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Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:00 am

Military Junta wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Why not ? Even arsenal offered to pay £1 more than the release clause regarding Suarez last season so technically had that been accepted then it's still paying more than the clause figure itself


Suarez's release clause was that he could talk to anyone who bud MORE than 40 million. Campbell's is 800k.

If a house was on the market for 150k would you pay 155k?


If you are in a race with another buyer then yes. In this case more than one club were interested on Campbell and it's still up to the club on who they prefer to do business with whether there's a release clause involved or not


how did you get anyone to vote for you?
houses do not have a say in who lives in them.
at least no house ive lived in has spoken to me ...
did your house insist on a release clause?......if.some hot bird wants to live here you have to sell it to her if she offers £x

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:06 am

simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Why not ? Even arsenal offered to pay £1 more than the release clause regarding Suarez last season so technically had that been accepted then it's still paying more than the clause figure itself


Suarez's release clause was that he could talk to anyone who bud MORE than 40 million. Campbell's is 800k.

If a house was on the market for 150k would you pay 155k?


If you are in a race with another buyer then yes. In this case more than one club were interested on Campbell and it's still up to the club on who they prefer to do business with whether there's a release clause involved or not


how did you get anyone to vote for you?
houses do not have a say in who lives in them.
at least no house ive lived in has spoken to me ...
did your house insist on a release clause?......if.some hot bird wants to live here you have to sell it to her if she offers £x


What are you talking about ? If it is more than one party interested in buying a house/player or whatever then surely that becomes a price war then it's up to the seller to want the best deal. Basic economics isn't it ? As quiet often a price war increases the value from the original listed price!! You only have to go to an auction for proof of that

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:10 am

Military Junta wrote:
simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Why not ? Even arsenal offered to pay £1 more than the release clause regarding Suarez last season so technically had that been accepted then it's still paying more than the clause figure itself


Suarez's release clause was that he could talk to anyone who bud MORE than 40 million. Campbell's is 800k.

If a house was on the market for 150k would you pay 155k?


If you are in a race with another buyer then yes. In this case more than one club were interested on Campbell and it's still up to the club on who they prefer to do business with whether there's a release clause involved or not


how did you get anyone to vote for you?
houses do not have a say in who lives in them.
at least no house ive lived in has spoken to me ...
did your house insist on a release clause?......if.some hot bird wants to live here you have to sell it to her if she offers £x


What are you talking about ? If it is more than one party interested in buying a house/player or whatever then surely that becomes a price war then it's up to the seller to want the best deal. Basic economics isn't it ? As quiet often a price war increases the value from the original listed price!! You only have to go to an auction for proof of that


the point of a release clause being put into a players contract by him or his agent is to maximise the players options, not for it to be an auction where if Tronso offer the most your guy has to freeze his nuts off for 3 years playing against polar bears......

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:11 am

People also need to realise that the club still have some hold on the player even if he has a release clause in their contract otherwise it would be chaos!!! For example a player has a release clause for a million, then a club comes in and puts a bid in for a million but very low instalments over many years. The contracted club are well within their rights to turn that down.

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:13 am

Military Junta wrote:
simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Why not ? Even arsenal offered to pay £1 more than the release clause regarding Suarez last season so technically had that been accepted then it's still paying more than the clause figure itself


Suarez's release clause was that he could talk to anyone who bud MORE than 40 million. Campbell's is 800k.

If a house was on the market for 150k would you pay 155k?


If you are in a race with another buyer then yes. In this case more than one club were interested on Campbell and it's still up to the club on who they prefer to do business with whether there's a release clause involved or not


how did you get anyone to vote for you?
houses do not have a say in who lives in them.
at least no house ive lived in has spoken to me ...
did your house insist on a release clause?......if.some hot bird wants to live here you have to sell it to her if she offers £x


What are you talking about ? If it is more than one party interested in buying a house/player or whatever then surely that becomes a price war then it's up to the seller to want the best deal. Basic economics isn't it ? As quiet often a price war increases the value from the original listed price!! You only have to go to an auction for proof of that



are you seriously this thick..or is this an attempt to wrestle your way back into this weeks ten most stupid posts?
if it is your short by a distance.........need to start reading UFO weekly..

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:21 am

simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Why not ? Even arsenal offered to pay £1 more than the release clause regarding Suarez last season so technically had that been accepted then it's still paying more than the clause figure itself


Suarez's release clause was that he could talk to anyone who bud MORE than 40 million. Campbell's is 800k.

If a house was on the market for 150k would you pay 155k?


