Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:54 pm
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Sat Oct 25, 2014 7:49 am
Bluemellons wrote:You dont half talk some bollocks Carl. Did you go to the Vetch in the 80's and 90's?? The only reason we dont have trouble these days is because no-one wants a 6 year prison sentence for throwing one punch.
Also the CCS is a lovely family stadium. Ninian would have compared to any ground for hostility had it seen premiership action.
I think you have this all wrong.
Sat Oct 25, 2014 7:53 am
Forever Blue wrote:I've been to every derby match at the Jacks grounds since the early 70's and in the old days the atmosphere was right up there with the very best.
In the last 15 years due to massive restrictions many fans have stopped going,they can't be bothered going to what's suppose to be a local derby which in a car etc should take 35-40 mins can now take up to 3 half hours on a bubbled in coach journey. Then the clubs put restrictions on who can buy tickets,were put in an empty ground at least 2 hours before kick off etc
The authorities and our clubs have gone so over the top on the CARDIFF/SWANSEA games that they have slowly killed what was like I said one of the best atmospheres you could ever get.
I still enjoy the CARDIFF/SWANSEA games,but the atmosphere has sadly gone down hill.
Lift all the restrictions and our derby match would go straight back up there with the best
Put any violence aside and just going on the atmosphere,singing etc
The difference now with the Belgrade derby match is there are No real restrictions and even the clubs go out there way to help the atmosphere,plus I've seen some hatred in my time from Rangers/Celtic,Millwall/West Ham etc etc but the hatred between Partizan and Red Star far goes beyond a football match,I personally have never ever witnessed so much hatred in all my life.
Both sets of fans sang for every second of the game and way before and after the game,it was an atmosphere that I've never heard or seen like it before and I will never ever forget it, it was beyond any British derby game.
Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:00 am
Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:03 am
carlccfc wrote:Forever Blue wrote:I've been to every derby match at the Jacks grounds since the early 70's and in the old days the atmosphere was right up there with the very best.
In the last 15 years due to massive restrictions many fans have stopped going,they can't be bothered going to what's suppose to be a local derby which in a car etc should take 35-40 mins can now take up to 3 half hours on a bubbled in coach journey. Then the clubs put restrictions on who can buy tickets,were put in an empty ground at least 2 hours before kick off etc
The authorities and our clubs have gone so over the top on the CARDIFF/SWANSEA games that they have slowly killed what was like I said one of the best atmospheres you could ever get.
I still enjoy the CARDIFF/SWANSEA games,but the atmosphere has sadly gone down hill.
Lift all the restrictions and our derby match would go straight back up there with the best
Put any violence aside and just going on the atmosphere,singing etc
The difference now with the Belgrade derby match is there are No real restrictions and even the clubs go out there way to help the atmosphere,plus I've seen some hatred in my time from Rangers/Celtic,Millwall/West Ham etc etc but the hatred between Partizan and Red Star far goes beyond a football match,I personally have never ever witnessed so much hatred in all my life.
Both sets of fans sang for every second of the game and way before and after the game,it was an atmosphere that I've never heard or seen like it before and I will never ever forget it, it was beyond any British derby game.
So you agree with my thoughts on it then Annis, the atmosphere at the Belgrade Derby is better than our Derby.
So it is not just me that is apparently talking bollocks
Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:05 am
Gaffer wrote:Can people on here stop licking Belgrades areshole embarrassing!!!!
Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:06 am
mr'mogreenz wrote:Take all the restrictions off the sw derby and I bet it would then. Let's not downplay it. If we had the same free role in this country, there would be absolute carnage just like there used to be. It wasn't so long ago UK fans were the most feared In Europe. And for a good reason to
Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:19 am
Southwest Lion wrote:a millwall/west ham derby in mid 80s ....was very lively to ....both had a fan killed on each side ...one stabbed to death ...other pushed in front of a train ...first time i ever saw blokes having pit bull dogs out on the streets after the game ...base ball bats ...axes ect ....blokes going at each other with gum shields in ...even robbing the mobile hot dog sellars of the hot boiling water to throw at each other .....all these european teams are 20 yrs to late ...west ham chelsea millwall cardiff man utd leeds ect ect would all of given them a run for their money alday long
Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:37 am
Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:11 am
Forever Blue wrote:The British football fan
It's now to expensive for many of the working class.
