' MINI-UPDATE FRIDAY OCTOBER 10th 2014 '

' MINI-UPDATE FRIDAY OCTOBER 10th 2014 '

Up to 30 Welsh supporters are receiving 4 match bans, 6 month bans and 3 year civil bans for the celebratory pitch invasion against Andorra. Letters are in the process of being sent out and some have already been received informing fans of what punishment is being handed out to them, the majority of the 30 fans are from North Wales, a small number of Cardiff City fans have already received their bans and a couple of City fans are appearing in court next week.

Some good news, the Birmingham and Millwall games, home and away, have had ALL restrictions lifted, not even a RV. We have gone away from full bubble trips against those teams to no restrictions.

Leeds will remain a semi bubble, which means it will be a voucher exchange at the service station and then those travelling on coaches will be escorted to the stadium. Leeds fans are fuming about the voucher exchange and that they are only receiving 2,100 tickets.

The use of e-cigs being used in our stadium is under review, it was discussed at the travel group meeting last night and even though the club had thought of banning them, the supporters group unanimously voted against banning them, the club will now wait until March 1st 2015 when the Welsh Assembly will announce its plans for e-cigs.

Russell Slade is looking to bring in 3-4 loan players from the Championship and lower leagues, players who are up for a battle, players who will fight, be aggressive because he feels Cardiff City are a soft touch at present. Slade already knows the players he wants to bring in.

Slade has been told that he must sell players or release players on loan to raise money if he wishes to buy any new players.

Tan is still keeping the club afloat as he is putting in several million pounds a month as there is a shortfall each month.

Scott Young's contract to become part of the coaching staff is still there, even though Slade wants Kevin Nugent to join. Regarding Gabbidon is future as a coach is unclear even though he currently has a contract as a player/coach.

When they say there is a shortfall every month, do they take in to account the 20 million we get from sky or does he just pocket that and say gates are down so we are losing money? It's his fault anyway, just blew millions on an untied manager and got us relegated....who cares eh....

Mate of mine has been given a 3 game ban from wales starting from tonight and has been told thats how far the welsh fa want to take it but is in court next week with SWP looking to take it further.

Tan is putting in several million per month have a little sit down get a calculator out and have a think what a load of nonsense again

Tan is putting in several million per month have a little sit down get a calculator out and have a think what a load of nonsense again

What's a load of nonsense,fella??

Tan is putting in several million per month have a little sit down get a calculator out and have a think what a load of nonsense again

Deano, Perhaps the over heads of our club are massive and are much higher than we realise?

If you take 40 players on 40k per week that's only 1.6 million don't forget we do have incoming and parachute payments plus sky money it dosent add up

If you take 40 players on 40k per week that's only 1.6 million don't forget we do have incoming and parachute payments plus sky money it dosent add up

I agree, but at a meeting with some City fans and our Chairman they were told this, so we will just have to wait on last years accounts and this years to see the truth

I do believe our clubs over heads are way to high for a Championship Club.

When they say there is a shortfall every month, do they take in to account the 20 million we get from sky or does he just pocket that and say gates are down so we are losing money? It's his fault anyway, just blew millions on an untied manager and got us relegated....who cares eh....

Goats, My personal opinion is the club is still not run financially well and is losing more money than ever, even after us being in the Premier League, we should now be breaking even or making a profit.

3-4 grafters!!! Okay. But is this at the expense of quality - as quality is also needed to be successful. In what positions are these? If these grafters come in - who goes out? I am VERY wary of getting mediocrity. I have an idea - Conway, SuperKev, Cowie etc. players we should never have got rid of.

It's an absolute discrace that with the size and quality of this squad, it's felt that another 4 players have to be brought in

3-4 grafters!!! Okay. But is this at the expense of quality - as quality is also needed to be successful. In what positions are these? If these grafters come in - who goes out? I am VERY wary of getting mediocrity. I have an idea - Conway, SuperKev, Cowie etc. players we should never have got rid of.

and Mark Hudson....

We didn't get rid of Cowie, we offered him a contract, he declined, what's not to get

We didn't get rid of Cowie, we offered him a contract, he declined, what's not to get

Perhaps it was a shit offer with F**k off written all over it

Mate of mine has been given a 3 game ban from wales starting from tonight and has been told thats how far the welsh fa want to take it but is in court next week with SWP looking to take it further.

