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Kenwyne Jones and new signing Eoin Doyle a good partnership for Saturday?

Kenwyne Jones and new signing Eoin Doyle a good partnership for Saturday?

I hope so Mason

As long as kenwynne don't leave all the closing down to Doyle

Hope that's what he goes with, but think he'll play Revell and Doyle.

sorry but Doyle and Revell anyday. jones for me isn't a starter in a 442 (which we all know is the formation saturday).
Jones is a 451 player or a game changing sub.
I know some of you are gonna give the "Top scorer" blah blah blah rubbish but it frustrates me to see him play sometimes. He's not as mobile as Revell and doesn't chase after the ball enough. if its not directly to him, he isnt interested and that's where the team struggle, no movement!

No.
Start Revell with Doyle.
Put their defence under pressure for 90 minutes not 30. Don't let them have an easy time and surrender possession by starting a striker who hasn't got an engine.
Jones can come on 2 nd half fresh and take advantage.
He works better as a sub

No.
Start Revell with Doyle.
Put their defence under pressure for 90 minutes not 30. Don't let them have an easy time and surrender possession by starting a striker who hasn't got an engine.
Jones can come on 2 nd half fresh and take advantage.
He works better as a sub

Jones is our top goalscorer? If he has been given a chance this season he has taken it , I'd start him

No.
Start Revell with Doyle.
Put their defence under pressure for 90 minutes not 30. Don't let them have an easy time and surrender possession by starting a striker who hasn't got an engine.
Jones can come on 2 nd half fresh and take advantage.
He works better as a sub

Jones is our top goalscorer? If he has been given a chance this season he has taken it , I'd start him

So would I but I think he'll start with his two signings up front & bring Jones on when we are losing.

No.
Start Revell with Doyle.
Put their defence under pressure for 90 minutes not 30. Don't let them have an easy time and surrender possession by starting a striker who hasn't got an engine.
Jones can come on 2 nd half fresh and take advantage.
He works better as a sub

Jones is our top goalscorer? If he has been given a chance this season he has taken it , I'd start him

I am aware of that.
However he can only run for 30 mins. After that he's a passenger. How many times has he put in a full 90 - or 45 come to that .
He's a talented player who can score, but his lack of fitness means we suffer in other ways.
Having a passenger up front means a lack of options and also an opposition who have time and space on the ball no wonder our possession stats have been so poor.
He can have a massive impact coming on after 10-15 mins in the 2nd half.

No.
Start Revell with Doyle.
Put their defence under pressure for 90 minutes not 30. Don't let them have an easy time and surrender possession by starting a striker who hasn't got an engine.
Jones can come on 2 nd half fresh and take advantage.
He works better as a sub

Jones is our top goalscorer? If he has been given a chance this season he has taken it , I'd start him

I am aware of that.
However he can only run for 30 mins. After that he's a passenger. How many times has he put in a full 90 - or 45 come to that .
He's a talented player who can score, but his lack of fitness means we suffer in other ways.
Having a passenger up front means a lack of options and also an opposition who have time and space on the ball no wonder our possession stats have been so poor.
He can have a massive impact coming on after 10-15 mins in the 2nd half.

You're normally such a decent poster, but I'm afraid you're mixing up the Jones of last season, with the Jones of this season IMO!

He's completed several 90 minutes this season and even scored in the 90th minute against Norwich, having kept going, chasing back and urging the rest of the team onward, who had allowed their heads to drop!

We weren't far behind Derby in the possession stakes on Saturday either, which isn't a bad feat considering we've been dominated in that department drastically all season and we created more and the better chances against them, in a new formation!

Had Jones started the match instead of Revell, there might have been a different outcome and it's no coincidence that Jones is dominating the MOTM & Player of the Month stats on this message board!

He isn't getting those accolades for 30 minute performances!

