Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:20 pm
BLUEBIRD57 wrote:Green Arrow wrote:7777 glt wrote:what's your opinion on this ........ https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152299543033717
That's biased propaganda. You can tell by the source. As if you're going to get a balanced argument from that source.
Yes Barnett your quite right,however,there doesn't seem to be a rush of people on here trying to answer the questions it poses.Saying something is biased and walking away doesn't cut it the real world-only on football forums.If you think or can prove he's talking shit then lets hear it,otherwise your no different to most on here who think they can win an argument by shouting loudest or personal abuse.
Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:57 pm
Forever Blue wrote:simon.wiesenthal wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:I hate the Jews they were treated badly UN the 2 nd world war but what they are doing in Gaza is wrong ,they seem to be able to do what they like and get away with it
Wez, they are being allowed to massacre families' without the world saying a word
its hamas wont stop...and hamas that hide behind civilians...
To fight for their country and their freedom, Israel steal Palestinian land every week.
Hamas was voted in.
Israel should not be allowed to control another country.
Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:02 pm
Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:28 pm
Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:13 am
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Forever Blue wrote:simon.wiesenthal wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:I hate the Jews they were treated badly UN the 2 nd world war but what they are doing in Gaza is wrong ,they seem to be able to do what they like and get away with it
Wez, they are being allowed to massacre families' without the world saying a word
its hamas wont stop...and hamas that hide behind civilians...
To fight for their country and their freedom, Israel steal Palestinian land every week.
Hamas was voted in.
Israel should not be allowed to control another country.
Israel don't just control another country. Israel control the world.
Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:52 pm
Hoochie Coochie Blues wrote:What is Horrific is tens of thousands of people marched in London yesterday....yet the BBC fails to recognise it.
After an outcry on twitter last night from people like George Galloway the bbc gave it 10 seconds on the main news.
Time to stop paying the Licence fee me thinks.
Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:54 pm
Hoochie Coochie Blues wrote:What is Horrific is tens of thousands of people marched in London yesterday....yet the BBC fails to recognise it.
After an outcry on twitter last night from people like George Galloway the bbc gave it 10 seconds on the main news.
Time to stop paying the Licence fee me thinks.
Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:26 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Hoochie Coochie Blues wrote:What is Horrific is tens of thousands of people marched in London yesterday....yet the BBC fails to recognise it.
After an outcry on twitter last night from people like George Galloway the bbc gave it 10 seconds on the main news.
Time to stop paying the Licence fee me thinks.
Typical of the Zionist controlled media.
Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:55 pm
Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:25 pm
Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:49 pm
simon.wiesenthal wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Hoochie Coochie Blues wrote:What is Horrific is tens of thousands of people marched in London yesterday....yet the BBC fails to recognise it.
After an outcry on twitter last night from people like George Galloway the bbc gave it 10 seconds on the main news.
Time to stop paying the Licence fee me thinks.
Typical of the Zionist controlled media.
i hope your using a proxy server so they cant track you down.....
they control the whole world..............
Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:52 am
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:simon.wiesenthal wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Hoochie Coochie Blues wrote:What is Horrific is tens of thousands of people marched in London yesterday....yet the BBC fails to recognise it.
After an outcry on twitter last night from people like George Galloway the bbc gave it 10 seconds on the main news.
Time to stop paying the Licence fee me thinks.
Typical of the Zionist controlled media.
i hope your using a proxy server so they cant track you down.....
they control the whole world..............
I think they're too busy plotting how to try and set Russia up next to worry about my comments on a football forum.
Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:36 am
Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:16 am
Forever Blue wrote:600 Palestinians now murdered , a child every hour, over 120 children ,plus 400 civilians.
18 Israelites killed all soldiers.
UN just said, Israel could be charged with war crimes.
Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:25 am
simon.wiesenthal wrote:Forever Blue wrote:600 Palestinians now murdered , a child every hour, over 120 children ,plus 400 civilians.
18 Israelites killed all soldiers.
UN just said, Israel could be charged with war crimes.
ONCE AGAIN THE PRINCIPLES OF DISTINCTION AND PRECAUTION ARE CLEARLY NOT BEING OBSERVED DURING SUCH INDISCRIMITNATE ATTACKS ON CIVILIAN AREAS BY HAMAS AND OTHER ARMED PALESTINIAN GROUPS...........she said..
airlines from the US.Europe, and Canada have stopped flights into Israel for fear of HAMAS misile attacks.. as Hamas misiles have landed near Tel Aviv airport..............no intention of stopping have they?
Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:06 am
Forever Blue wrote:600 Palestinians now murdered , a child every hour, over 120 children ,plus 400 civilians.
