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" Headlines in Malaysia News "

Mon Dec 29, 2014 1:24 pm

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/mala ... -tan-to-go :thumbright: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Upset with changes, Cardiff City fans say time for Vincent Tan to go
BY LEE SHI-IAN

Published: 29 December 2014

Cardiff City fans say Malaysian tycoon Tan Sri Vincent Tan has destroyed the club's heritage. – Reuters pic, December 29, 2014.



Malaysian tycoon Tan Sri Vincent Tan should sell off his stake in Cardiff City Football club, disgruntled fans said in response to his remarks last Friday urging them to back the club.


The Malaysian Insider had carried excerpts of the interview with Tan, who owns Cardiff City Football Club, by British Sky Sports News.

One of the fans, Richard Llewellyn, said his email response was to raise the awareness of the dreadful state of Cardiff City and the loss of respect and honour on Malaysia as a result of Tan's actions.



He said Tan had arrived in South Wales as a saviour in 2010, saving Cardiff from serious financial trouble by taking over the club.
"Tan was welcomed by an abundance of Malaysians flags throughout the ground in gratitude," Llewellyn said, adding that he was grateful for Tan's investment.

"Sadly Tan, despite the traditional Malaysian respect for heritage and tradition, decided to disregard more than a century of tradition at the club," Llewellyn said.

Tan provoked outrage, anger and protests from thousands of Cardiff fans when he decided to change the club's home kit from blue to red, and the club badge.

The flamboyant Berjaya Group founder justified the changes by saying it was in exchange for his £100 million (RM549 million) investment in the club.

However, Llewellyn said many fans had walked away from the club at this time as they felt the heart of Cardiff had been ripped out by Tan's changes.

He admitted that some fans had accepted the changes wholeheartedly for the Premier League dream, which became reality in the 2012/13 season.

"The overwhelming majority of fans begrudgingly accepted the changes when compared with the potential for the club to cease to exist," Llewellyn said.

But he pointed out that these fans, like himself, had refused to buy any merchandise from the club either in the new colour or with the new club crest.

"Another facet of Tan's takeover which pushed many supporters to continue their support was the promise that debt would be turned to equity."

"This would ensure the safety of the club for many generations to come – as yet this promise remains unfulfilled," Llewellyn said.

Another point which Llewellyn found laughable was Tan's insistence to be covered in glory when the team won promotion in the 2012/13 season.

"While Tan provided former manager Malky Mackay substantial funds to win promotion, he refused to accept any prestige to be passed to anyone other than himself," Llewellyn said.

Llewellyn said Mackay was idolised by the fans as he had led a dedicated, hardworking squad, something which was respected among all football fans.

"But Tan needs to be idolised," Llewellyn said, citing the laughable birthday videos which were produced by his staff.

Furthermore, Llewellyn said, the club's football results this season have been woeful, with the latest setback a 4-2 home defeat to Watford on Sunday night.

"Tan sacked his woeful appointment in Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and appointed a lower league manager who we were assured would unify the squad to better things."

"Given the performances witnessed recently they have unified the squad into apathy and resentment," Llewellyn said.

"Cardiff's incredible loyal and dedicated support has been beaten to the point that apathy reigns and people simple are starting to fall out of love for their club.

There have been fights among supporters, large protests planned and a growing campaign for people to simply stay away until he leaves.

"Tan could have been a hero in South Wales, yet treats the club and fans as irrelevant. A play thing he has gotten bored off.

"The club lost millions in merchandising in our premier league season (2013/14) yet he remains determined to not change his decision and lose face.

"The time has come for Tan to either sell the club to someone that cares or to commit to his promises, convert debt to equity, return to blue and apologise to the fans."

Another fan, Stevie Tarr, said Tan was destroying a historic club for his own entertainment, he was disrespecting a very proud club and its fans and would not listen to reason.

"Please help us fight this vile man and make him listen to the people. He is becoming an embarrassment and bringing shame to Malaysia," he said in his email.

"He thinks because he's rich he can take the club that some people have loved their whole lives and tear it apart."

"His arrogance in indiscriminately destroying our heritage by changing our club colours and badge," said another fan, William Lark.

"His continuing alienation of the club fans does not reflect well on the wonderful Malaysian people."

