EU makes Britain pay £1.8 BILLION for recovery

The Prime Minister is ambushed with a demand for an extra £1.8billion because Britain has outperformed other European economies over past decade.

Sooner we get a referendum on this incompetent pile of crap the better.Thing is they want all this money but then they won't meet us halfway on things like immigration. It's just one bad deal after another with this lot but Nick Clegg, Milliband and call me Dave insist that we're better of in than out.

My initial thought was WTF.....this cant be true,what ballocks those figures are far too high........however

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11184044/EU-makes-Britain-pay-for-recovery.html

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/23/uk-european-commission-eu-budget-contribution

The EU is saying the surcharge comes on top of the net UK contribution to the EU budget, which was £8.6bn in 2013.

the preliminary figures show that

UK pays an extra €2.1bn
Netherlands pays an extra €642m,

Germany receives a rebate of €779m,
France a rebate of €1bn
Poland a rebate of €316m.


EU officials say the calculation simply reflects the longstanding practice of adjusting contributions of countries according to their pace of growth. “Britain’s contribution reflects an increase in wealth, just as in Britain you pay more to the Inland Revenue if your earnings go up,” said Patrizio Fiorilli, a Commission spokesperson.

And not forgetting that Serbia , Albania, Turkey and Ukraine wanting to join the EU in years to come then we will have to pay for their bad economies plus freedom of movement for these countries

Get the English royal family and all of their 'hangers on' parasites to pay it. Sorted.

That could be the final nail in the coffin....time to get us out of the EU.

Get the English royal family and all of their 'hangers on' parasites to pay it. Sorted.

I find that insulting not just because I'm English but towards all the Welsh men and women who have lost their lifes fighting for Queen and country.

Get the English royal family and all of their 'hangers on' parasites to pay it. Sorted.

Actually they are net contributorsto the economy, not a drain as people like Plaid Cymru and labour like to claim. The real drains on our economy are the EU, immigration and foreign aid.

Get the English royal family and all of their 'hangers on' parasites to pay it. Sorted.

Actually they are net contributorsto the economy, not a drain as people like Plaid Cymru and labour like to claim. The real drains on our economy are the EU, immigration and foreign aid.

she contributes hundreds of millions to the economy on tourism alone, everytime we have a royal marriage or baby America falls in love with us again, she takes far less than she gives, could teach you a few things or ten.

Vote UKIP

Get the English royal family and all of their 'hangers on' parasites to pay it. Sorted.

Actually they are net contributorsto the economy, not a drain as people like Plaid Cymru and labour like to claim. The real drains on our economy are the EU, immigration and foreign aid.

Agree vote ukip

Vote UKIP

Well, IF the Conservative Government DO pay up this obscene amount of money (basically a "Success Tax") it will be the cheapest and most effective Party Political Broadcast the Conservatives will have ever held...ON BEHALF OF THE UKIP PARTY!

Not that I shall be voting for either, TBH

Britain out of the EU please

Get the English royal family and all of their 'hangers on' parasites to pay it. Sorted.

I find that insulting not just because I'm English but towards all the Welsh men and women who have lost their lifes fighting for Queen and country.

agree with you

UKIP is not my kind of politics, but on the EU I back them , the false anger by Cameron was laughable, shows how rattled the tories are by the UKIP message on EU.

UKIP is not my kind of politics, but on the EU I back them , the false anger by Cameron was laughable, shows how rattled the tories are by the UKIP message on EU.

Notice how he said he won't pay, yes, he won't before the 1st of December when it's due but he didn't say he'll never pay. He'll pay as he is a mug. This is all mind games to convince the public hes standing up against Europe which in effect he's not, he's saying this to try and convince the Ukip voters that he's a man and will not tolerate being bullied. He must think we are naive and gullible.

He may pull the wool over his party members but it doesn't wash with the public. To late dave, the horse has bolted

Europe. The same Europe that run like faggots when the Nazis came calling, and only Britain came and stood our ground. Yet we now answer to Europe. What a bunch of pussies we are? The sacrifices our forefathers made , yet we still decide to bow down to these coward künts In Brussels or whatever it is.what the fuk is wrong with us? Britain, once rulers of most of the world. Who saved the world in 2 world wars,now reduced to bowing to the kunts we saved. Got to laugh aye. Ruled by fuking Muslims

What recovery is this?

The ordinary british people see no difference, bills are still high,wages are low & thousands of people have to resort to food banks, cuts to essential public services & with the most vunerable in society like the jobless, pensioners & disabled people hounded by a callous & evil goverment.

The only people benefitting from a so called recovery are the rich.

