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Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:15 am

That's what was just said about the attack on the Palestinians by Israel

Sky just said the pictures are so horrific of the killings of children that they can't put on TV

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:20 am

I hate the Jews they were treated badly UN the 2 nd world war but what they are doing in Gaza is wrong ,they seem to be able to do what they like and get away with it

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:29 am

An absolute disgrace, they need to get off Palestinian land, but that wont happen as they are the US biggest allies.

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:34 am

Egypt keep coming up with peace initiatives, Hamas refuse to take them serious.......and refuse a ceasefire.......
the ultimate aim is to wipe Israel off the map..and the Jews.......
and the whole world knows this.....

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:35 am

wez1927 wrote:I hate the Jews they were treated badly UN the 2 nd world war but what they are doing in Gaza is wrong ,they seem to be able to do what they like and get away with it


Wez, they are being allowed to massacre families' without the world saying a word :evil:

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:38 am

Terrible, I know, but if Hamas stopped firing rockets into Israel, then Israel would no reason or excuse to attack Gazza :thumbup:

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:40 am

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:I hate the Jews they were treated badly UN the 2 nd world war but what they are doing in Gaza is wrong ,they seem to be able to do what they like and get away with it


Wez, they are being allowed to massacre families' without the world saying a word :evil:


its hamas wont stop...and hamas that hide behind civilians...

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:43 am

Life is cheap in any war zone - sadly .

This is horrific as hamas are using deaths for world wide support and hide behind children and family homes .

Israel`s alms compred to Hamas is ridiculous though and only one winner - hate seeing kids affected - wrong

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:48 am

[quote="NIBluebird"]Life is cheap in any war zone - sadly .

This is horrific as hamas are using deaths for world wide support and hide behind children and family homes .

Israel`s alms compred to Hamas is ridiculous though and only one winner - hate seeing kids affected - wrong[/quote

the Hamas misiles are going much deeper into Israel than previously......is it really ridiculous then to try to stop it by retaliation?
Hamas dont want to even listen to the Egyptian initiatives...Israel are prepared to...............
one side is actually milking the deaths of their own people here...........
reality..........if israels defences were not so good the in balance would be 10 fold the other way..

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:55 am

simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:I hate the Jews they were treated badly UN the 2 nd world war but what they are doing in Gaza is wrong ,they seem to be able to do what they like and get away with it


Wez, they are being allowed to massacre families' without the world saying a word :evil:


its hamas wont stop...and hamas that hide behind civilians...


To fight for their country and their freedom, Israel steal Palestinian land every week.

Hamas was voted in.

Israel should not be allowed to control another country. :evil:

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:03 am

Forever Blue wrote:
simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:I hate the Jews they were treated badly UN the 2 nd world war but what they are doing in Gaza is wrong ,they seem to be able to do what they like and get away with it


Wez, they are being allowed to massacre families' without the world saying a word :evil:


its hamas wont stop...and hamas that hide behind civilians...


To fight for their country and their freedom, Israel steal Palestinian land every week.

Hamas was voted in.

Israel should not be allowed to control another country. :evil:

Totally agree

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:41 am

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:I hate the Jews they were treated badly UN the 2 nd world war but what they are doing in Gaza is wrong ,they seem to be able to do what they like and get away with it


Wez, they are being allowed to massacre families' without the world saying a word :evil:


its hamas wont stop...and hamas that hide behind civilians...


To fight for their country and their freedom, Israel steal Palestinian land every week.

Hamas was voted in.

Israel should not be allowed to control another country. :evil:

Totally agree


and me..Hamas were voted in.............and you should be allowed to live in peace..and protect your people..

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:30 am

Isn't hamas a terror group?

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:31 am

Igovernor wrote:Isn't hamas a terror group?

So they say ,but they were voted in power so technically they are a political party

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:32 am

Igovernor wrote:Isn't hamas a terror group?

Voted in by the people of Palestine, who want their own state :thumbup:

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:38 am

Hamas fire rockets from school playing fields, war is very dirty but in NO WAY are the Palastinians blameless because they are not. You would be shocked how many in Northern Ireland didnt want peace simply because War and terror is very good for business. Also remember their Brothers running riot in Iraq and Syria ISIS are killing christians if they wont convert to Islam. A strong Israel is needed in the Middle East to keep the arabs in tow

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:40 am

danishblues wrote:Hamas fire rockets from school playing fields, war is very dirty but in NO WAY are the Palastinians blameless because they are not. You would be shocked how many in Northern Ireland didnt want peace simply because War and terror is very good for business. Also remember their Brothers running riot in Iraq and Syria ISIS are killing christians if they wont convert to Islam. A strong Israel is needed in the Middle East to keep the arabs in tow

I'm sure Hamas and Isis are not connected

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:43 am

Is that the Israeli Defence Force, on the attack.