18 Israelites killed all soldiers.
UN just said, Israel could be charged with war crimes.
Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:07 am
jon1959 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:600 Palestinians now murdered , a child every hour, over 120 children ,plus 400 civilians.
18 Israelites killed all soldiers.
UN just said, Israel could be charged with war crimes.
Jaffa 1 posted this link on CCMB earlier today. Worth a read if you haven't seen it.
http://gowans.wordpress.com/2014/07/22/ ... estinians/
Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:39 am
in 1937, which included a Jewish state in part of Palestine, Ben-Gurion told the twentieth Zionist Congress, "The Jewish state now being offered to us is not the Zionist objective. [...] But it can serve as a decisive stage along the path to greater Zionist implementation. It will consolidate in Palestine, within the shortest possible time, the real Jewish force, which will lead us to our historic goal.[27] In a discussion in the Jewish Agency he said that he wanted a Jewish-Arab agreement "on the assumption that after we become a strong force, as a result of the creation of the state, we shall abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine."[28]
Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:46 am
Green Arrow wrote:Everyone is just scared of criticising the Jewish/Israeli people out of fear of being called anti Semitic. Political correctness at work in its fullest and the hypocrisy is disgusting.
If Muslims come to the UK and set up an Arab/Islam state in a London borough with sharia law and then over the years and decades spread and took other boroughs and grew sweeping up most of London the British people would be outraged and rightly so. If then when people from one borough fought back against this occupying of London the leaders of the Islamic state said move out of your borough or we will blow it to pieces and kill you and occupy it there'd be outrage.
This is exactly what has happened in Palestine for over a century now. Pro Israelis would like you to believe this conflict stems solely from the attacks by anti Israelis in 1948 after the planned UN partitioning in 1947 didn't go to plan. Well actually this started in the late 1800s when the first occupation of Palestinian land took place and the conflict had been going on during the Ottoman Empire days.
The Israeli state should have never existed and was set up purely as a place for fleeing Jews who faced persecution elsewhere in the world. In the 40s and 50s around the time of WW2 this fleeing of course, due to Nazi Germany, increased and thus the secular state of Israel grew even more populated. The mass growing of population has been going on since the original Zionist plans in the early 1900s and the Jewish people haven't even been quiet in talking about their aims.in 1937, which included a Jewish state in part of Palestine, Ben-Gurion told the twentieth Zionist Congress, "The Jewish state now being offered to us is not the Zionist objective. [...] But it can serve as a decisive stage along the path to greater Zionist implementation. It will consolidate in Palestine, within the shortest possible time, the real Jewish force, which will lead us to our historic goal.[27] In a discussion in the Jewish Agency he said that he wanted a Jewish-Arab agreement "on the assumption that after we become a strong force, as a result of the creation of the state, we shall abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine."[28]
This was in 1937 before the planned partition 10 years later. Their aims beforehand were to occupy Palestinian land and make it a Jewish secular state named the Land of Israel.
Now whilst I wholeheartedly disagree with what Nazi Germany did to the Jewish people I also wholeheartedly disagree with what the Israeli people are doing to the Palestinian people. Two wrongs don't make a right and the occupation of Palestinian land to set up a secular state at the expense of another group of people, many of whom have now become refugees in their original homeland, is quite honestly disgusting and criminal.
Yes Israel has had a right to defend itself from 1948 onwards from attacks but this has been going on long before then unlike what many pro Israelis wwould have you believe.
Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:55 am
wez1927 wrote:I hate the Jews they were treated badly UN the 2 nd world war but what they are doing in Gaza is wrong ,they seem to be able to do what they like and get away with it
Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:09 pm
BlaenavonBluebird wrote:wez1927 wrote:I hate the Jews they were treated badly UN the 2 nd world war but what they are doing in Gaza is wrong ,they seem to be able to do what they like and get away with it
"I hate the Jews" Thanks for the input Adolf!
Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:20 pm
Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:26 pm
Green Arrow wrote:BlaenavonBluebird wrote:wez1927 wrote:I hate the Jews they were treated badly UN the 2 nd world war but what they are doing in Gaza is wrong ,they seem to be able to do what they like and get away with it
"I hate the Jews" Thanks for the input Adolf!
Thanks for your input Stalin.
Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:28 pm
Forever Blue wrote:simon.wiesenthal wrote:Forever Blue wrote:600 Palestinians now murdered , a child every hour, over 120 children ,plus 400 civilians.
18 Israelites killed all soldiers.
UN just said, Israel could be charged with war crimes.