"His behaviour is dictatorial and he is slowly destroying my wonderful club. He does not allow dissent and is an appalling advert for your beautiful countrymen and women."

Wales Online had on Saturday reported that Tan was the most influential person at Cardiff City as his money talked and whatever he said went, hence the red shirts.

However, Wales Online also pointed out that fans were the most important people in any football club.

"Bluebird (Cardiff's nickname) were there way before Tan became involved and will be there way after he has gone, whenever that may be." – December 29, 2014.

- See more at: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/mala ... 4t3nG.dpuf

Re: headlines in Malaysia news

Mon Dec 29, 2014 1:32 pm

:notworthy: well done lads

Re: headlines in Malaysia news

Mon Dec 29, 2014 1:46 pm

Excellent, hats off to them :ayatollah:

Re: headlines in Malaysia news

Mon Dec 29, 2014 1:50 pm

Interesting article, did you notice the comments ?

Vincent needs to change the colour and the nickname for sure......"Bluebird"...you know what it means in Vincent's dialect???

Seems Nissan had problems selling their Nissan Blubird car, this article explains http://www.motoring-malaysia.com/?cat=1795

Re: headlines in Malaysia news

Mon Dec 29, 2014 1:50 pm

Excellent stuff.
Tan might actually notice this at last.

Re: headlines in Malaysia news

Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:00 pm

Malaysian tycoon Tan Sri Vincent Tan should sell off his stake in Cardiff City Football club, disgruntled fans said in response to his remarks last Friday urging them to back the club. The Malaysian Insider had carried excerpts of the interview with Tan, who owns Cardiff City Football Club, by British Sky Sports News. One of the fans, Richard Llewellyn, said his email response was to raise the awareness of the dreadful state of Cardiff City and the loss of respect and honour on Malaysia as a result of Tan's actions. googletag.cmd.push(function() {googletag.display('div-gpt-ad-1400601790726-3');}); He said Tan had arrived in South Wales as a saviour in 2010, saving Cardiff from serious financial trouble by taking over the club. "Tan was welcomed by an abundance of Malaysians flags throughout the ground in gratitude," Llewellyn said, adding that he was grateful for Tan's investment. "Sadly Tan, despite the traditional Malaysian respect for heritage and tradition, decided to disregard more than a century of tradition at the club," Llewellyn said. Tan provoked outrage, anger and protests from thousands of Cardiff fans when he decided to change the club's home kit from blue to red, and the club badge. The flamboyant Berjaya Group founder justified the changes by saying it was in exchange for his £100 million (RM549 million) investment in the club. However, Llewellyn said many fans had walked away from the club at this time as they felt the heart of Cardiff had been ripped out by Tan's changes. He admitted that some fans had accepted the changes wholeheartedly for the Premier League dream, which became reality in the 2012/13 season. "The overwhelming majority of fans begrudgingly accepted the changes when compared with the potential for the club to cease to exist," Llewellyn said. But he pointed out that these fans, like himself, had refused to buy any merchandise from the club either in the new colour or with the new club crest. "Another facet of Tan's takeover which pushed many supporters to continue their support was the promise that debt would be turned to equity." "This would ensure the safety of the club for many generations to come – as yet this promise remains unfulfilled," Llewellyn said. Another point which Llewellyn found laughable was Tan's insistence to be covered in glory when the team won promotion in the 2012/13 season. "While Tan provided former manager Malky Mackay substantial funds to win promotion, he refused to accept any prestige to be passed to anyone other than himself," Llewellyn said. Llewellyn said Mackay was idolised by the fans as he had led a dedicated, hardworking squad, something which was respected among all football fans. "But Tan needs to be idolised," Llewellyn said, citing the laughable birthday videos which were produced by his staff. Furthermore, Llewellyn said, the club's football results this season have been woeful, with the latest setback a 4-2 home defeat to Watford on Sunday night. "Tan sacked his woeful appointment in Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and appointed a lower league manager who we were assured would unify the squad to better things." "Given the performances witnessed recently they have unified the squad into apathy and resentment," Llewellyn said. "Cardiff's incredible loyal and dedicated support has been beaten to the point that apathy reigns and people simple are starting to fall out of love for their club. There have been fights among supporters, large protests planned and a growing campaign for people to simply stay away until he leaves. "Tan could have been a hero in South Wales, yet treats the club and fans as irrelevant. A play thing he has gotten bored off. "The club lost millions in merchandising in our premier league season (2013/14) yet he remains determined to not change his decision and lose face. "The time has come for Tan to either sell the club to someone that cares or to commit to his promises, convert debt to equity, return to blue and apologise to the fans." Another fan, Stevie Tarr, said Tan was destroying a historic club for his own entertainment, he was disrespecting a very proud club and its fans and would not listen to reason. "Please help us fight this vile man and make him listen to the people. He is becoming an embarrassment and bringing shame to Malaysia," he said in his email. "He thinks because he's rich he can take the club that some people have loved their whole lives and tear it apart." "His arrogance in indiscriminately destroying our heritage by changing our club colours and badge," said another fan, William Lark. "His continuing alienation of the club fans does not reflect well on the wonderful Malaysian people." "His behaviour is dictatorial and he is slowly destroying my wonderful club. He does not allow dissent and is an appalling advert for your beautiful countrymen and women." Wales Online had on Saturday reported that Tan was the most influential person at Cardiff City as his money talked and whatever he said went, hence the red shirts. However, Wales Online also pointed out that fans were the most important people in any football club. "Bluebird (Cardiff's nickname) were there way before Tan became involved and will be there way after he has gone, whenever that may be." – December 29, 2014. - See more at: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/mala ... 6EpTj.dpuf

