Fao Natman & CJBluebird 17

As you constantly have asked others and myself for the following and even though I have told you 2 CEO'S have both told us fans on behalf of Tan, yet it still never made you happy, here

link
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=142889

I do think it's harsh to single out Natman on his own.

I do think it's harsh to single out Natman on his own.

Why? He constantly abuses the mods making a prat of himself. Not Annis' fault he's a complete and utter clown. He's lucky he hasn't been banned from what I've seen of his posts.

I do think it's harsh to single out Natman on his own.

Yep. And next you'll hear is that I'm stalking annis lol.

I do think it's harsh to single out Natman on his own.

Why? He constantly abuses the mods making a prat of himself. Not Annis' fault he's a complete and utter clown. He's lucky he hasn't been banned from what I've seen of his posts.

Ive never seen him abuse anyone

I do think it's harsh to single out Natman on his own.

Abuse is seen on this board as liking ccfc and not slaging the club off

Why? He constantly abuses the mods making a prat of himself. Not Annis' fault he's a complete and utter clown. He's lucky he hasn't been banned from what I've seen of his posts.

Ive never seen him abuse anyone

I do think it's harsh to single out Natman on his own.

Why? He constantly abuses the mods making a prat of himself. Not Annis' fault he's a complete and utter clown. He's lucky he hasn't been banned from what I've seen of his posts.

He's strange but has certainly not abused anyone on this forum.

I do think it's harsh to single out Natman on his own.

Why? He constantly abuses the mods making a prat of himself. Not Annis' fault he's a complete and utter clown. He's lucky he hasn't been banned from what I've seen of his posts.

As far as I have seen he is the only one who has been abused

I do think it's harsh to single out Natman on his own.

Why? He constantly abuses the mods making a prat of himself. Not Annis' fault he's a complete and utter clown. He's lucky he hasn't been banned from what I've seen of his posts.

Ive never seen him abuse anyone

your right he hasn't,the abuse has been one way traffic.He always puts his case honestly and fairly,their his opinions and should be respected.All opinions welcome and all that.

Natman for Mod

Natman for Mod

seconded

I do think it's harsh to single out Natman on his own.

Why? He constantly abuses the mods making a prat of himself. Not Annis' fault he's a complete and utter clown. He's lucky he hasn't been banned from what I've seen of his posts.

As far as I have seen he is the only one who has been abused

The link is also for your kind self as well, remember you also wanted more evidence

I meant to put yr name as well on the top, so Ive added it

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=142889

Can't say I've ever noticed him abusing anyone on here. He just doesn't fall into line by loving Malky and hating Tan.Apart from that he hasn't done much wrong.

Just listened to the interview. More confident than ever that we are in good hands! You can see glimpses of the master plan which we have seen come into action over the past season. Tan is serious on us and had long term plans and ambitions which can only be for our benefit!

Oh, and there's still no mention of a time frame of days. Tan owns the club the club owe tan the money. There's no interest being applied, tan isn't calling any of the loans in and there's no third party involvement ad there was with sam and citi bank. It's always described as the plan being too become debt free.

There is a long term plan and strategy in place here. People need to start working with tan to the benefit of Cardiff City rather than against him. Within that I mean dialogue needs to be pursued for a change back to blue rather than the abuse, aggression and vitriol that is currently employed.

I do think it's harsh to single out Natman on his own.

Why? He constantly abuses the mods making a prat of himself. Not Annis' fault he's a complete and utter clown. He's lucky he hasn't been banned from what I've seen of his posts.

As far as I have seen he is the only one who has been abused

The link is also for your kind self as well, remember you also wanted more evidence

I meant to put yr name as well on the top, so Ive added it

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=142889

Cheers. As I said it before it is extremely disappointing that he isn't going to convert everything and it's an issue the fans need to call him out on. What I will say though is plans change and I'm sure at the time of this interview we were not under pressure from the FFP rules which we are now, so Tan might have altered his plans to convert £50 million at a time so counter this.