If you are in a race with another buyer then yes. In this case more than one club were interested on Campbell and it's still up to the club on who they prefer to do business with whether there's a release clause involved or not


how did you get anyone to vote for you?
houses do not have a say in who lives in them.
at least no house ive lived in has spoken to me ...
did your house insist on a release clause?......if.some hot bird wants to live here you have to sell it to her if she offers £x


What are you talking about ? If it is more than one party interested in buying a house/player or whatever then surely that becomes a price war then it's up to the seller to want the best deal. Basic economics isn't it ? As quiet often a price war increases the value from the original listed price!! You only have to go to an auction for proof of that



are you seriously this thick..or is this an attempt to wrestle your way back into this weeks ten most stupid posts?
if it is your short by a distance.........need to start reading UFO weekly..


Listen I know the stereotypical Jewish comments when it comes to parting with money but prices wars in many industries do happen if you have more than one interested party at the same time

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:34 am

Military Junta wrote:
simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Why not ? Even arsenal offered to pay £1 more than the release clause regarding Suarez last season so technically had that been accepted then it's still paying more than the clause figure itself


Suarez's release clause was that he could talk to anyone who bud MORE than 40 million. Campbell's is 800k.

If a house was on the market for 150k would you pay 155k?


If you are in a race with another buyer then yes. In this case more than one club were interested on Campbell and it's still up to the club on who they prefer to do business with whether there's a release clause involved or not


how did you get anyone to vote for you?
houses do not have a say in who lives in them.
at least no house ive lived in has spoken to me ...
did your house insist on a release clause?......if.some hot bird wants to live here you have to sell it to her if she offers £x


What are you talking about ? If it is more than one party interested in buying a house/player or whatever then surely that becomes a price war then it's up to the seller to want the best deal. Basic economics isn't it ? As quiet often a price war increases the value from the original listed price!! You only have to go to an auction for proof of that



are you seriously this thick..or is this an attempt to wrestle your way back into this weeks ten most stupid posts?
if it is your short by a distance.........need to start reading UFO weekly..


Listen I know the stereotypical Jewish comments when it comes to parting with money but prices wars in many industries do happen if you have more than one interested party at the same time


not if the price of the product is determined by someone other than the seller.......eg.if a can of.pepsi is stamped RRP 59p ....mr Patel down the news agent tells you
its a quid............do you pay him a pound..........or tell him f**k ..

and what the f**k has this got to do with religeon,race,colour,language?
Last edited by simon.wiesenthal on Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:37 am, edited 1 time in total.

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:37 am

simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Why not ? Even arsenal offered to pay £1 more than the release clause regarding Suarez last season so technically had that been accepted then it's still paying more than the clause figure itself


Suarez's release clause was that he could talk to anyone who bud MORE than 40 million. Campbell's is 800k.

If a house was on the market for 150k would you pay 155k?


If you are in a race with another buyer then yes. In this case more than one club were interested on Campbell and it's still up to the club on who they prefer to do business with whether there's a release clause involved or not


how did you get anyone to vote for you?
houses do not have a say in who lives in them.
at least no house ive lived in has spoken to me ...
did your house insist on a release clause?......if.some hot bird wants to live here you have to sell it to her if she offers £x


What are you talking about ? If it is more than one party interested in buying a house/player or whatever then surely that becomes a price war then it's up to the seller to want the best deal. Basic economics isn't it ? As quiet often a price war increases the value from the original listed price!! You only have to go to an auction for proof of that



are you seriously this thick..or is this an attempt to wrestle your way back into this weeks ten most stupid posts?
if it is your short by a distance.........need to start reading UFO weekly..


Listen I know the stereotypical Jewish comments when it comes to parting with money but prices wars in many industries do happen if you have more than one interested party at the same time


not if the price of the product is determined by someone other than the seller.......eg..pepsi stamp RRP 59p on a can.......mr Patel down the news agent tells you
its a quid............do you pay him a pound..........or tell him f**k off


Well if Mr.Petal had two customers who wanted to buy that can of Pepsi and one would only pay the RRP 59p but the other offered £69 for it then Mr.Patel is well within his rights to sell to the highest bidder!!!

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:45 am

Military Junta wrote:
simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Why not ? Even arsenal offered to pay £1 more than the release clause regarding Suarez last season so technically had that been accepted then it's still paying more than the clause figure itself


Suarez's release clause was that he could talk to anyone who bud MORE than 40 million. Campbell's is 800k.

If a house was on the market for 150k would you pay 155k?


