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Postby Forever Blue » Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:24 am

Israel have now massacred over 1,200 Palestinian Families, surely now UN/USA/THE WORLD has to put a stop to this :evil: :evil:

This is how it all started weeks ago
http://itspalestinenotisrael.wordpress. ... li-terror/ :evil:

Since then over 1,200 innocent Palestinian families are now dead,100's of homes blown up including schools and even part of a hospital, whilst 40 Israeli soldiers are killed and 4 innocent Israeli people.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mR1LGoNg5p4

Palestine belongs to the Palestinians and they should be allowed to rule themselves, plus Israel have continually stolen their land for over 60 years, no wonder the Palestinians try to stand up for themselves.
Most of Israel was originally Palestinian land.

Why is the World letting this happen?
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Postby johnnyjan4-69 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:16 am

Tell Hamas to stop bombing Israel and perhaps it wil stop now,if only it was as simple as that
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Postby Svenman87 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:35 am

If we're going by numbers - Syria should be a more serious issue for people yet no one seems to care much at all and it doesn't really even make the news anymore.

Over 170,000 people estimated to have died thus far.

But... I guess we should care about what the media choses to report on this week.
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Postby AJ1927 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:21 am

Meanwhile in Syria......




Football and politics.... Not a good mix sir... :wave:
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Postby bluebirdoct1962 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:40 am

Forever Blue wrote:Israel have now massacred over 1,200 Palestinian Families, surely now UN/USA/THE WORLD has to put a stop to this :evil: :evil:

This is how it all started weeks ago
http://itspalestinenotisrael.wordpress. ... li-terror/ :evil:

Since then over 1,200 innocent Palestinian families are now dead,100's of homes blown up including schools and even part of a hospital, whilst 40 Israeli soldiers are killed and 4 innocent Israeli people.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mR1LGoNg5p4

Palestine belongs to the Palestinians and they should be allowed to rule themselves, plus Israel have continually stolen their land for over 60 years, no wonder the Palestinians try to stand up for themselves.
Most of Israel was originally Palestinian land.

Why is the World letting this happen?

Worryingly, there's no chance of this, Annis. The USA is practically run by Jews. I have a horrible feeling that there's going to be a sort of 'stand off' with everyone afraid to get involved. With this comes the unfortunate suffering of thousands. :cry:
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Postby Forever Blue » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:10 pm

AJ1927 wrote:Meanwhile in Syria......




Football and politics.... Not a good mix sir... :wave:


I agree Tony, just had to et it off my chest :thumbup:
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Postby Forever Blue » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:11 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Israel have now massacred over 1,200 Palestinian Families, surely now UN/USA/THE WORLD has to put a stop to this :evil: :evil:

This is how it all started weeks ago
http://itspalestinenotisrael.wordpress. ... li-terror/ :evil:

Since then over 1,200 innocent Palestinian families are now dead,100's of homes blown up including schools and even part of a hospital, whilst 40 Israeli soldiers are killed and 4 innocent Israeli people.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mR1LGoNg5p4

Palestine belongs to the Palestinians and they should be allowed to rule themselves, plus Israel have continually stolen their land for over 60 years, no wonder the Palestinians try to stand up for themselves.
Most of Israel was originally Palestinian land.

Why is the World letting this happen?

Worryingly, there's no chance of this, Annis. The USA is practically run by Jews. I have a horrible feeling that there's going to be a sort of 'stand off' with everyone afraid to get involved. With this comes the unfortunate suffering of thousands. :cry:


That's sadly exactly what is happening.
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Postby Dicey » Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:39 pm

Had it been one of Oil countries the US would of been in there. Add to that the amount of wealthy Jewish folk/communities in the US. They didn't enter Syria because they have Russian backing and own most of the Syrian ports.... it all stinks of double standards.
Hamas are clearly looking to sacrifice their own people to start something bigger. Israel don't need an excuse to wipe these guys off the map.
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Postby BLUEBIRD57 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:48 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Israel have now massacred over 1,200 Palestinian Families, surely now UN/USA/THE WORLD has to put a stop to this :evil: :evil:

This is how it all started weeks ago
http://itspalestinenotisrael.wordpress. ... li-terror/ :evil:

Since then over 1,200 innocent Palestinian families are now dead,100's of homes blown up including schools and even part of a hospital, whilst 40 Israeli soldiers are killed and 4 innocent Israeli people.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mR1LGoNg5p4

Palestine belongs to the Palestinians and they should be allowed to rule themselves, plus Israel have continually stolen their land for over 60 years, no wonder the Palestinians try to stand up for themselves.
Most of Israel was originally Palestinian land.