It seems that the British people & other countries affected have had to endure austerity for nothing so we can bail out countries who have not been making these cuts.

its always been the case, and the UK government knew there was a big bill coming from the EU. we've also had rebates in the past because of poor GDP figures.

but despite that, i can safely say that i despise what the EU has morphed into over the years. a bloated, self serving, power hungry bunch of idiots that are trying to create full political and economic union between rich and poor countries.

if we leave, we get back our £15bn or what ever it is yearly membership fee, and we gain full control of key things like immigration policy. and we get to stick two fingers up to smug, arrogant career politicians like jose barroso, who has a clear disdain for the UK, but loves our money and the way we give so much to the EU but get little back.

What recovery is this?

The ordinary british people see no difference, bills are still high,wages are low & thousands of people have to resort to food banks, cuts to essential public services & with the most vunerable in society like the jobless, pensioners & disabled people hounded by a callous & evil goverment.

The only people benefitting from a so called recovery are the rich.

It seems that the British people & other countries affected have had to endure austerity for nothing so we can bail out countries who have not been making these cuts.

please explain to me why you think this is the case.....

don't be a deluded socialist, if we don't have money in the bank we can't dish it out on welfare whether we want to or not, at least the conservatives aren't labour who will put the economy of the country in jeopardy to win votes. Countries like Greece suffered far more than we did which is why they want this money from us, wake up and smell the cheese.

Europe. The same Europe that run like faggots when the Nazis came calling, and only Britain came and stood our ground. Yet we now answer to Europe. What a bunch of pussies we are? The sacrifices our forefathers made , yet we still decide to bow down to these coward künts In Brussels or whatever it is.what the fuk is wrong with us? Britain, once rulers of most of the world. Who saved the world in 2 world wars,now reduced to bowing to the kunts we saved. Got to laugh aye. Ruled by fuking Muslims

This is a depressing thread. So many Welsh people desperately trying to be second rate English Nationalists.

Wales, as a manufacturing country, needs access to the European market of some 400 million people. We should never leave the EU just to appease English Nationalists.

The English Defence League was kicked out of Cardiff and we should do the same with UKIP.

Cymru Am Byth

This is a depressing thread. So many Welsh people desperately trying to be second rate English Nationalists.

Wales, as a manufacturing country, needs access to the European market of some 400 million people. We should never leave the EU just to appease English Nationalists.

The English Defence League was kicked out of Cardiff and we should do the same with UKIP.

Cymru Am Byth

conflating euroscepticism with racism, good job old chap. theres always one

you don't need to be in the EU to benefit from free trade. we import more from the EU than we export to them, so its in the EU's interests to ensure free trade continues, should we leave the EU. your ignorance is painful, but sadly very typical in the UK. i challenge you to put the guardian down and think for yourself.

by the way growth in the EU is stagnant, globally, the opportunities are in the likes of china, india, south america. its those markets we should be targeting.

Fookin right its a depressing thread - our net contribution to the EU is about £8 billion - disgusting, yet loads of mugs here see a sign 'funded by the EU' and think its a winner.

Then Call me Dave almost chipped a fingernail on the lectern.

Dont understand why its a Wales/England thing mate, Comrade Carwyn is and his buffoons are parasites, and the sooner the WAG is demolished the better - its never had a mandate.

What recovery is this?

The ordinary british people see no difference, bills are still high,wages are low & thousands of people have to resort to food banks, cuts to essential public services & with the most vunerable in society like the jobless, pensioners & disabled people hounded by a callous & evil goverment.

The only people benefitting from a so called recovery are the rich.

It seems that the British people & other countries affected have had to endure austerity for nothing so we can bail out countries who have not been making these cuts.

please explain to me why you think this is the case.....

don't be a deluded socialist, if we don't have money in the bank we can't dish it out on welfare whether we want to or not, at least the conservatives aren't labour who will put the economy of the country in jeopardy to win votes. Countries like Greece suffered far more than we did which is why they want this money from us, wake up and smell the cheese.

Nah im not a socialist

But we do seem to have enough money to give the filthy cheating/ scumbag/incompetant politicians a pay rise while the most vunerable in society have to suffer.

I thought we were all in it together.

What recovery is this?

The ordinary british people see no difference, bills are still high,wages are low & thousands of people have to resort to food banks, cuts to essential public services & with the most vunerable in society like the jobless, pensioners & disabled people hounded by a callous & evil goverment.

The only people benefitting from a so called recovery are the rich.