If you are in a race with another buyer then yes. In this case more than one club were interested on Campbell and it's still up to the club on who they prefer to do business with whether there's a release clause involved or not


how did you get anyone to vote for you?
houses do not have a say in who lives in them.
at least no house ive lived in has spoken to me ...
did your house insist on a release clause?......if.some hot bird wants to live here you have to sell it to her if she offers £x


What are you talking about ? If it is more than one party interested in buying a house/player or whatever then surely that becomes a price war then it's up to the seller to want the best deal. Basic economics isn't it ? As quiet often a price war increases the value from the original listed price!! You only have to go to an auction for proof of that



are you seriously this thick..or is this an attempt to wrestle your way back into this weeks ten most stupid posts?
if it is your short by a distance.........need to start reading UFO weekly..


Listen I know the stereotypical Jewish comments when it comes to parting with money but prices wars in many industries do happen if you have more than one interested party at the same time


not if the price of the product is determined by someone other than the seller.......eg..pepsi stamp RRP 59p on a can.......mr Patel down the news agent tells you
its a quid............do you pay him a pound..........or tell him f**k off


Well if Mr.Petal had two customers who wanted to buy that can of Pepsi and one would only pay the RRP 59p but the other offered £69 for it then Mr.Patel is well within his rights to sell to the highest bidder!!!


i give up

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:51 am

Yes please do because you are making a fool out of yourself

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:56 am

Military Junta wrote:Yes please do because you are making a fool out of yourself


oh thats what happened.............Campbells agent must be a fool too,fancy sticking a clause like that in when it doesnt really mean anything...............

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:57 am

simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Yes please do because you are making a fool out of yourself


oh thats what happened.............Campbells agent must be a fool too,fancy sticking a clause like that in when it doesnt really mean anything...............


Release clause was lower than the agreed fee for the Campbell deal because Leicester were the other party interested.

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:04 am

Once a club has met the release clause, they HAVE to accept the offer.

It is then down to the player to decide where he goes, the club have no leverage at all once the release clause has been triggered.

If a club then offers more than the release clause, well they are foolish as it doesn't give them any greater leverage with the selling club as the selling club has no say in where the player goes.

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:07 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:Once a club has met the release clause, they HAVE to accept the offer.

It is then down to the player to decide where he goes, the club have no leverage at all once the release clause has been triggered.

If a club then offers more than the release clause, well they are foolish as it doesn't give them any greater leverage with the selling club as the selling club has no say in where the player goes.


Rubbish and if that's the case then Palace would be well within their rights to say that we will pay you the £800,000 but won't pay you it for 100 years!!! Bollox can they do that and you know it

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:10 am

maccydee wrote:
Sat-Nav-Gav-Bionic wrote:Conway? Gestede?


Both got for nowt and sold for nowt. Same as cowie.



That's interesting. Blackburn think they paid £300k for Rudy.

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:26 am

It could be argued that the money we got from getting promotion and payments for relegation would easily show it was worth making a slight loss on some of malky's signings? no?

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:25 pm

jon1959 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Sat-Nav-Gav-Bionic wrote:Conway? Gestede?


Both got for nowt and sold for nowt. Same as cowie.



That's interesting. Blackburn think they paid £300k for Rudy.


They are lying. They took a player who was out of contract at the end of the season and got him for free and gave him a 3 year contract.

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:26 pm

bluebird_mike wrote:It could be argued that the money we got from getting promotion and payments for relegation would easily show it was worth making a slight loss on some of malky's signings? no?


Cornelius a slight loss. Oh dear.

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:32 pm

maccydee wrote:
jon1959 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Sat-Nav-Gav-Bionic wrote:Conway? Gestede?


Both got for nowt and sold for nowt. Same as cowie.



That's interesting. Blackburn think they paid £300k for Rudy.


They are lying. They took a player who was out of contract at the end of the season and got him for free and gave him a 3 year contract.



OK - you know better than the local Blackburn Rovers reporter on their local paper.

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sp ... _/?ref=mac

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:40 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Once a club has met the release clause, they HAVE to accept the offer.

It is then down to the player to decide where he goes, the club have no leverage at all once the release clause has been triggered.

If a club then offers more than the release clause, well they are foolish as it doesn't give them any greater leverage with the selling club as the selling club has no say in where the player goes.


Rubbish and if that's the case then Palace would be well within their rights to say that we will pay you the £800,000 but won't pay you it for 100 years!!! Bollox can they do that and you know it


it doesnt work like that..and im pretty sure your aware it doesnt........your just jealous of tonteg

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:45 pm

jon1959 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
jon1959 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Sat-Nav-Gav-Bionic wrote:Conway? Gestede?


Both got for nowt and sold for nowt. Same as cowie.



That's interesting. Blackburn think they paid £300k for Rudy.


They are lying. They took a player who was out of contract at the end of the season and got him for free and gave him a 3 year contract.



OK - you know better than the local Blackburn Rovers reporter on their local paper.

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sp ... _/?ref=mac


They had him on loan until the end of the season when they could get him for free. Why pay 300k?