Why is the World letting this happen?


Well if you can answer your last question then you've probably answered a question that's vexed the world for a long time.I remember the first gulf war and Saddam tried to get Israel invovled.Hammas is trying to do the same thing.They think the wider arab world will come to their rescue.
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Postby SwampCCFC » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:11 pm

sadly there will never be peace there. israel will doggedly cling on to their jewish state using its military and gaza will not stop its campaign until the state of israel is wiped off the map.

did the USA steal its land off the native indians? did australia steal its land off the native aborigines? can of worms for you there :sleepy2:
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Postby simon.wiesenthal » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:16 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Israel have now massacred over 1,200 Palestinian Families, surely now UN/USA/THE WORLD has to put a stop to this :evil: :evil:

This is how it all started weeks ago
http://itspalestinenotisrael.wordpress. ... li-terror/ :evil:

Since then over 1,200 innocent Palestinian families are now dead,100's of homes blown up including schools and even part of a hospital, whilst 40 Israeli soldiers are killed and 4 innocent Israeli people.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mR1LGoNg5p4

Palestine belongs to the Palestinians and they should be allowed to rule themselves, plus Israel have continually stolen their land for over 60 years, no wonder the Palestinians try to stand up for themselves.
Most of Israel was originally Palestinian land.

Why is the World letting this happen?



right now............if you were head of Hamas.........would you KNOW DAMN WELL that sending a cell into Israel and killing Israely soldiers will result in many more of your friends,family,countrymen/women/children losing their lives.?
absolutely everyone knows the answer.......
but it continues...???????????

no wonder they try to stand up for themselves......is that what is happening?,
were these dead children standing up for themselves or are the loses calculated and the dead sacrificed by men that STAND behind civilians......
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Postby simon.wiesenthal » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:22 pm

SwampCCFC wrote:sadly there will never be peace there. israel will doggedly cling on to their jewish state using its military and gaza will not stop its campaign until the state of israel is wiped off the map.

did the USA steal its land off the native indians? did australia steal its land off the native aborigines? can of worms for you there :sleepy2:


why is English our first language in Wales lets try...............like it or not we are an integrated people...
Israel has been a state for nearly 70 years.. how far do people want to go back?
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Postby SwampCCFC » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:24 pm

all i know is that the first stop for anyone looking for unbiased reporting on this conflict should flock to a news outlet named 'itspalestinenotisrael'. :sleepy2:
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Postby Denzil » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:29 pm

The whole world should be ashamed of itself,women and children dying, young girls kidnapped in africa, children dying all over the word for the lack of clean water and £1 worth of tablets..........the money rich countries are only interested in oil and money.I despair of it all.
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Postby Steve the Tea TM (c) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:49 pm

Annis, it could have stopped before it started. This is not of Israel's making but Hamas. After, in 2005, giving the Arabs all of Gaza, uprooting and making homeless, thousands of Jews all the PLO/Hamas have done is to fire a nonstop barrage of rockets and missiles into S Israel. At anytime since then, had Hamas stopped the assault there would have been peace. Theses Arabs were given the land but it is not land they want but the eradication of Israel. I think you are saying that it's ok for the Arabs to unilaterally attack Israel but not for Israel to respond. Where would that position have left Europe in 1939? Some 3/4s of the Israeli population is now within striking range of the Hamas arsenal. Transposed on to Britain that's the equivalent of 47,000,000 of Britain's population.

Unless it has passed some's notice the IDF has, this week, uncovered a plot by Hamas to utilise her tunnel network to attemp to inflict 10,000 Jewish deaths. What are Israel to do in light of this? Nothing? Some think so.

Clearly these are very difficult days and I'm not knocking at one side and thinking the other is whiter than white. I am really saddened for the ordinary Arab population in Gaza who are saddled with the Hamas' leadership. I for one hope this terrible situation is resolved as soon as possible but it won't while one side has honoured 5 ceasefires and one continued their bombardment.

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Postby Chip shop Alley » Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:10 pm

Spot on Steve. Israel are most probably 1 of the most ruthless countries in the world If they come under threat. No safe protocols.
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Postby AHERNE » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:22 pm

simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Israel have now massacred over 1,200 Palestinian Families, surely now UN/USA/THE WORLD has to put a stop to this :evil: :evil:

This is how it all started weeks ago
http://itspalestinenotisrael.wordpress. ... li-terror/ :evil:

Since then over 1,200 innocent Palestinian families are now dead,100's of homes blown up including schools and even part of a hospital, whilst 40 Israeli soldiers are killed and 4 innocent Israeli people.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mR1LGoNg5p4

Palestine belongs to the Palestinians and they should be allowed to rule themselves, plus Israel have continually stolen their land for over 60 years, no wonder the Palestinians try to stand up for themselves.
Most of Israel was originally Palestinian land.