It seems that the British people & other countries affected have had to endure austerity for nothing so we can bail out countries who have not been making these cuts.

please explain to me why you think this is the case.....

don't be a deluded socialist, if we don't have money in the bank we can't dish it out on welfare whether we want to or not, at least the conservatives aren't labour who will put the economy of the country in jeopardy to win votes. Countries like Greece suffered far more than we did which is why they want this money from us, wake up and smell the cheese.

Nah im not a socialist

But we do seem to have enough money to give the filthy cheating/ scumbag/incompetant politicians a pay rise while the most vunerable in society have to suffer.

I thought we were all in it together.

I disagree with your point the rich are benefiting, the more you earn the greater taxes you pay why should you get taxed to death the harder you work yet the people who sit on they're arses all day benefit from your wealth ? (I mean the percentage that have never worked and never want to work that is)

What recovery is this?

The ordinary british people see no difference, bills are still high,wages are low & thousands of people have to resort to food banks, cuts to essential public services & with the most vunerable in society like the jobless, pensioners & disabled people hounded by a callous & evil goverment.

The only people benefitting from a so called recovery are the rich.

It seems that the British people & other countries affected have had to endure austerity for nothing so we can bail out countries who have not been making these cuts.

please explain to me why you think this is the case.....

don't be a deluded socialist, if we don't have money in the bank we can't dish it out on welfare whether we want to or not, at least the conservatives aren't labour who will put the economy of the country in jeopardy to win votes. Countries like Greece suffered far more than we did which is why they want this money from us, wake up and smell the cheese.

Nah im not a socialist

But we do seem to have enough money to give the filthy cheating/ scumbag/incompetant politicians a pay rise while the most vunerable in society have to suffer.

I thought we were all in it together.

I disagree with your point the rich are benefiting, the more you earn the greater taxes you pay why should you get taxed to death the harder you work yet the people who sit on they're arses all day benefit from your wealth ? (I mean the percentage that have never worked and never want to work that is)

I pay my tax as PAYE, no accountants to minimise my bill and no limited company paying me a dividend to reduce my tax bill further. Also alot of taxes such as VAT are regressive, stick 20% on something and that's a bigger chunk of my income gone on VAT than your high rate tax payers. The rich also benefitted from an almost immediate income tax cut under this government if my memory serves me correctly?

What recovery is this?

The ordinary british people see no difference, bills are still high,wages are low & thousands of people have to resort to food banks, cuts to essential public services & with the most vunerable in society like the jobless, pensioners & disabled people hounded by a callous & evil goverment.

The only people benefitting from a so called recovery are the rich.

It seems that the British people & other countries affected have had to endure austerity for nothing so we can bail out countries who have not been making these cuts.

please explain to me why you think this is the case.....

don't be a deluded socialist, if we don't have money in the bank we can't dish it out on welfare whether we want to or not, at least the conservatives aren't labour who will put the economy of the country in jeopardy to win votes. Countries like Greece suffered far more than we did which is why they want this money from us, wake up and smell the cheese.

Nah im not a socialist

But we do seem to have enough money to give the filthy cheating/ scumbag/incompetant politicians a pay rise while the most vunerable in society have to suffer.

I thought we were all in it together.

I disagree with your point the rich are benefiting, the more you earn the greater taxes you pay why should you get taxed to death the harder you work yet the people who sit on they're arses all day benefit from your wealth ? (I mean the percentage that have never worked and never want to work that is)

I pay my tax as PAYE, no accountants to minimise my bill and no limited company paying me a dividend to reduce my tax bill further. Also alot of taxes such as VAT are regressive, stick 20% on something and that's a bigger chunk of my income gone on VAT than your high rate tax payers. The rich also benefitted from an almost immediate income tax cut under this government if my memory serves me correctly?

Companies not only pay Corporation tax they also pay National Insurance for every employee they take on. PAYE comes at a cost from an accountant so does filing your end of year accounts. Small businesses cannot afford to suffer the effects of sick pay since the law changed last year where there is no recovery. It's the banks that cause strife and the city of London who enjoy playing bingo with Tax payers money.

VAT is regressive but it should be split between high value goods and services and everyday essential items for working people 10% cut for the bottom and a 10% increase to the top is logical it will also impact on the black economy.

VAT is regressive but it should be split between high value goods and services and everyday essential items for working people 10% cut for the bottom and a 10% increase to the top is logical it will also impact on the black economy.

Funnily enough that was a UKIP policy idea but only for 48 hours until Farage quashed it! I agree huge difference between essentials and luxury goods but they are taxed the same. What annoys me is companies like Google, Amazon and Facebook making huge profits oftern using public infrastructure but paying virtually no Corporation tax by moving profits round the EU.

can any europhiles tell me why the 6th biggest economy in the world will not have any clout on the world stage?