician in Wales?
To cap it all where I live 106 Labour Party members decided to appoint Stephen Kinnock as Parliamentary candidate for Aberavon
a guy who lives in Denmark !!!!!! I confronted him on this and he became visibly agitated
As for the rest well the Tories are what they are they will help the better off, PC well they are a complete joke, Lib Dems fluffy wankers who shored up Cameron and abandoned all their principles.That leaves The Greens or UKIP ?One thing is certain we are a small Island with finite resources and CANNOT sustain the levels of migration which Cameron failed to control so miserably.Also the Muslim Trojan horse is a deep concern especially for our children and grandchildren.
Nigel mine's a Strongbow !!
l
The man is insane. He's so backwards, wants to re introduce smoking in public places and not allow same sex marriage, and he is racist. Some of what he says is true and I agree with but fundamentally most of the policies are wrong, and he will privatise parts of the NHS.
Agree about immigration though.
I'm still undecided but won't be voting UKIP or conservatives for that matter.
Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:23 pm
Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:24 pm
popeye21 wrote:BlueGog Climate change is a myth. When research papers hide or omit facts that do not agree with the findings that they want, the research is flawed. Climate change is not man made which is why the MWP (Medieval Warm Period) data needed to be hidden or discredited by the IPCC. Trading in carbon credits will soon be worth more than $125 trillion. Meaningless bits of paper where the carbon credits for a forest in some distant place could be sold time and again in different countries.
http://hidethedecline.eu/pages/posts/cl ... od-288.php
Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:32 pm
blueminati wrote:popeye21 wrote:BlueGog Climate change is a myth. When research papers hide or omit facts that do not agree with the findings that they want, the research is flawed. Climate change is not man made which is why the MWP (Medieval Warm Period) data needed to be hidden or discredited by the IPCC. Trading in carbon credits will soon be worth more than $125 trillion. Meaningless bits of paper where the carbon credits for a forest in some distant place could be sold time and again in different countries.
http://hidethedecline.eu/pages/posts/cl ... od-288.php
Climate change is a myth? I've heard it all now.
Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:42 pm
Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:19 pm
wez1927 wrote:Global warming just another way of taxing people
Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:35 pm
popeye21 wrote:Then why do the IPCC need to hide data? Are you an expert on Energy Management? I have a post grad on the subject and many prominent scientists like the co-founder of Greenpeace, Patrick Moore and Dr David Bellamy also believe it's a myth.
Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:49 pm
blueminati wrote:popeye21 wrote:Then why do the IPCC need to hide data? Are you an expert on Energy Management? I have a post grad on the subject and many prominent scientists like the co-founder of Greenpeace, Patrick Moore and Dr David Bellamy also believe it's a myth.
Global warming is happening. They've not hid data at all. The data is synthesised to factor in all results which actually means a more accurate recording is taken overall. The data is there for anyone to see. The tax argument is the best one yet. Are you a member on the David Icke forums by any chance?
Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:07 pm
wez1927 wrote:blueminati wrote:popeye21 wrote:Then why do the IPCC need to hide data? Are you an expert on Energy Management? I have a post grad on the subject and many prominent scientists like the co-founder of Greenpeace, Patrick Moore and Dr David Bellamy also believe it's a myth.
Global warming is happening. They've not hid data at all. The data is synthesised to factor in all results which actually means a more accurate recording is taken overall. The data is there for anyone to see. The tax argument is the best one yet. Are you a member on the David Icke forums by any chance?
Can you explain why the polar ice caps are now increasing ? And a lot of scientist agree that global warming isn't happening
Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:22 pm
blueminati wrote:wez1927 wrote:blueminati wrote:popeye21 wrote:Then why do the IPCC need to hide data? Are you an expert on Energy Management? I have a post grad on the subject and many prominent scientists like the co-founder of Greenpeace, Patrick Moore and Dr David Bellamy also believe it's a myth.
Global warming is happening. They've not hid data at all. The data is synthesised to factor in all results which actually means a more accurate recording is taken overall. The data is there for anyone to see. The tax argument is the best one yet. Are you a member on the David Icke forums by any chance?
Can you explain why the polar ice caps are now increasing ? And a lot of scientist agree that global warming isn't happening
Polar ice caps are now increasing obviously disproves global warming overall doesn't it? Omg you really need to resit your geography GCSE as you are bloody clueless.
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/
I do hope you're not one of those extremely thick types who thinks that because there's still snow in the world global warming cant be happening.
Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:40 pm
wez1927 wrote:Your a bit of a pecker head arnt you ,for the last 30 years scienctists and governments have Said they are melting coz of global warming so how come they are now getting bigger in fact the southern ice sheet has grown by a third in the last few years ?
Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:59 am
blueminati wrote:wez1927 wrote:Your a bit of a pecker head arnt you ,for the last 30 years scienctists and governments have Said they are melting coz of global warming so how come they are now getting bigger in fact the southern ice sheet has grown by a third in the last few years ?
Are you stupid or just going out of your way to come across as such? Seriously, read the link I sent you, properly. Temperatures differ around the globe and fluctuate which you'd have seen if you'd looked at the modelling that has been done on it. As said, the evidence you've made reference to does not disprove global warming at all. All it proves is that sea temperatures fluctuate at different points of the ocean, something we've known for decades which is why marine life is affected. Its not even worth debating on here any further as the people on here are often Islamaphobic culturally ignorant fools who think they know better than people educated in the field. Keep believing the silly conspiracy theories if you wish from all the Christian fundamentalists and clowns like Alex Jones in America. Im not going to lose sleep at night. I just find it hilarious that people are this thick.
Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:15 pm
wez1927 wrote:blueminati wrote:wez1927 wrote:blueminati wrote:popeye21 wrote:Then why do the IPCC need to hide data? Are you an expert on Energy Management? I have a post grad on the subject and many prominent scientists like the co-founder of Greenpeace, Patrick Moore and Dr David Bellamy also believe it's a myth.
Global warming is happening. They've not hid data at all. The data is synthesised to factor in all results which actually means a more accurate recording is taken overall. The data is there for anyone to see. The tax argument is the best one yet. Are you a member on the David Icke forums by any chance?
Can you explain why the polar ice caps are now increasing ? And a lot of scientist agree that global warming isn't happening
Polar ice caps are now increasing obviously disproves global warming overall doesn't it? Omg you really need to resit your geography GCSE as you are bloody clueless.
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/
I do hope you're not one of those extremely thick types who thinks that because there's still snow in the world global warming cant be happening.
Your a bit of a pecker head arnt you ,for the last 30 years scienctists and governments have Said they are melting coz of global warming so how come they are now getting bigger in fact the southern ice sheet has grown by a third in the last few years ?