Why are SWP involving themselves?

We didn't get rid of Cowie, we offered him a contract, he declined, what's not to get

Perhaps it was a shit offer with F**k off written all over it

The club want to establish themselves as a decent Championship club, so will get rid of Premier League players on our books, for grafters from the championship and league one (at least one from Leyton Orient). We are going back to basics as they don't want to be a yoyo club between league one and the championship, they want to be a decent established Championship club, as they believe this is our rightful level and don't want to be a league one or two club anymore, not with a stadium that has 33,500 they need to fill the empty seats and the lower two leagues won't to this

If you take 40 players on 40k per week that's only 1.6 million don't forget we do have incoming and parachute payments plus sky money it dosent add up

I agree, but at a meeting with some City fans and our Chairman they were told this, so we will just have to wait on last years accounts and this years to see the truth

I do believe our clubs over heads are way to high for a Championship Club.

Annis

I was at that meeting and Mehmet Dalman did not say Vincent Tan was putting in several £m a month.

Because the club is having the benefit of £23m in parachute payments this season and got good money for the players it sold, it expects to pnly make a small loss this season (as opposed to a loss of over £30m the last time we were in the Championship). Because of these benefits the club expects to comply with the Financial Fair Play Rules of just a small loss. Next season may well be far worse as the parachute payments reduce and with alikely fall off in commercial sponsorship etc.

Vincent Tan may be putting some money in (but certainly not several £m a month) to bridge the time gap in cashflows between paying out wages and other costs and getting the Sky money in. Mehmet Dalman also said he had put some of his own money in for the same reason.

Two big areas where cash payments will be reduced arise from a halt to finishing off the new stand (completing the fitting out etc) and a complete halt to the new training ground project. Personally , i always regarded both these projects as "vanity projects" of Vincent Tan`s rather than of real benefit to the club and I said so at the meeting.

Keith
Keith

If you take 40 players on 40k per week that's only 1.6 million don't forget we do have incoming and parachute payments plus sky money it dosent add up

I agree, but at a meeting with some City fans and our Chairman they were told this, so we will just have to wait on last years accounts and this years to see the truth

I do believe our clubs over heads are way to high for a Championship Club.

Annis

I was at that meeting and Mehmet Dalman did not say Vincent Tan was putting in several £m a month.

Because the club is having the benefit of £23m in parachute payments this season and got good money for the players it sold, it expects to pnly make a small loss this season (as opposed to a loss of over £30m the last time we were in the Championship). Because of these benefits the club expects to comply with the Financial Fair Play Rules of just a small loss. Next season may well be far worse as the parachute payments reduce and with alikely fall off in commercial sponsorship etc.

Vincent Tan may be putting some money in (but certainly not several £m a month) to bridge the time gap in cashflows between paying out wages and other costs and getting the Sky money in. Mehmet Dalman also said he had put some of his own money in for the same reason.

Two big areas where cash payments will be reduced arise from a halt to finishing off the new stand (completing the fitting out etc) and a complete halt to the new training ground project. Personally , i always regarded both these projects as "vanity projects" of Vincent Tan`s rather than of real benefit to the club and I said so at the meeting.

Keith
Keith

Hi Keith,

It was Vince who told me, only the other week,including Dalman saying he had put a few million in as well.

Cheers

Annis Jnr

If you take 40 players on 40k per week that's only 1.6 million don't forget we do have incoming and parachute payments plus sky money it dosent add up

I agree, but at a meeting with some City fans and our Chairman they were told this, so we will just have to wait on last years accounts and this years to see the truth

I do believe our clubs over heads are way to high for a Championship Club.

Annis

I was at that meeting and Mehmet Dalman did not say Vincent Tan was putting in several £m a month.

Because the club is having the benefit of £23m in parachute payments this season and got good money for the players it sold, it expects to pnly make a small loss this season (as opposed to a loss of over £30m the last time we were in the Championship). Because of these benefits the club expects to comply with the Financial Fair Play Rules of just a small loss. Next season may well be far worse as the parachute payments reduce and with alikely fall off in commercial sponsorship etc.