Re: headlines in Malaysia news

Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:10 pm

Brilliant piece. Well done. Let's hope it gets used by other journalists including the herberts at Wales Off-Line.

Re: headlines in Malaysia news

Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:56 pm

Well done Fred for posting that.

It's also a slap in the face to all the negative people on here who keep harping on that it's too late to protest or do anything.

Keeping the 19:27, bluenorenew, virtually complete blue in the stadium plus the planned protests & events alive proves it's chipping away & having an effect.
Obviously, it's highly doubtful Tan will reverse the rebrand but the more publicity the better.

Re: headlines in Malaysia news

Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:25 pm

Brilliant! :ayatollah: :bluescarf:

Re: " Headlines in Malaysia News "

Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:34 pm

This is what will hurt Tan, Everyone needs to continue to Bombard the Malaysian Press/Asian Press etc :thumbright: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: " Headlines in Malaysia News "

Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:58 pm

Great news, thanks for sharing. :bluescarf:

Re: " Headlines in Malaysia News "

Mon Dec 29, 2014 5:32 pm

Mad to find out that bluebird translated in a form of Chinese means genitalia.

The man must of been a cock too buy us then. :D

Keep up the good work.

Re: " Headlines in Malaysia News "

Mon Dec 29, 2014 5:34 pm

A quick wiki search shows that this 'malaysian insider' online news site is apparently an alternative news source that is kept ruining to take advantage of the malay "government's pledge not to censor the Internet despite its stranglehold on most mass media outlets."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_of_Malaysia

It makes it all the better knowing that he knows the mainstream media over there are under his thumb yet there's genuinely f**k all he can do about the internet sources.

Well done OP!

Re: " Headlines in Malaysia News "

Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:12 pm

who gives a shit what bluebird means in some other country...

it meant alot to us

Re: " Headlines in Malaysia News "

Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:25 pm

bluemoon wrote:who gives a shit what bluebird means in some other country...

it meant alot to us


My thoughts exactly.....but please don't say meant as it does still mean a lot now....being a Bluebird is for life....as if life isn't shit enough without some narcissist trying to make it more so.....Tan has no honour.......but Cardiff fans do!!!!!!!!

Re: " Headlines in Malaysia News "

Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:38 pm

Forever Blue wrote:This is what will hurt Tan, Everyone needs to continue to Bombard the Malaysian Press/Asian Press etc :thumbright: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Agree Annis but without the abuse and racist spurs. Remember the pen is mightier than the sword. Credibility is everything to the Malaysia culture

Re: " Headlines in Malaysia News "

Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:38 pm

:lol: i was in 2 minds about putting meant or means...

sorry about that kinda suited my current mood :lol:

Re: headlines in Malaysia news

Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:39 pm

Military Junta wrote::notworthy: well done lads

Excellent :bluescarf: :bluescarf: - I only e-mailed my quote yesterday - I'm expecting a letter from CCFC any day now cancelling my season ticket :cry:

Re: headlines in Malaysia news

Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:39 pm

Daniel_PT_blues wrote:Excellent, hats off to them :ayatollah:


:thumbup: :bluescarf:

Re: headlines in Malaysia news

Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:51 pm

bognorbluebird wrote:Interesting article, did you notice the comments ?