No.
Start Revell with Doyle.
Put their defence under pressure for 90 minutes not 30. Don't let them have an easy time and surrender possession by starting a striker who hasn't got an engine.
Jones can come on 2 nd half fresh and take advantage.
He works better as a sub

Jones is our top goalscorer? If he has been given a chance this season he has taken it , I'd start him

I am aware of that.
However he can only run for 30 mins. After that he's a passenger. How many times has he put in a full 90 - or 45 come to that .
He's a talented player who can score, but his lack of fitness means we suffer in other ways.
Having a passenger up front means a lack of options and also an opposition who have time and space on the ball no wonder our possession stats have been so poor.
He can have a massive impact coming on after 10-15 mins in the 2nd half.

You're normally such a decent poster, but I'm afraid you're mixing up the Jones of last season, with the Jones of this season IMO!

He's completed several 90 minutes this season and even scored in the 90th minute against Norwich, having kept going, chasing back and urging the rest of the team onward, who had allowed their heads to drop!

We weren't far behind Derby in the possession stakes on Saturday either, which isn't a bad feat considering we've been dominated in that department drastically all season and we created more and the better chances against them, in a new formation!

Had Jones started the match instead of Revell, there might have been a different outcome and it's no coincidence that Jones is dominating the MOTM & Player of the Month stats on this message board!

He isn't getting those accolades for 30 minute performances!

I agree. He has changed for the better this year and really don't understand the mentality of bringing on your top scorer when the game is already gone!! So what if he plays 45?? Sub a fresh pair of legs on when ahead to give them hell and stop them defending high. I've no idea why the in-form striker should be benched.

Again, so what if the other frontman does all the closing down. As long as KJ bungs it in the net, happy days!!

No.
Start Revell with Doyle.
Put their defence under pressure for 90 minutes not 30. Don't let them have an easy time and surrender possession by starting a striker who hasn't got an engine.
Jones can come on 2 nd half fresh and take advantage.
He works better as a sub

Jones is our top goalscorer? If he has been given a chance this season he has taken it , I'd start him

I am aware of that.
However he can only run for 30 mins. After that he's a passenger. How many times has he put in a full 90 - or 45 come to that .
He's a talented player who can score, but his lack of fitness means we suffer in other ways.
Having a passenger up front means a lack of options and also an opposition who have time and space on the ball no wonder our possession stats have been so poor.
He can have a massive impact coming on after 10-15 mins in the 2nd half.

You're normally such a decent poster, but I'm afraid you're mixing up the Jones of last season, with the Jones of this season IMO!

He's completed several 90 minutes this season and even scored in the 90th minute against Norwich, having kept going, chasing back and urging the rest of the team onward, who had allowed their heads to drop!

We weren't far behind Derby in the possession stakes on Saturday either, which isn't a bad feat considering we've been dominated in that department drastically all season and we created more and the better chances against them, in a new formation!

Had Jones started the match instead of Revell, there might have been a different outcome and it's no coincidence that Jones is dominating the MOTM & Player of the Month stats on this message board!

He isn't getting those accolades for 30 minute performances!

Thanks for the 'compliment'.
However I'm judging Jones on what I've seen this year.
Most recently v Reading.

I also have to take issue with a few of your points.
- he hasn't scored against Norwich at all this season. Maybe you are mixing it up with Boro away when he came on as sub ?
Also, yes we matched Derby for possession, and why was that ? Revell started and played 70 mins, chasing down everything. Even his own flick-ons.

He's only had 7 90 minute games this season and the only one of those we won was Watford away- the Alamo !
Finally I didn't think he dominated MOM votes . I was under the impression they had been well spread around with Fabio and Manga picking up most.
He works best in short bursts and I still think he's better off the bench. His goals per minute as sub is very very good.

No.
Start Revell with Doyle.
Put their defence under pressure for 90 minutes not 30. Don't let them have an easy time and surrender possession by starting a striker who hasn't got an engine.
Jones can come on 2 nd half fresh and take advantage.
He works better as a sub

Jones is our top goalscorer? If he has been given a chance this season he has taken it , I'd start him

I am aware of that.
However he can only run for 30 mins. After that he's a passenger. How many times has he put in a full 90 - or 45 come to that .
He's a talented player who can score, but his lack of fitness means we suffer in other ways.
Having a passenger up front means a lack of options and also an opposition who have time and space on the ball no wonder our possession stats have been so poor.
He can have a massive impact coming on after 10-15 mins in the 2nd half.