ONCE AGAIN THE PRINCIPLES OF DISTINCTION AND PRECAUTION ARE CLEARLY NOT BEING OBSERVED DURING SUCH INDISCRIMITNATE ATTACKS ON CIVILIAN AREAS BY HAMAS AND OTHER ARMED PALESTINIAN GROUPS...........she said..
airlines from the US.Europe, and Canada have stopped flights into Israel for fear of HAMAS misile attacks.. as Hamas misiles have landed near Tel Aviv airport..............no intention of stopping have they?
And it's Hamas/Palestinian land, their country and Israel are occupying it,so Hamas have a right to fight for their freedom.
600 families massacred How many Israeli families killed in last 10 days?
Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:51 pm
BlaenavonBluebird wrote:Green Arrow wrote:BlaenavonBluebird wrote:wez1927 wrote:I hate the Jews they were treated badly UN the 2 nd world war but what they are doing in Gaza is wrong ,they seem to be able to do what they like and get away with it
"I hate the Jews" Thanks for the input Adolf!
Thanks for your input Stalin.
Which part of my comment led you to make that statement?
Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:26 pm
Green Arrow wrote:BlaenavonBluebird wrote:Green Arrow wrote:BlaenavonBluebird wrote:wez1927 wrote:I hate the Jews they were treated badly UN the 2 nd world war but what they are doing in Gaza is wrong ,they seem to be able to do what they like and get away with it
"I hate the Jews" Thanks for the input Adolf!
Thanks for your input Stalin.
Which part of my comment led you to make that statement?
The part where you condemned him for having a difference of opinion. Very communist of you
Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:59 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Green Arrow wrote:Everyone is just scared of criticising the Jewish/Israeli people out of fear of being called anti Semitic. Political correctness at work in its fullest and the hypocrisy is disgusting.
If Muslims come to the UK and set up an Arab/Islam state in a London borough with sharia law and then over the years and decades spread and took other boroughs and grew sweeping up most of London the British people would be outraged and rightly so. If then when people from one borough fought back against this occupying of London the leaders of the Islamic state said move out of your borough or we will blow it to pieces and kill you and occupy it there'd be outrage.
This is exactly what has happened in Palestine for over a century now. Pro Israelis would like you to believe this conflict stems solely from the attacks by anti Israelis in 1948 after the planned UN partitioning in 1947 didn't go to plan. Well actually this started in the late 1800s when the first occupation of Palestinian land took place and the conflict had been going on during the Ottoman Empire days.
The Israeli state should have never existed and was set up purely as a place for fleeing Jews who faced persecution elsewhere in the world. In the 40s and 50s around the time of WW2 this fleeing of course, due to Nazi Germany, increased and thus the secular state of Israel grew even more populated. The mass growing of population has been going on since the original Zionist plans in the early 1900s and the Jewish people haven't even been quiet in talking about their aims.in 1937, which included a Jewish state in part of Palestine, Ben-Gurion told the twentieth Zionist Congress, "The Jewish state now being offered to us is not the Zionist objective. [...] But it can serve as a decisive stage along the path to greater Zionist implementation. It will consolidate in Palestine, within the shortest possible time, the real Jewish force, which will lead us to our historic goal.[27] In a discussion in the Jewish Agency he said that he wanted a Jewish-Arab agreement "on the assumption that after we become a strong force, as a result of the creation of the state, we shall abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine."[28]
This was in 1937 before the planned partition 10 years later. Their aims beforehand were to occupy Palestinian land and make it a Jewish secular state named the Land of Israel.
Now whilst I wholeheartedly disagree with what Nazi Germany did to the Jewish people I also wholeheartedly disagree with what the Israeli people are doing to the Palestinian people. Two wrongs don't make a right and the occupation of Palestinian land to set up a secular state at the expense of another group of people, many of whom have now become refugees in their original homeland, is quite honestly disgusting and criminal.
Yes Israel has had a right to defend itself from 1948 onwards from attacks but this has been going on long before then unlike what many pro Israelis wwould have you believe.
We should be allowed to say what we feel
Also I felt for the Jews regarding the Nazis,yet they are now murdering families for land which is not there's.
Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:14 pm
simon.wiesenthal wrote:Egypt keep coming up with peace initiatives, Hamas refuse to take them serious.......and refuse a ceasefire.......
the ultimate aim is to wipe Israel off the map..and the Jews.......
and the whole world knows this.....
Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:44 pm
simon.wiesenthal wrote:this isnt to gain land...its to stop being attacked
simon.wiesenthal wrote:Egypt keep coming up with peace initiatives, Hamas refuse to take them serious.......and refuse a ceasefire.......
the ultimate aim is to wipe Israel off the map..and the Jews.......
and the whole world knows this.....
Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:50 pm