Vincent Tan may be putting some money in (but certainly not several £m a month) to bridge the time gap in cashflows between paying out wages and other costs and getting the Sky money in. Mehmet Dalman also said he had put some of his own money in for the same reason.

Two big areas where cash payments will be reduced arise from a halt to finishing off the new stand (completing the fitting out etc) and a complete halt to the new training ground project. Personally , i always regarded both these projects as "vanity projects" of Vincent Tan`s rather than of real benefit to the club and I said so at the meeting.

Keith
Keith

Hi Keith,

It was Vince who told me, only the other week,including Dalman saying he had put a few million in as well.

Cheers

Annis Jnr [/quoteI

i have just looked at my notes of the meeting again and Mehmet definitely didn`t say that VT was putting in several £m a month. And Ken Choo definitely did say that the club should stay within the FFP requirements which means it cannot lose more than a few £m over the season as a whole. It was said that both VT and MD were putting cash in , but this is only like a bridging loan while the club waits for other money it is due in.

I can`t check my notes against the official minutes as some weeks after the meeting and despite a few prompts from the Trust to produce them , they have still not been circulated around those who attended.

If you take 40 players on 40k per week that's only 1.6 million don't forget we do have incoming and parachute payments plus sky money it dosent add up

I agree, but at a meeting with some City fans and our Chairman they were told this, so we will just have to wait on last years accounts and this years to see the truth

I do believe our clubs over heads are way to high for a Championship Club.

Annis

I was at that meeting and Mehmet Dalman did not say Vincent Tan was putting in several £m a month.

Because the club is having the benefit of £23m in parachute payments this season and got good money for the players it sold, it expects to pnly make a small loss this season (as opposed to a loss of over £30m the last time we were in the Championship). Because of these benefits the club expects to comply with the Financial Fair Play Rules of just a small loss. Next season may well be far worse as the parachute payments reduce and with alikely fall off in commercial sponsorship etc.

Vincent Tan may be putting some money in (but certainly not several £m a month) to bridge the time gap in cashflows between paying out wages and other costs and getting the Sky money in. Mehmet Dalman also said he had put some of his own money in for the same reason.

Two big areas where cash payments will be reduced arise from a halt to finishing off the new stand (completing the fitting out etc) and a complete halt to the new training ground project. Personally , i always regarded both these projects as "vanity projects" of Vincent Tan`s rather than of real benefit to the club and I said so at the meeting.

Keith
Keith

Hi Keith,

It was Vince who told me, only the other week,including Dalman saying he had put a few million in as well.

Cheers

Annis Jnr [/quoteI

i have just looked at my notes of the meeting again and Mehmet definitely didn`t say that VT was putting in several £m a month. And Ken Choo definitely did say that the club should stay within the FFP requirements which means it cannot lose more than a few £m over the season as a whole. It was said that both VT and MD were putting cash in , but this is only like a bridging loan while the club waits for other money it is due in.

I can`t check my notes against the official minutes as some weeks after the meeting and despite a few prompts from the Trust to produce them , they have still not been circulated around those who attended.

Fair enough Keith

Vince didnt say when he was told, but he def said Tan was putting several mill a month in.

So do u think the club is making or losing money at this present moment?

Mate of mine has been given a 3 game ban from wales starting from tonight and has been told thats how far the welsh fa want to take it but is in court next week with SWP looking to take it further.

Why are SWP involving themselves?

Couldnt tell you they are pushing for a 3 year banning order though, bit petty if you ask me.

I am not condoning the celebration at Andorra but, from a legal perspective, I do have to question whether anyone in this country can enforce any sort of ban as the offence was committed OUTSIDE of the UK JURISDICTION.

If an offence happened in Andorra and a person is found guilty in Andorra then surely it will be up to the Andorran Courts to impose an appropriate penalty/fine.

Any decision by UK Authorities to add an additional punishment on top is, in my opinion:
a) A penalty not authorised by the Courts of Andorra or;
b) A penalty imposed without trial - and therefore in Contravention of Human Rights.

