Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:36 pm
cendl blue wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:cendl blue wrote:Just when you think your club can't do anything more to embarrass theirselves they throw themselves wholeheartedly into a really pointless and futile attempt to stay up. The reason we lost was we were utter garbage plain and simple. The same as we were against a lot of teams this season. Yet again before a big game there is another distraction not that we need any. Do we use the same public relations guru and advisors that the north Korean premiere does because whoever it is what a plonk. Just let us play our games try to finish the season with a bit of guts and points and stay up that way. I would be gutted if we stayed up because of anything other than accumulating the points rightfully on the pitch. This leaves a real bitter taste in the mouth one only strong bow will alleviate
how are we going to gain points from this situation?
and if you feel something dodgy has happened whats wrong with reporting it?
seriously I dont see how anyone can criticise Cardiffs actions here they believe rules have been broken, they should report it.
Perhaps not gaining points but the talk of replaying the game and deducting points off palace is absurd. I think this type of thing goes on regular and it as to be us who make a big song and dance about it. If the boot was on the other foot and solksjaer got told the team and tactics do you think he would take the moral high ground I don't think so. Any team will take any advantage they can fair means or foul. Rather than blaming palace we should try to understand why any one at our club would want to do this especially how important the game was at the time. The club deserve every bit of criticism they get in my opinion they sound like a spoilt child and really desperate.
Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:37 pm
Simonella wrote:cendl blue wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:cendl blue wrote:Just when you think your club can't do anything more to embarrass theirselves they throw themselves wholeheartedly into a really pointless and futile attempt to stay up. The reason we lost was we were utter garbage plain and simple. The same as we were against a lot of teams this season. Yet again before a big game there is another distraction not that we need any. Do we use the same public relations guru and advisors that the north Korean premiere does because whoever it is what a plonk. Just let us play our games try to finish the season with a bit of guts and points and stay up that way. I would be gutted if we stayed up because of anything other than accumulating the points rightfully on the pitch. This leaves a real bitter taste in the mouth one only strong bow will alleviate
how are we going to gain points from this situation?
and if you feel something dodgy has happened whats wrong with reporting it?
seriously I dont see how anyone can criticise Cardiffs actions here they believe rules have been broken, they should report it.
Perhaps not gaining points but the talk of replaying the game and deducting points off palace is absurd. I think this type of thing goes on regular and it as to be us who make a big song and dance about it. If the boot was on the other foot and solksjaer got told the team and tactics do you think he would take the moral high ground I don't think so. Any team will take any advantage they can fair means or foul. Rather than blaming palace we should try to understand why any one at our club would want to do this especially how important the game was at the time. The club deserve every bit of criticism they get in my opinion they sound like a spoilt child and really desperate.
If the shoe was on the other foot? If you remember Moody being rejected our directors box and the noise that made, it should give you a clue actually jinks is spot on, and thats all this is about..
Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:04 pm
Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:43 pm
Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:45 pm
Jinks wrote:Its not about points its about finding the rats who have been leaking information from within our club to other people.
Surely moles giving out our clubs info should be found , sacked and exposed why some don't find it important amazes me
Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:52 pm
Mario wrote:Pointless. Palace have done nothing wrong. Just Tan being a little bitch as usual.
The man you hired got absolutely schooled on the day, accept it.
Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:56 pm
Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:06 pm
First_Touch wrote:Wonder about Gunnar's next move?
Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:25 pm
JONNY012697 wrote:I dont really understand your point.
I dont see a connection between our situation and Tevez/Sheffield United.
In the opinion of Cardiff City, Crystal Palace gained an advantage by knowing the Cardiff line-up before the team sheets were released and have reported this to the relevant authorities. Now its down to the Premier League to decide what if any punishment Crystal Palace should receive.
I dont see desperation, if you feel youve been wronged you report it. Now being the way football is you dont write your complaint on the back of a fag packet you have to do it properly with lawyers and well written reports.
As for the continued fuss being made I dont see Cardiff making huge fuss however as we are in the Premier League its big news and will be in the papers.