You're normally such a decent poster, but I'm afraid you're mixing up the Jones of last season, with the Jones of this season IMO!

He's completed several 90 minutes this season and even scored in the 90th minute against Norwich, having kept going, chasing back and urging the rest of the team onward, who had allowed their heads to drop!

We weren't far behind Derby in the possession stakes on Saturday either, which isn't a bad feat considering we've been dominated in that department drastically all season and we created more and the better chances against them, in a new formation!

Had Jones started the match instead of Revell, there might have been a different outcome and it's no coincidence that Jones is dominating the MOTM & Player of the Month stats on this message board!

He isn't getting those accolades for 30 minute performances!

Thanks for the 'compliment'.
However I'm judging Jones on what I've seen this year.
Most recently v Reading.

I also have to take issue with a few of your points.
- he hasn't scored against Norwich at all this season. Maybe you are mixing it up with Boro away when he came on as sub ?
Also, yes we matched Derby for possession, and why was that ? Revell started and played 70 mins, chasing down everything. Even his own flick-ons.

He's only had 7 90 minute games this season and the only one of those we won was Watford away- the Alamo !
Finally I didn't think he dominated MOM votes . I was under the impression they had been well spread around with Fabio and Manga picking up most.
He works best in short bursts and I still think he's better off the bench. His goals per minute as sub is very very good.

I've no idea why I typed Norwich, when I meant Watford, other than the fact they both wear yellow shirts http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30566332!

I don't believe that we matched Derby because Revell played instead of Jones, as I personally think it was down to the fact that we played 5 midfielders in a 4-2-3-1 type formation, because whilst I like Revell's work rate, he doesn't shield the ball, or hold it up nearly as well as Jones!

On last season's performances, I'd have to say that Jones was unfit, lazy or a combination of both, but I've seen a completely different player this season, one who has worked a lot harder (I know it wouldn't have to be much harder) but to cover your point about the Reading match and judging him on this season's showing, then I'm afraid I can't agree!

The reason I can't agree, is because our midfield has been dominated in virtually every game this season, with the second half performance against Reading, being possibly the worst of the season to date, with probably only the second half performance at Charlton against 10 men to rival it!

To clarify, with our midfield getting dominated so easily and with all our forwards getting a poor level of service in virtually every game, Jones has shown that he is the only stand out player this season, who has been able to effect proceedings consistently in the goal scoring department and he's also been our best defender when defending set pieces, especially corners!

You may well have a point that he has scored a lot of goals this season whilst coming off the bench, but he has scored a fair few goals in a poor creative team whilst starting as well, which is something nobody else has managed to consistently achieve and in the game you've highlighted in Reading, I'm pretty certain he got the MOTM for that game as well!

I also believe that the reason why he's only played 7 full 90 minute matches for us this season, is because Slade in particular, was mixing up his strike force, in order to try and gauge his best partnership(s)!

Macheda and Le Fondre had several run outs together with Jones starting on the bench, which I think was mainly down to Slade not knowing his best strike force and possibly allowing both of those players a lot of time to try and establish themselves, too much time IMO!

I can't find the full MOTM threads, or the Player of the season thread, as the search parameters are too limited or restricted, but whilst I'm pretty certain that you're right about the MOTM winners being spread around a bit, I'm also pretty certain that Jones is ahead overall!

He's also dominating the Player of the Month votes for January as well:-

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=154463

Kenwyne Jones is joint top with Tom Adeyemi, Bruno Manga and Fabio.

They each have four MOTM performances.

As mentioned above, Jones is well on his way to be the first player to have two Player of the Month awards. Was Player of the Month in August and looks likely to get the January award