How much land have the Palestinians stolen from Israel over the last 60-70 years?

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:45 am

porthcawlcasual wrote:Is that the Israeli Defence Force, on the attack.

How much land have the Palestinians stolen from Israel over the last 60-70 years?

None ,Israel is a new country born out of the 2nd world war

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:03 am

wez1927 wrote:
Igovernor wrote:Isn't hamas a terror group?

So they say ,but they were voted in power so technically they are a political party

A bit like Sinn Fein of the IRA then!

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:04 am

Why doesn't Hamas stop firing rockets ? Israel has the right to defend themselves .

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:09 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:Isn't hamas a terror group?

Voted in by the people of Palestine, who want their own state :thumbup:


voted in to bomb Israel and hide behind civilians...yes...........its democratic

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:30 am

Trouble this isn't a football debate so you can't apply a football mentality to it.To have peace and negotiation you need to have TWO sides wanting it.

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:49 am

what's your opinion on this ........ https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152299543033717

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:19 pm

7777 glt wrote:what's your opinion on this ........ https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152299543033717


That's biased propaganda. You can tell by the source. As if you're going to get a balanced argument from that source.

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:24 pm

Xcasual wrote:Why doesn't Hamas stop firing rockets ? Israel has the right to defend themselves .


Why don't Israel stop killing innocent civilians.

Its Hamas who they should be going after, yet the Israeli soldiers are now killing unarmed civilians, mainly children.

Why not just give the Palestinians their own state; they have been occupied since the late 1940's. Genocide has been committed by the Israelis for decades. Who else the people going to turn to, the world don't seem to give a shit, which gives Hamas popular backing.

Its not about Israel having the right to defend themselves, its the illegal jewish settlements in Gaza and west bank which are mainly being attacked. What are they doing there in the first place?

Hamas is a terrorist organisation, which in all honesty shouldn't exist, but if millions of Palestinians are being murdered, such organisations will exist for a long time. Just makes the world war holocaust insignificant to what is happening in Palestine.

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:25 pm

Green Arrow wrote:
7777 glt wrote:what's your opinion on this ........ https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152299543033717


That's biased propaganda. You can tell by the source. As if you're going to get a balanced argument from that source.


Yes Barnett your quite right,however,there doesn't seem to be a rush of people on here trying to answer the questions it poses.Saying something is biased and walking away doesn't cut it the real world-only on football forums.If you think or can prove he's talking shit then lets hear it,otherwise your no different to most on here who think they can win an argument by shouting loudest or personal abuse.

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:40 pm

We have own problems in this country,sort them out first.

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:57 pm

porthcawlcasual wrote:Is that the Israeli Defence Force, on the attack.

How much land have the Palestinians stolen from Israel over the last 60-70 years?



Mmm! I think you need to know a bit about the subject before posting!

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/med ... and_55.jpg

Look at this map and then you might see why the Palestinians are a teeny weeny but pissed off!

Re: Horrific and a massacre

Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:15 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:I hate the Jews they were treated badly UN the 2 nd world war but what they are doing in Gaza is wrong ,they seem to be able to do what they like and get away with it


Wez, they are being allowed to massacre families' without the world saying a word :evil:


its hamas wont stop...and hamas that hide behind civilians...


To fight for their country and their freedom, Israel steal Palestinian land every week.

Hamas was voted in.

Israel should not be allowed to control another country. :evil:


Annis I hate the Israeli government as much as you but Hamas are not fighting for land, they are terrorists who will also attack civilians hence launching 1000s of rockets into Israeli cities. I'm not condoning Israelis ground offensive as I think Israel will use Hamas as an excuse to finally annex both the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. But Hamas need to go, surgical air strikes won't work, shooting down missiles aren't working.

Israel could just hit missile factories and let Hamas waste all their rockets. But again, Netanyahu is a f*cking psychopath and is the Israeli George bush jnr. He will take Palestine in the next few years