As for did Palace need the team-sheet is irrelevant, if theyve acquired it in the opinion of Cardiff they have broken rules and cheated. Basically what your saying is because they are a better team it doesnt matter what they do.
Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:51 pm
peoffrey - mcfc wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:I dont really understand your point.
I dont see a connection between our situation and Tevez/Sheffield United.
In the opinion of Cardiff City, Crystal Palace gained an advantage by knowing the Cardiff line-up before the team sheets were released and have reported this to the relevant authorities. Now its down to the Premier League to decide what if any punishment Crystal Palace should receive.
I dont see desperation, if you feel youve been wronged you report it. Now being the way football is you dont write your complaint on the back of a fag packet you have to do it properly with lawyers and well written reports.
As for the continued fuss being made I dont see Cardiff making huge fuss however as we are in the Premier League its big news and will be in the papers.
As for did Palace need the team-sheet is irrelevant, if theyve acquired it in the opinion of Cardiff they have broken rules and cheated. Basically what your saying is because they are a better team it doesnt matter what they do.
It's the blame culture. Sheffield United didn't survive that season because they didn't win enough matches yet it was West Ham's fault for fielding an illegible player.
There would be no fuss at all if Cardiff weren't making it. Palace are a community based club and Pulis is old school. They're not cheats. Numerous posters on here want to move on from the defeat and concentrate on the remaining matches. It'd be disappointing if a possible relegation leads to bad blood between Cardiff and Palace on the back of unfounded allegations.
This has got the bad PR of Vincent Tan written all over it. I feel embarrassed for the man.
Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:42 pm
peoffrey - mcfc wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:I dont really understand your point.
I dont see a connection between our situation and Tevez/Sheffield United.
In the opinion of Cardiff City, Crystal Palace gained an advantage by knowing the Cardiff line-up before the team sheets were released and have reported this to the relevant authorities. Now its down to the Premier League to decide what if any punishment Crystal Palace should receive.
I dont see desperation, if you feel youve been wronged you report it. Now being the way football is you dont write your complaint on the back of a fag packet you have to do it properly with lawyers and well written reports.
As for the continued fuss being made I dont see Cardiff making huge fuss however as we are in the Premier League its big news and will be in the papers.
As for did Palace need the team-sheet is irrelevant, if theyve acquired it in the opinion of Cardiff they have broken rules and cheated. Basically what your saying is because they are a better team it doesnt matter what they do.
It's the blame culture. Sheffield United didn't survive that season because they didn't win enough matches yet it was West Ham's fault for fielding an illegible player.
There would be no fuss at all if Cardiff weren't making it. Palace are a community based club and Pulis is old school. They're not cheats. Numerous posters on here want to move on from the defeat and concentrate on the remaining matches. It'd be disappointing if a possible relegation leads to bad blood between Cardiff and Palace on the back of unfounded allegations.
This has got the bad PR of Vincent Tan written all over it. I feel embarrassed for the man.
Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:53 pm
peoffrey - mcfc wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:I dont really understand your point.
I dont see a connection between our situation and Tevez/Sheffield United.
In the opinion of Cardiff City, Crystal Palace gained an advantage by knowing the Cardiff line-up before the team sheets were released and have reported this to the relevant authorities. Now its down to the Premier League to decide what if any punishment Crystal Palace should receive.
I dont see desperation, if you feel youve been wronged you report it. Now being the way football is you dont write your complaint on the back of a fag packet you have to do it properly with lawyers and well written reports.
As for the continued fuss being made I dont see Cardiff making huge fuss however as we are in the Premier League its big news and will be in the papers.
As for did Palace need the team-sheet is irrelevant, if theyve acquired it in the opinion of Cardiff they have broken rules and cheated. Basically what your saying is because they are a better team it doesnt matter what they do.
It's the blame culture. Sheffield United didn't survive that season because they didn't win enough matches yet it was West Ham's fault for fielding an illegible player.
There would be no fuss at all if Cardiff weren't making it. Palace are a community based club and Pulis is old school. They're not cheats. Numerous posters on here want to move on from the defeat and concentrate on the remaining matches. It'd be disappointing if a possible relegation leads to bad blood between Cardiff and Palace on the back of unfounded allegations.