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:47 pm

simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Once a club has met the release clause, they HAVE to accept the offer.

It is then down to the player to decide where he goes, the club have no leverage at all once the release clause has been triggered.

If a club then offers more than the release clause, well they are foolish as it doesn't give them any greater leverage with the selling club as the selling club has no say in where the player goes.


Rubbish and if that's the case then Palace would be well within their rights to say that we will pay you the £800,000 but won't pay you it for 100 years!!! Bollox can they do that and you know it


it doesnt work like that..and im pretty sure your aware it doesnt........your just jealous of tonteg


So how does it work then Simon ? Because there's been many different arrangements between clubs when paying for players. So I'd look forward to your insight of exactly how it works

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:49 pm

jon1959 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
jon1959 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Sat-Nav-Gav-Bionic wrote:Conway? Gestede?


Both got for nowt and sold for nowt. Same as cowie.



That's interesting. Blackburn think they paid £300k for Rudy.


They are lying. They took a player who was out of contract at the end of the season and got him for free and gave him a 3 year contract.



OK - you know better than the local Blackburn Rovers reporter on their local paper.

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sp ... _/?ref=mac


http://www.soccerbase.com/players/playe ... r_id=60631

http://www1.skysports.com/football/play ... dy-gestede

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:22 pm

Military Junta wrote:
simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Once a club has met the release clause, they HAVE to accept the offer.

It is then down to the player to decide where he goes, the club have no leverage at all once the release clause has been triggered.

If a club then offers more than the release clause, well they are foolish as it doesn't give them any greater leverage with the selling club as the selling club has no say in where the player goes.


Rubbish and if that's the case then Palace would be well within their rights to say that we will pay you the £800,000 but won't pay you it for 100 years!!! Bollox can they do that and you know it


it doesnt work like that..and im pretty sure your aware it doesnt........your just jealous of tonteg


So how does it work then Simon ? Because there's been many different arrangements between clubs when paying for players. So I'd look forward to your insight of exactly how it works


its been explained to you,nt just by me either......not that it should need explaining, certainly not to a football fan anyway.......so stop being a dick.........

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:44 pm

I'm not sticking up for Malky but you often have to pay over the odds for players to come to newly promoted premier teams.

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:54 pm

simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Once a club has met the release clause, they HAVE to accept the offer.

It is then down to the player to decide where he goes, the club have no leverage at all once the release clause has been triggered.

If a club then offers more than the release clause, well they are foolish as it doesn't give them any greater leverage with the selling club as the selling club has no say in where the player goes.


Rubbish and if that's the case then Palace would be well within their rights to say that we will pay you the £800,000 but won't pay you it for 100 years!!! Bollox can they do that and you know it


it doesnt work like that..and im pretty sure your aware it doesnt........your just jealous of tonteg


So how does it work then Simon ? Because there's been many different arrangements between clubs when paying for players. So I'd look forward to your insight of exactly how it works


its been explained to you,nt just by me either......not that it should need explaining, certainly not to a football fan anyway.......so stop being a dick.........


Onto person being a sick here is the one who pretends to have inside information regarding these kinda deals and each nada every example he's put our has been ripped to shreds!!!

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:32 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:This day and age Chuckles, it's both.


No it isn't.


How is it not? Hence why clubs like Swansea sign the likes of Bony, to improve the team and sell on for a bigger price.

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:18 am

maccydee wrote:
bluebird_mike wrote:It could be argued that the money we got from getting promotion and payments for relegation would easily show it was worth making a slight loss on some of malky's signings? no?


Cornelius a slight loss. Oh dear.


Yeah the cornelius signing was a very peculiar move and we lost money, but my point is earning the suggested/rumoured £90million for playing in the premier league for one year, and the parchute payments we'll receive this year not cancel out that loss? Not trying to defend Malkys signings, some of them were bad, but we've made more money in that one season in the prem (included the loss on signings) than we would've if we stayed in the champ

Re: No profit on any Malky signings yet.

Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:38 am

bluebird_mike wrote:
maccydee wrote:
bluebird_mike wrote:It could be argued that the money we got from getting promotion and payments for relegation would easily show it was worth making a slight loss on some of malky's signings? no?


Cornelius a slight loss. Oh dear.


Yeah the cornelius signing was a very peculiar move and we lost money, but my point is earning the suggested/rumoured £90million for playing in the premier league for one year, and the parchute payments we'll receive this year not cancel out that loss? Not trying to defend Malkys signings, some of them were bad, but we've made more money in that one season in the prem (included the loss on signings) than we would've if we stayed in the champ

In your honest opinion what contribution did Cornelius give to get us into the premier league ?