Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:14 pm
dantheswansman wrote:What a load of complete bollocks , this post smacks of desperation . you wish this was going to happen. its like a politicians speech . a little bit of truth and a whole load of complete and utter rubbish .
Verge of big trouble think i will leave it there so i can go and piss myself
Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:37 pm
Woodville Willie wrote:xajax wrote:Bullshit.
Fair play, you must have been up all night writing that analysis.
Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:25 am
Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:30 am
xajax wrote:Woodville Willie wrote:xajax wrote:Bullshit.
Fair play, you must have been up all night writing that analysis.
One word, two syllables is about your limit Willie
Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:04 am
Woodville Willie wrote:xajax wrote:Woodville Willie wrote:xajax wrote:Bullshit.
Fair play, you must have been up all night writing that analysis.
One word, two syllables is about your limit Willie
One word, two sylla what?
Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:30 pm
Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:37 pm
Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:40 pm
IanGibsonAteMyHamster wrote:Hot off the press this morning... (Or a few days ago from me)
SWANSEA City could sell 30 per cent of the club to their potential American investors in exchange for around £30 million.
But that cash would go directly to those shareholders who are willing to sell rather than into Swansea’s coffers.
The proposal which has been discussed could then see John Moores and Charles Noell, the super-rich US businessmen who have held talks with Liberty chiefs, give Swansea favourable loans in a bid to help drive the club forward.
Swansea sources have stressed to the Evening Post that at this stage, it is too early say whether the Americans will come on board.
But Swansea are expecting to have a better idea of whether the US investment is likely to happen after a meeting which is due to take place at some stage in February.
Swansea’s Supporters’ Trust have made it clear they are opposed to the idea of foreign investors coming on board at the Liberty, and their 21.1 per cent stake in the club will not be for sale.
However, the suggestion is that Swansea’s other shareholders will consider selling some or all of their respective stakes in the club.
Depending on how many — if any — shares they sell, the likes of Huw Jenkins, Martin Morgan and Brian Katzen would receive a chunk of the £30 million it is likely to cost the Americans to buy into the club.
At this point, Swansea say no firm decisions have been taken about what the way ahead would be if and when the shares are sold.
But the Americans would then join the club’s board of directors, and the suggestion is they could then lend Swansea money in an attempt to help the club progress both on and off the pitch.
If a deal comes off, it is understood Swansea would push through with a bid to buy the Liberty Stadium from Swansea Council as well as pressing ahead with plans to expand their 20,900-capacity home.
A chunk of cash would also be spent on improving Swansea’s two new training grounds.
There is work to be done at the Landore site as Swansea attempt to achieve category one status for their academy, with the erection of an indoor barn and classrooms on the to-do list there.
At Fairwood, meantime, Swansea are still a long way from completing the top-class set-up they want for the first team, with offices, a gym and a swimming pool among the facilities which are still to be built. The American dollars may not be spent exclusively on off-field projects.
Swansea could also use some of their money for squad-
strengthening if required.
However, the club say one of the key attractions of the potential new investment is that it will allow them to improve their facilities and infrastructure without dipping into the pot of cash which is currently used to pay for player recruitment and wages.
None of Swansea’s shareholders has so far commented officially on the possibility of selling, but it is believed there is agreement in the boardroom — the supporters’ trust aside — that the Americans buying in would be a good thing.
Morgan currently has the biggest share in the club (22.5 per cent) ahead of Katzen and the trust, who have matching stakes.
Jenkins (13.2 per cent) is the next biggest shareholder ahead of Robert Davies (10.5 per cent), while Leigh Dineen and John van Zweden hold smaller stakes.
Swansea confirmed last October that they were in discussions over the possibility of fresh investors coming into the club, with Jenkins stating that there was a need for them to catch up with their Premier League rivals financially. Jenkins has bemoaned Swansea’s lack of marketing prowess, and there is a feeling that the know-how and contacts Moores and Noell would bring would benefit the club.