The Authorities have gone way over the top,you get a 3 yr ban for sticking fingers up or even drinking alcohol.
If you in a large group etc or even near some kind of disturbance,you can now end up with a 3 year civil ban.
You get banned now for standing up
I could write a book on the restrictions on football fans in the UK nowadays and that's where the atmosphere is lost.
Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:16 am
Bakedalasker wrote:Forever Blue wrote:The British football fan
It's now to expensive for many of the working class.
The Authorities have gone way over the top,you get a 3 yr ban for sticking fingers up or even drinking alcohol.
If you in a large group etc or even near some kind of disturbance,you can now end up with a 3 year civil ban.
You get banned now for standing up
I could write a book on the restrictions on football fans in the UK nowadays and that's where the atmosphere is lost.
Annis we only have ourselves to blame because we gave the authorities the ammunition to put the restrictions in place.
What you witnessed in Belgrade was an experience BUT it seems to me you guys who went there are not taking into account the segregation and heavy robo cop presence there. Can you imagine how it would have been with out that. Well I can because I witnessed that in the early 70s at Ninian and the streets outside.
Cardiff v Leeds FA cup 1972. 2 hours before KO the ground was practically full. I usually stood behind the goal in the Grandgend but for this game I had to stand in the Bob Bank practically on the corner to the Grangend. Behind me was about 500 Leeds fans, on the corner of the Grangend was about 2,000 Cardiff. The tension was electric and impressive. The corner between both stands was void of anyone. THERE WAS NO POLICE CORDON WHATSOEVER.
The Cardiff broke ranks and it was like watching an army of ants running down a hill. Before I knew it my mates and I were in the middle of it and were literally pushed to the half way line. I recall and handful of cops going into the melee and arresting a few. After that I watched the Cardiff regroup but never saw the Leeds again.
That was one of a few incidents I witnessed when the big following came to Ninian. I believe those days plus the 80 are the ammunition we have given the police to use their totalitarian approach to British football.
Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:17 am
Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:19 am
papa wrote:comparing teams stuck in the seventies to modern day uk teams is bullshit
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Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:38 am
papa wrote:comparing teams stuck in the seventies to modern day uk teams is bullshit
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Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:03 am
Grobari_Partizan wrote:Why you think you will get banned. It is normal civilised communication. As I told you, we respected you British fans. We still respect you even today. Because of that we are honored that we had Cardiff lads with us last week. I can't compare your firms and our firm from 80's, simple we hadn't so many opportunity to see where we were. I just know that English fans 1987. in Belgrade (Yugoslavia - England) had good resistance. You can ask older lads from England about that game. So, you can't equate ex Yugoslavia with other East European countries where football hooliganism started from the end of the 90's. Sorry for my bad English, I hope you understand what I wanted to say.
Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:06 am
Forever Blue wrote:Grobari_Partizan wrote:Why you think you will get banned. It is normal civilised communication. As I told you, we respected you British fans. We still respect you even today. Because of that we are honored that we had Cardiff lads with us last week. I can't compare your firms and our firm from 80's, simple we hadn't so many opportunity to see where we were. I just know that English fans 1987. in Belgrade (Yugoslavia - England) had good resistance. You can ask older lads from England about that game. So, you can't equate ex Yugoslavia with other East European countries where football hooliganism started from the end of the 90's. Sorry for my bad English, I hope you understand what I wanted to say.
Uros and you and your fans showed nothing but the greatest Respect and Hospitality anyone could ever ask for and that I Thank you for
Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:08 am
Forever Blue wrote:Grobari_Partizan wrote:Why you think you will get banned. It is normal civilised communication. As I told you, we respected you British fans. We still respect you even today. Because of that we are honored that we had Cardiff lads with us last week. I can't compare your firms and our firm from 80's, simple we hadn't so many opportunity to see where we were. I just know that English fans 1987. in Belgrade (Yugoslavia - England) had good resistance. You can ask older lads from England about that game. So, you can't equate ex Yugoslavia with other East European countries where football hooliganism started from the end of the 90's. Sorry for my bad English, I hope you understand what I wanted to say.
Uros and you and your fans showed nothing but the greatest Respect and Hospitality anyone could ever ask for and that I Thank you for
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theclaw wrote:Out of interest how much was a ticket?
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theclaw wrote:Out of interest how much was a ticket?
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