CjBluebird17, a lot of those plans hinged on a long term stay in the epl if you listen carefully. As you say, this change. Hopefully Ole will get us back on track both with the football and subsequently financially

I do think it's harsh to single out Natman on his own.

Why? He constantly abuses the mods making a prat of himself. Not Annis' fault he's a complete and utter clown. He's lucky he hasn't been banned from what I've seen of his posts.

As far as I have seen he is the only one who has been abused

The link is also for your kind self as well, remember you also wanted more evidence

I meant to put yr name as well on the top, so Ive added it

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=142889

Cheers. As I said it before it is extremely disappointing that he isn't going to convert everything and it's an issue the fans need to call him out on. What I will say though is plans change and I'm sure at the time of this interview we were not under pressure from the FFP rules which we are now, so Tan might have altered his plans to convert £50 million at a time so counter this.

Cheers for holding your hands up

But Tan by now should of converted at least some of the debt in my opinion.

Natman for Mod

This

Which is what he is said he is going to do annis

Which is what he is said he is going to do annis

are you listening annis?

I told you all at the time what he was doing with regards to interest on his loans. He is very VERY clever at manipulating the fans and foresees things before they happen.

The interest he was charging was to create "non existent" money that he would then write off in exchange for more shares so he doesnt have to convert as much of his own loans to equity but instead use the money that never really existed.

When he announced he was converting the interest to equity people rejoiced on here. He just took shares for money that never even changed hands. Very clever, very manipulative and he has the majority eating out of the palm of his hands.

I also told you from the start he will never do a full debt to equity conversion as it made no sense what so ever. That has also proven true. My advice is use your brains rather than what he is telling you because a manipulator that has his audience in the palm of his hands use misdirection, and everyone falls for it time and time and time again.

I told you all at the time what he was doing with regards to interest on his loans. He is very VERY clever at manipulating the fans and foresees things before they happen.

The interest he was charging was to create "non existent" money that he would then write off in exchange for more shares so he doesnt have to convert as much of his own loans to equity but instead use the money that never really existed.

When he announced he was converting the interest to equity people rejoiced on here. He just took shares for money that never even changed hands. Very clever, very manipulative and he has the majority eating out of the palm of his hands.

I also told you from the start he will never do a full debt to equity conversion as it made no sense what so ever. That has also proven true. My advice is use your brains rather than what he is telling you because a manipulator that has his audience in the palm of his hands use misdirection, and everyone falls for it time and time and time again.

same old same old
vt can see the future

Get me the lottery numbers off vinny

I told you all at the time what he was doing with regards to interest on his loans. He is very VERY clever at manipulating the fans and foresees things before they happen.

The interest he was charging was to create "non existent" money that he would then write off in exchange for more shares so he doesnt have to convert as much of his own loans to equity but instead use the money that never really existed.

When he announced he was converting the interest to equity people rejoiced on here. He just took shares for money that never even changed hands. Very clever, very manipulative and he has the majority eating out of the palm of his hands.

I also told you from the start he will never do a full debt to equity conversion as it made no sense what so ever. That has also proven true. My advice is use your brains rather than what he is telling you because a manipulator that has his audience in the palm of his hands use misdirection, and everyone falls for it time and time and time again.

same old same old
vt can see the future

Its not about seeing the future as much as knowing what you are going to do months in advance. He knew that if he created false money (interest) that he could use that when the time is right in order to buy shares with it. He also knew that the act of "turning that debt to equity" would also reflect well on him, when in reality he essentially took shares for free.

He is about a hundred steps ahead of you guys. Thats not fortune telling, thats meticulous forward planning.

Roath could be right i just saw vt's column in the newspaper,the mystic malaysian
On second thoughts roath I don't think so,you shit stirer

I told you all at the time what he was doing with regards to interest on his loans. He is very VERY clever at manipulating the fans and foresees things before they happen.