Why is the World letting this happen?



right now............if you were head of Hamas.........would you KNOW DAMN WELL that sending a cell into Israel and killing Israely soldiers will result in many more of your friends,family,countrymen/women/children losing their lives.?
absolutely everyone knows the answer.......
but it continues...???????????

no wonder they try to stand up for themselves......is that what is happening?,
were these dead children standing up for themselves or are the loses calculated and the dead sacrificed by men that STAND behind civilians......

you can continue all you like sticking up for israel simon but its now falling of deaf ears .... you cant keep defending a nation that kills children .... for to do so your making yourself look like a heartless c**t and im sure thats not what you are! ... i`ll repeat THERES IS NO ARGUMENT FOR THE KILLING OF CHILDREN ..... NONE WHATSOEVER!
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Postby AHERNE » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:23 pm

Steve the Tea TM (c) wrote:Annis, it could have stopped before it started. This is not of Israel's making but Hamas. After, in 2005, giving the Arabs all of Gaza, uprooting and making homeless, thousands of Jews all the PLO/Hamas have done is to fire a nonstop barrage of rockets and missiles into S Israel. At anytime since then, had Hamas stopped the assault there would have been peace. Theses Arabs were given the land but it is not land they want but the eradication of Israel. I think you are saying that it's ok for the Arabs to unilaterally attack Israel but not for Israel to respond. Where would that position have left Europe in 1939? Some 3/4s of the Israeli population is now within striking range of the Hamas arsenal. Transposed on to Britain that's the equivalent of 47,000,000 of Britain's population.

Unless it has passed some's notice the IDF has, this week, uncovered a plot by Hamas to utilise her tunnel network to attemp to inflict 10,000 Jewish deaths. What are Israel to do in light of this? Nothing? Some think so.

Clearly these are very difficult days and I'm not knocking at one side and thinking the other is whiter than white. I am really saddened for the ordinary Arab population in Gaza who are saddled with the Hamas' leadership. I for one hope this terrible situation is resolved as soon as possible but it won't while one side has honoured 5 ceasefires and one continued their bombardment.

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IT WASNT THERES IN THE FIRST PLACE TO GIVE BACK .... THERE IS NO ISRAEL .... ITS PALESTINE!
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Postby Zabier » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:40 pm

How can a people that have been prejudiced against so badly in the past act in such a barbaric way to another set of people? It beggars belief. Yes, Palestine is a complex situation but this, right now, is not complex. Children are dying and they must stop dying.
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Postby AHERNE » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:42 pm

I COULDNT FIND ONE OF THE UK BUT CAN YOU IMAGINE THIS HAPPENING HERE .... HOW WOULD YOU REACT?
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Postby AHERNE » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:47 pm

Zabier wrote:How can a people that have been prejudiced against so badly in the past act in such a barbaric way to another set of people? It beggars belief. Yes, Palestine is a complex situation but this, right now, is not complex. Children are dying and they must stop dying.

thats what amazes me too .... how can they talk about the holocaust and what the nazis did to their children and then go out and kill kid


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWslbLYjzhg holocaust saviour speaks out
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Postby wez1927 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:30 pm

AHERNE wrote:
simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Israel have now massacred over 1,200 Palestinian Families, surely now UN/USA/THE WORLD has to put a stop to this :evil: :evil:

This is how it all started weeks ago
http://itspalestinenotisrael.wordpress. ... li-terror/ :evil:

Since then over 1,200 innocent Palestinian families are now dead,100's of homes blown up including schools and even part of a hospital, whilst 40 Israeli soldiers are killed and 4 innocent Israeli people.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mR1LGoNg5p4

Palestine belongs to the Palestinians and they should be allowed to rule themselves, plus Israel have continually stolen their land for over 60 years, no wonder the Palestinians try to stand up for themselves.
Most of Israel was originally Palestinian land.

Why is the World letting this happen?



right now............if you were head of Hamas.........would you KNOW DAMN WELL that sending a cell into Israel and killing Israely soldiers will result in many more of your friends,family,countrymen/women/children losing their lives.?
absolutely everyone knows the answer.......
but it continues...???????????

no wonder they try to stand up for themselves......is that what is happening?,
were these dead children standing up for themselves or are the loses calculated and the dead sacrificed by men that STAND behind civilians......

you can continue all you like sticking up for israel simon but its now falling of deaf ears .... you cant keep defending a nation that kills children .... for to do so your making yourself look like a heartless c**t and im sure thats not what you are! ... i`ll repeat THERES IS NO ARGUMENT FOR THE KILLING OF CHILDREN ..... NONE WHATSOEVER!