This has got the bad PR of Vincent Tan written all over it. I feel embarrassed for the man.
Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:58 am
Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:29 am
Svenman87 wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:Svenman87 wrote:Even if this only increased Palace's chance of winning the game by a few percent. That's still a few percent - it shouldn't matter if it's .1% or 50%
Unfair advantage [CHEATING] shouldn't be tolerated.
How have palace cheated? Someone from your club told them didn't they?
If that is the case someone from your club should send a letter to the opposition the night before with the team sheet and if you lose, then cry foul.p
Nonsense. You were crushed by a team unchanged from its last game.
Also if they are found to have broken the rules by the FA that means what?
I'll give ya a hint - it would mean that the FA has deemed that they have cheated.
Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:14 am
First_Touch wrote:This is about discrediting Moody, it is as simple as that.
Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:21 am
Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:16 am
Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:35 am
First_Touch wrote:This is about discrediting Moody, it is as simple as that.
Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:04 am
Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:38 pm
jackf wrote:Happens all the time, has been happening for years nothing new yet carcrash city want to make it into something. No class no dignity no idea.
Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:32 pm
Bluebina wrote:jackf wrote:Happens all the time, has been happening for years nothing new yet carcrash city want to make it into something. No class no dignity no idea.
What a tool, if it happened to your club you can be sure your lot would do the same.....
Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:06 pm
Bluebina wrote:jackf wrote:Happens all the time, has been happening for years nothing new yet carcrash city want to make it into something. No class no dignity no idea.
What a tool, if it happened to your club you can be sure your lot would do the same.....
Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:36 pm
jackf wrote:Happens all the time, has been happening for years nothing new yet carcrash city want to make it into something. No class no dignity no idea.
Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:41 pm
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:jackf wrote:Happens all the time, has been happening for years nothing new yet carcrash city want to make it into something. No class no dignity no idea.
Seem to remember Sousa crying to Uefa about decisions a few years back not to mention numerous crying jacks "it's not fair cardiff gets everything" etc....
Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:44 pm
Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:48 pm
Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:35 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Gareth (Wilts) wrote:jackf wrote:Happens all the time, has been happening for years nothing new yet carcrash city want to make it into something. No class no dignity no idea.
Seem to remember Sousa crying to Uefa about decisions a few years back not to mention numerous crying jacks "it's not fair cardiff gets everything" etc....
I dont remember either.
Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:44 pm
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:Gareth (Wilts) wrote:jackf wrote:Happens all the time, has been happening for years nothing new yet carcrash city want to make it into something. No class no dignity no idea.
Seem to remember Sousa crying to Uefa about decisions a few years back not to mention numerous crying jacks "it's not fair cardiff gets everything" etc....
I dont remember either.
http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leice ... story.html
Read on roathie and I'm sure you may remember
But he was so incensed after Swansea's 2-0 defeat against West Brom in March that he even threatened to complain to both the FA and UEFA about his side's treatment at the hands of officials, citing a catalogue of examples.
Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:54 am
NJ73 wrote:Gareth (Wilts) wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:Gareth (Wilts) wrote:jackf wrote:Happens all the time, has been happening for years nothing new yet carcrash city want to make it into something. No class no dignity no idea.
Seem to remember Sousa crying to Uefa about decisions a few years back not to mention numerous crying jacks "it's not fair cardiff gets everything" etc....
I dont remember either.
http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leice ... story.html
Read on roathie and I'm sure you may rememberBut he was so incensed after Swansea's 2-0 defeat against West Brom in March that he even threatened to complain to both the FA and UEFA about his side's treatment at the hands of officials, citing a catalogue of examples.
So basically he just whinged and didn't actually go "crying to uefa" at all Gaz let alone send a five page complaint?
Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:23 am
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:Gareth (Wilts) wrote:jackf wrote:Happens all the time, has been happening for years nothing new yet carcrash city want to make it into something. No class no dignity no idea.
Seem to remember Sousa crying to Uefa about decisions a few years back not to mention numerous crying jacks "it's not fair cardiff gets everything" etc....
I dont remember either.
http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leice ... story.html
Read on roathie and I'm sure you may remember