The Americans were previously in charge of Major League Baseball side the San Diego Padres.
Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:59 pm
Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:17 pm
IanGibsonAteMyHamster wrote:I have been sent some PM's about this but cannot reply. Ideas?
Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:25 pm
Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:53 pm
goats wrote:They are mad to sell up. Just look at us and think no no no....money talks mind and generally phucks up most people. Things in football always change though. Wasn't that long ago we were both in the basement.
Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:32 pm
Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:01 am
Halifax93 wrote:They would be bonkers to do this. Their prudent locally owned model works. Why mess with it?
Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:46 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Halifax93 wrote:They would be bonkers to do this. Their prudent locally owned model works. Why mess with it?
Is premier money and sales of players sustainable over period of time? Or is income from other sources that great? Look what happened at Fulham once al fyed stopped funding club! They didn't survive on premier money or other income soon relegated!
Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:23 pm
Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:38 pm
Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:50 pm
Mr Ducie wrote:I would be against the expansion, as it will affect their home form. A bigger stadium will only favour the away side as presently the Liberty is a difficult place to go.
Not sure there is a supporter demand either ?
Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:36 am
Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:11 am
SCFC wrote:The Evening Post report is some way off the OP given, the main issue with the OP is the £150 million loan which just won't happen.
As for the expansion, we're expanding it to 25,000 as soon as possible and will be able to do this without reducing the attendance during the works.
As for the change of the ownership it looks like it will be Robert Davies and Brian Katzen leaving if a deal was to happen, which I'm not too fussed about. Just hope any new investors have the club interests at heart, but I'm sure the supporters of the club will make sure that is the case.
Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:04 am
SCFC wrote:The Evening Post report is some way off the OP given, the main issue with the OP is the £150 million loan which just won't happen.
As for the expansion, we're expanding it to 25,000 as soon as possible and will be able to do this without reducing the attendance during the works.
As for the change of the ownership it looks like it will be Robert Davies and Brian Katzen leaving if a deal was to happen, which I'm not too fussed about. Just hope any new investors have the club interests at heart, but I'm sure the supporters of the club will make sure that is the case.
Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:02 pm
Woodville Willie wrote:
The club has been sheltered so far by using a council facility for next to nothing but wait till you own it and have the running costs and other overheads to deal with.
The very notion that the board is splitting apart with members leaving could mean that there is a crash waiting to happen. If The yanks come in and decide to franchise everything, the identity of the club will be lost. No body will invest £150m and not expect to influence the image and modus operandi of the club.
Hmmmmm.
Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:04 pm
xajax wrote:Woodville Willie wrote:
The club has been sheltered so far by using a council facility for next to nothing but wait till you own it and have the running costs and other overheads to deal with.
The very notion that the board is splitting apart with members leaving could mean that there is a crash waiting to happen. If The yanks come in and decide to franchise everything, the identity of the club will be lost. No body will invest £150m and not expect to influence the image and modus operandi of the club.
Hmmmmm.
Oh the shame, playing in a municipally owned stadium, just like eleven times European Champions AC & Inter Milan, and they are not the only ones. Can you imagine how much better they'd do if they owned their own stadium.
Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:06 pm
Aramore wrote:
AC Milan are building a new stadium
Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:14 pm
xajax wrote:Aramore wrote:
AC Milan are building a new stadium
And so are we, although I'd prefer to rent TBH.
Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:22 am
xajax wrote:Woodville Willie wrote:
The club has been sheltered so far by using a council facility for next to nothing but wait till you own it and have the running costs and other overheads to deal with.
The very notion that the board is splitting apart with members leaving could mean that there is a crash waiting to happen. If The yanks come in and decide to franchise everything, the identity of the club will be lost. No body will invest £150m and not expect to influence the image and modus operandi of the club.
Hmmmmm.
Oh the shame, playing in a municipally owned stadium, just like eleven times European Champions AC & Inter Milan, and they are not the only ones. Can you imagine how much better they'd do if they owned their own stadium.
Splitting apart? Two out two in, thats all.