The interest he was charging was to create "non existent" money that he would then write off in exchange for more shares so he doesnt have to convert as much of his own loans to equity but instead use the money that never really existed.

When he announced he was converting the interest to equity people rejoiced on here. He just took shares for money that never even changed hands. Very clever, very manipulative and he has the majority eating out of the palm of his hands.

I also told you from the start he will never do a full debt to equity conversion as it made no sense what so ever. That has also proven true. My advice is use your brains rather than what he is telling you because a manipulator that has his audience in the palm of his hands use misdirection, and everyone falls for it time and time and time again.

same old same old
vt can see the future

Its not about seeing the future as much as knowing what you are going to do months in advance. He knew that if he created false money (interest) that he could use that when the time is right in order to buy shares with it. He also knew that the act of "turning that debt to equity" would also reflect well on him, when in reality he essentially took shares for free.

He is about a hundred steps ahead of you guys. Thats not fortune telling, thats meticulous forward planning.

He's not doing anything that hasnt been done before at many a company.

Roath could be right i just saw vt's column in the newspaper,the mystic malaysian
On second thoughts roath I don't think so,you shit stirer

What is shit stirring about what ive said

Why do you have to be a mystic to plan what you are going to do? I am currently engaged, would you say i am a mystic if i planned to get married in 6 months time and carried it out? You either purposely don't understand or are incredibly stupid. I assume the former.

It makes perfect sense. He created non existent capitol and used it to further enhance his shareholding while portraying himself in a good light for "writing off debt".

Tell me which part of that you find hard to swallow?

I told you all at the time what he was doing with regards to interest on his loans. He is very VERY clever at manipulating the fans and foresees things before they happen.

The interest he was charging was to create "non existent" money that he would then write off in exchange for more shares so he doesnt have to convert as much of his own loans to equity but instead use the money that never really existed.

When he announced he was converting the interest to equity people rejoiced on here. He just took shares for money that never even changed hands. Very clever, very manipulative and he has the majority eating out of the palm of his hands.

I also told you from the start he will never do a full debt to equity conversion as it made no sense what so ever. That has also proven true. My advice is use your brains rather than what he is telling you because a manipulator that has his audience in the palm of his hands use misdirection, and everyone falls for it time and time and time again.

To be fair it doesn't take much to manipulate some of our fans, flash a cheque book and promise of some sort of success and they can't get their trousers round their ankles quick enough.

Yep, ive made the point many times. The club was primed for the taking, the fans and club in a perfect balance of financial trouble and a willingness to allow the keys to the club for some cash to push on regardless of the impact on the future of the club. Hes not stupid.

All he needs to do is drop a tiny hint and can get the majority of the fanbase to do or act any which way he pleases. Even got them begging for the rebrand after releasing the statement saying it wasnt going ahead. The hint from looking for investment elsewhere was enough, the carrot dangling and snatching away technique.

I told you all at the time what he was doing with regards to interest on his loans. He is very VERY clever at manipulating the fans and foresees things before they happen.

The interest he was charging was to create "non existent" money that he would then write off in exchange for more shares so he doesnt have to convert as much of his own loans to equity but instead use the money that never really existed.

When he announced he was converting the interest to equity people rejoiced on here. He just took shares for money that never even changed hands. Very clever, very manipulative and he has the majority eating out of the palm of his hands.

I also told you from the start he will never do a full debt to equity conversion as it made no sense what so ever. That has also proven true. My advice is use your brains rather than what he is telling you because a manipulator that has his audience in the palm of his hands use misdirection, and everyone falls for it time and time and time again.

so all the interest ive paid in my life is non existent money..............waw........so that must mean i earned non existent money to pay the non existent money that was interest............somebody owes me a hell of a lot of money...........

are there specialist companies like there are for to claim this non existent interest back like there are for PPI?
if not maybe you could start one up?