Vincent needs to change the colour and the nickname for sure......"Bluebird"...you know what it means in Vincent's dialect???

Seems Nissan had problems selling their Nissan Blubird car, this article explains http://www.motoring-malaysia.com/?cat=1795


Read the article... a couple of stand out points from somebody who plainly doesn't know the club or supporters that well...

a couple of his statements caught my eye though

"Changed the club colours... not much of a problem"
"for the english cardiff city fans"... that even annoys me... and I'm English

Re: " Headlines in Malaysia News "

Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:45 pm

Tan losing face or even just the risk of losing face in his own backyard, may well be his achilles heel. Let's hope so :thumbup:
Perhaps where the focus needs to be.
:bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: headlines in Malaysia news

Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:00 am

bognorbluebird wrote:Interesting article, did you notice the comments ?

Vincent needs to change the colour and the nickname for sure......"Bluebird"...you know what it means in Vincent's dialect???

Seems Nissan had problems selling their Nissan Blubird car, this article explains http://www.motoring-malaysia.com/?cat=1795



Sorry mate, this is an absolute pile of incorrect cack. Bluebird in Malaysian is "Lan Niao" and it translates crystal clear to "Bluebird" and ONLY "Bluebird". The word you are referring to is nothing to do with the word "Bluebird" .
It might sound a little similar but there are thousands of words in thousands of dialects' all around the world that sound similar to other words with different meanings.
Here are just a few from the uk ....... Fanny/Funny, Cock/clock, Prick/Pick, Ass/Ask, Shit/Shut, Wank/Want........... Do I need to go on ?
There is absolutely 100% no reason for Mr Tan to have changed our proud emblem other than because of his own self importance.

Re: " Headlines in Malaysia News "

Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:10 am

Inspired and tw*t embarrassed in his own Country :lol:

Re: headlines in Malaysia news

Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:28 am

bognorbluebird wrote:Interesting article, did you notice the comments ?

Seems Nissan had problems selling their Nissan Blubird car, this article explains http://www.motoring-malaysia.com/?cat=1795


Sorry, wrong again mate,

it seems Nissan DIDN'T have any problems selling their "Bluebird" car at all ...............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Bluebird

One of the worlds best selling cars of all time !

But no surprise there though with a proud name like a BLUEBIRD !

:bluescarf:

Re: " Headlines in Malaysia News "

Tue Dec 30, 2014 7:06 am

What's the email address for this paper then? Anyone have a direct link to put up so everyone can easily send one? This is what's needed along with staying away and not renewing.

Re: " Headlines in Malaysia News "

Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:35 am

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: " Headlines in Malaysia News "

Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:10 am

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Re: headlines in Malaysia news

Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:59 am

bognorbluebird wrote:Interesting article, did you notice the comments ?

Vincent needs to change the colour and the nickname for sure......"Bluebird"...you know what it means in Vincent's dialect???

Seems Nissan had problems selling their Nissan Blubird car, this article explains http://www.motoring-malaysia.com/?cat=1795



Good Comment.

Twitter also use a Bluebird logo, and I think their global brand is a lot stronger than that of the car.

Also read this from Indonesia "Blue Bird is the most Trusted Taxi Brand"...so the Bluebird brand is not totally negative in Asia.

http://www.getscoop.com/berita/forbes-i ... i-purnomo/

Bluebird is a great brand for a football club. For a start it is unique. The reality is Tan didn't do his due-diligence properly and completely wasted a unique brand identity opportunity.

The Malaysian article is very good. Tan should back down and unite the club. But he won't because he reacts like a Child not like a mature Businessman. Everyone makes mistakes, we all do. But character comes from how we react to those mistakes.

Being a petty child having a tantrum is pretty much what he is doing, just like the kid at the park saying "it is my ball, I own it , I'm not letting you play with it."