' MINI-UPDATE FRIDAY OCTOBER 10th 2014 '

Up to 30 Welsh supporters are receiving 4 match bans, 6 month bans and 3 year civil bans for the celebratory pitch invasion against Andorra. Letters are in the process of being sent out and some have already been received informing fans of what punishment is being handed out to them, the majority of the 30 fans are from North Wales, a small number of Cardiff City fans have already received their bans and a couple of City fans are appearing in court next week.

Some good news, the Birmingham and Millwall games, home and away, have had ALL restrictions lifted, not even a RV. We have gone away from full bubble trips against those teams to no restrictions.

Leeds will remain a semi bubble, which means it will be a voucher exchange at the service station and then those travelling on coaches will be escorted to the stadium. Leeds fans are fuming about the voucher exchange and that they are only receiving 2,100 tickets.

The use of e-cigs being used in our stadium is under review, it was discussed at the travel group meeting last night and even though the club had thought of banning them, the supporters group unanimously voted against banning them, the club will now wait until March 1st 2015 when the Welsh Assembly will announce its plans for e-cigs.

Russell Slade is looking to bring in 3-4 loan players from the Championship and lower leagues, players who are up for a battle, players who will fight, be aggressive because he feels Cardiff City are a soft touch at present. Slade already knows the players he wants to bring in.

Slade has been told that he must sell players or release players on loan to raise money if he wishes to buy any new players.

Tan is still keeping the club afloat as he is putting in several million pounds a month as there is a shortfall each month.

Scott Young's contract to become part of the coaching staff is still there, even though Slade wants Kevin Nugent to join. Regarding Gabbidon is future as a coach is unclear even though he currently has a contract as a player/coach.

Leeds fans have been given tickets and not vouchers this i can confirm as my mate is a leeds fan and has just had a ticket through the post

only rv for the traveling on bus most leeds come via train so should be a little different in town that day with thos lot everywhere

Most prob be taken into the great western or walkabout can`t see the police given them the freedom of the city

' MINI-UPDATE FRIDAY OCTOBER 10th 2014 '

Up to 30 Welsh supporters are receiving 4 match bans, 6 month bans and 3 year civil bans for the celebratory pitch invasion against Andorra. Letters are in the process of being sent out and some have already been received informing fans of what punishment is being handed out to them, the majority of the 30 fans are from North Wales, a small number of Cardiff City fans have already received their bans and a couple of City fans are appearing in court next week.

Some good news, the Birmingham and Millwall games, home and away, have had ALL restrictions lifted, not even a RV. We have gone away from full bubble trips against those teams to no restrictions.

Leeds will remain a semi bubble, which means it will be a voucher exchange at the service station and then those travelling on coaches will be escorted to the stadium. Leeds fans are fuming about the voucher exchange and that they are only receiving 2,100 tickets.

The use of e-cigs being used in our stadium is under review, it was discussed at the travel group meeting last night and even though the club had thought of banning them, the supporters group unanimously voted against banning them, the club will now wait until March 1st 2015 when the Welsh Assembly will announce its plans for e-cigs.

Russell Slade is looking to bring in 3-4 loan players from the Championship and lower leagues, players who are up for a battle, players who will fight, be aggressive because he feels Cardiff City are a soft touch at present. Slade already knows the players he wants to bring in.

Slade has been told that he must sell players or release players on loan to raise money if he wishes to buy any new players.

Tan is still keeping the club afloat as he is putting in several million pounds a month as there is a shortfall each month.

Scott Young's contract to become part of the coaching staff is still there, even though Slade wants Kevin Nugent to join. Regarding Gabbidon is future as a coach is unclear even though he currently has a contract as a player/coach.

Leeds fans have been given tickets and not vouchers this i can confirm as my mate is a leeds fan and has just had a ticket through the post

only rv for the traveling on bus most leeds come via train so should be a little different in town that day with thos lot everywhere

Most prob be taken into the great western or walkabout can`t see the police given them the freedom of the city

You are right it is only those who travel on coaches and mini buses and comply with police guidelines that are the ones who are penalised.

3 year civil ban is horrendous.. What happened when we all went on the pitch during the promotion season (I never did of course) if anyone reads this

3 year civil ban is horrendous.. What happened when we all went on the pitch during the promotion season (I never did of course) if anyone reads this

Danny totally agree, 3 yrs for a harmless celebration that hurt no one

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