Watch it he will call you a racist next ,no one dare condemn the Jewish state
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Postby wez1927 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:34 pm

AHERNE wrote:
Zabier wrote:How can a people that have been prejudiced against so badly in the past act in such a barbaric way to another set of people? It beggars belief. Yes, Palestine is a complex situation but this, right now, is not complex. Children are dying and they must stop dying.

thats what amazes me too .... how can they talk about the holocaust and what the nazis did to their children and then go out and kill kid


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWslbLYjzhg holocaust saviour speaks out

let's face it t be holocaust was terrible but enough s enough time to stop pussy footing around and sort Isreal out properly spilt it in two and UN petrol t be borders
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Postby Svenman87 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:42 pm

BTW ppl saying the US won't get involved due to oil... XD really? I'm guessing that's a reference to the war in Iraq. You should take a look at what countries the US gets their oil from, because if you did you'd realize how daft that 'correlation' is.

Lots of fucked up people and awful situations where a groupc of people can be seen in the right; yet for the wrong reasons. I doubt we'll see much change of how people treat each other in our lifetimes.
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Postby Forever Blue » Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:43 am

"Israel has broken 65 U.N resolutions with no consequences. Iraq broke two and got invaded, bombed and destroyed."
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Postby Green Arrow » Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:09 am

Hamas wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for what Israel has done. Hamas formed in 1987 as a reaction to Israel's actions.

All those who are happy for Israel to continue taking more Palestinian land using the same logic are also happy that the English came and occupied Welsh land by force. In neither case was the land actually there's to begin with.
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Postby Forever Blue » Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:15 am

Green Arrow wrote:Hamas wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for what Israel has done. Hamas formed in 1987 as a reaction to Israel's actions.

All those who are happy for Israel to continue taking more Palestinian land using the same logic are also happy that the English came and occupied Welsh land by force. In neither case was the land actually there's to begin with.



Spot on.

All Hamas or any other other Palestinian are doing is fighting for their rights,their rightful land and Freedom that Israel has stolen from them and made them feel like prisoners.
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Postby Steve the Tea TM (c) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:55 am

Ah, Aherne the revisionist! Why let the truth of the situation get in the way of opinion. Have you ever been to Israel? I have almost 20 times and have seen the situation on the ground for myself. Actually, King David captured Jebus in 1000BC and since then Jerusalem has been the capital of the Jewish state viz Israel. It was only the expulsion of the Jews from the land in 1stC AD that it fell into a desert. Clearly you have forgotten the Holocaust where 6,000,000 Jews were gassed to death for no other reason than they were Jews. It was following this genoicde that the land was given back to Israel. The day following this momentous decision in 1948 all the Arab nations declared war on the day-old state but lost. Israel is here to stay and Jerusalem her capital.

The land laughingly called the West Bank or Occupied Territories actually is the heartland of the old Jewish state viz: Judea and Samaria. If you really are concerned about a truly occupied land be concerned for the Turkish occupied land in Cyprus. Revisionism is very shaky ground on which to build a thesis.

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Postby Forever Blue » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:03 am

Steve the Tea TM (c) wrote:Annis, it could have stopped before it started. This is not of Israel's making but Hamas. After, in 2005, giving the Arabs all of Gaza, uprooting and making homeless, thousands of Jews all the PLO/Hamas have done is to fire a nonstop barrage of rockets and missiles into S Israel. At anytime since then, had Hamas stopped the assault there would have been peace. Theses Arabs were given the land but it is not land they want but the eradication of Israel. I think you are saying that it's ok for the Arabs to unilaterally attack Israel but not for Israel to respond. Where would that position have left Europe in 1939? Some 3/4s of the Israeli population is now within striking range of the Hamas arsenal. Transposed on to Britain that's the equivalent of 47,000,000 of Britain's population.

Unless it has passed some's notice the IDF has, this week, uncovered a plot by Hamas to utilise her tunnel network to attemp to inflict 10,000 Jewish deaths. What are Israel to do in light of this? Nothing? Some think so.

Clearly these are very difficult days and I'm not knocking at one side and thinking the other is whiter than white. I am really saddened for the ordinary Arab population in Gaza who are saddled with the Hamas' leadership. I for one hope this terrible situation is resolved as soon as possible but it won't while one side has honoured 5 ceasefires and one continued their bombardment.

StT.


Steve, it's the Palestinian country, not Israels, they are occupying the Palestinian land, Hamas were voted in and because UK and USA don't accept them, they are labelled Terrorists.
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