Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:46 pm
Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:37 am
A block wrote:My opinion is stay out of it and this is why:
The birth of ISIS is a result of the Iraq war. We went to Iraq, killing millions, ruining families, friendships, homes and leaving people with no sense of value. This made it easy to brainwash vulnerable people into becoming terrorists.
By going over there and bombing them with air strikes we are just starting the same cycle again. We are feeding the ideology and making it easier for them to recruit new fighters.
As harsh as it sounds, I think we should leave the Middle East to fight ISIS. Hopefully, they win. If not the people will be suppressed for years and it will be up to them to change things through a revolution. Through suppression people will want change, the ideology will eventually fade out.
War is never the answer.
Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:34 am
Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:07 am
angelis1949 wrote:The same old left wing garbage, and to compare Israel with IS is an insult
Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:48 pm
angelis1949 wrote:The same old left wing garbage, and to compare Israel with IS is an insult
Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:57 pm
1922 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:1922 wrote:It is a tricky one isn't it?
The biggest problem for ages is the fact we think that our culture is the ONE. We think others should be the same. It is hard for us to understand that cultures of Africa, Middle East, and other continents are just different then ours... The biggest problem is we fail to understand - IT'S FINE.
For years we were killing, stealing, in the name of 'our god' our culture and we tried to change people for all the bad reasons.
All I am trying to say is, we created the mess, we can't clean anymore.
(Un) Islamic 'State' clearly is the most shocking outcome of wars started by Western World. We are responsible.
Question, what do we do with this responsibility? For me A block speaks a lot of sense. I remember welcoming news that USA will bomb ISIS with applause, but more and more I think about it. I'm not so sure... I mean, wasn't UIS created in aftermath of wars in Iraq and Syria? Who are we creating now?
If not bombing, what then? Arming other groups in the region? But, don't UIS get their money from US and us, wasn't they shown as 'good guys' rebels who fight an evil dictator in Syria? Who would we support now?
Leaving this circle is quite difficult thing to do.
I would lie if I would say I have an clear opinion on what should we do... I think I am still trying to understand more for myself.
But I think the closest I am to opinion of A block who says:A block wrote:
As harsh as it sounds, I think we should leave the Middle East to fight ISIS. Hopefully, they win. If not the people will be suppressed for years and it will be up to them to change things through a revolution. Through suppression people will want change, the ideology will eventually fade out.
War is never the answer.
Bart, Correct we keep creating the mess and the problems by interfering in other countries and their laws and religions, none of our business.
The most scary fact is that Britain helped to create USA
Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:00 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Protect Palestine Annis who are run by a terrorist organisation called Hammas. We should not of gone into Iraq full stop. Saddam was an evil dictator but kept those that are was very dangerous under control. Now we have created a monster and they need to be wiped out. They are dangerous and do you think they are going to stop in Iraq ? No and they need to be dealt with. Unfortunately we now have to deal with what Blair and Friends have done.
Nukes, they are not terrorists they have been elected by the people of Palestine
In this Country, freedom of speech no longer exists as you for one very well know.
We Britain and the USA have created a monster and caused most of the problems in Iraq by invading it in the first place.