' Cardiff City appealing Palace result '

Thursday 17th April 2014.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27062091

Cardiff's 3-0 defeat by Crystal Palace in early April should not be allowed to stand, the Welsh club have said in a five-page letter seen by the BBC.

The document, sent by club lawyers to the Premier League, alleges Palace boss Tony Pulis knew sporting director Iain Moody was trying to obtain Cardiff's starting line-up before the game.

Cardiff claim they have proof Moody succeeded and say this breaches league rules. Pulis declined to comment when contacted by the BBC, although Palace have previously denied the claims.

Premier League strugglers Cardiff go on to state that clubs should act in good faith to one another and call into serious question the integrity of the match.

They say Crystal Palace cheated and want the Premier League to take serious action.
Palace won 3-2 at Everton on Wednesday to climb to 11th in the table, on 40 points, a figure Pulis says is enough to ensure their Premier League survival.

Personally I actually agree with the club on this one. I think they have a duty to report this.

BBC Radio 5 Live were saying this morning that Cardiff have evidence of the leak and that Cardiff believe Pulis was in on it all the way. Allegedly a Palace staff member screwed up and accidentally texted the team to Dougie Freedman who was the one who let Cardiff know.

A part of me thinks that Cardiff are slightly implying that this is a usual trick of Tony Pulis.

Palace claim the team wasn't the same anyway but that was because Ole then had to ring the changes to his team and tactics as a result.

This could make the end of season even more interesting!

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27062091

Cardiff's 3-0 defeat by Crystal Palace in early April should not be allowed to stand, the Welsh club have said in a five-page letter seen by the BBC.
The document, sent by club lawyers to the Premier League, alleges Palace boss Tony Pulis knew sporting director Iain Moody was trying to obtain Cardiff's starting line-up before the game.
Cardiff claim they have proof Moody succeeded and say this breaches league rules. Pulis declined to comment when contacted by the BBC, although Palace have previously denied the claims.
Premier League strugglers Cardiff go on to state that clubs should act in good faith to one another and call into serious question the integrity of the match.
They say Crystal Palace cheated and want the Premier League to take serious action.
Palace won 3-2 at Everton on Wednesday to climb to 11th in the table, on 40 points, a figure Pulis says is enough to ensure their Premier League survival.

The club are taking the mick with this. We lost fair and square.

I'd rather the club be more vocal in its criticism of referees and send the fa a DVD of all the cock ups made by so called top officials .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27062091

Cardiff's 3-0 defeat by Crystal Palace in early April should not be allowed to stand, the Welsh club have said in a five-page letter seen by the BBC.
The document, sent by club lawyers to the Premier League, alleges Palace boss Tony Pulis knew sporting director Iain Moody was trying to obtain Cardiff's starting line-up before the game.
Cardiff claim they have proof Moody succeeded and say this breaches league rules. Pulis declined to comment when contacted by the BBC, although Palace have previously denied the claims.
Premier League strugglers Cardiff go on to state that clubs should act in good faith to one another and call into serious question the integrity of the match.
They say Crystal Palace cheated and want the Premier League to take serious action.
Palace won 3-2 at Everton on Wednesday to climb to 11th in the table, on 40 points, a figure Pulis says is enough to ensure their Premier League survival.

The club are taking the mick with this. We lost fair and square.

I'd rather the club be more vocal in its criticism of referees and send the fa a DVD of all the cock ups made by so called top officials .

Everyone was saying that Ole's team and tactics were weird. He got so much crap with comments like 'he picks the team out of a hat at 2pm'. Surely this leak ruined our match preparation and put us at an unfair disadvantage.

Complaining about referees is more sour grapes as everyone knows decisions balance themselves out, i.e. Zaha didn't get penalty at Goodison Park and Baines didn't get one at CCS.

Personally I actually agree with the club on this one. I think they have a duty to report this.

BBC Radio 5 Live were saying this morning that Cardiff have evidence of the leak and that Cardiff believe Pulis was in on it all the way. Allegedly a Palace staff member screwed up and accidentally texted the team to Dougie Freedman who was the one who let Cardiff know.

A part of me thinks that Cardiff are slightly implying that this is a usual trick of Tony Pulis.

Palace claim the team wasn't the same anyway but that was because Ole then had to ring the changes to his team and tactics as a result.

This could make the end of season even more interesting!

Get real ffs you're starting to sound like that jb from Australia now

Personally I actually agree with the club on this one. I think they have a duty to report this.

BBC Radio 5 Live were saying this morning that Cardiff have evidence of the leak and that Cardiff believe Pulis was in on it all the way. Allegedly a Palace staff member screwed up and accidentally texted the team to Dougie Freedman who was the one who let Cardiff know.

A part of me thinks that Cardiff are slightly implying that this is a usual trick of Tony Pulis.

Palace claim the team wasn't the same anyway but that was because Ole then had to ring the changes to his team and tactics as a result.

This could make the end of season even more interesting!

Get real ffs you're starting to sound like that jb from Australia now

Tell me something I said that is so stupid?

Is it illegal then?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27062091

Cardiff's 3-0 defeat by Crystal Palace in early April should not be allowed to stand, the Welsh club have said in a five-page letter seen by the BBC.
The document, sent by club lawyers to the Premier League, alleges Palace boss Tony Pulis knew sporting director Iain Moody was trying to obtain Cardiff's starting line-up before the game.
Cardiff claim they have proof Moody succeeded and say this breaches league rules. Pulis declined to comment when contacted by the BBC, although Palace have previously denied the claims.
Premier League strugglers Cardiff go on to state that clubs should act in good faith to one another and call into serious question the integrity of the match.
They say Crystal Palace cheated and want the Premier League to take serious action.
Palace won 3-2 at Everton on Wednesday to climb to 11th in the table, on 40 points, a figure Pulis says is enough to ensure their Premier League survival.

The club are taking the mick with this. We lost fair and square.

I'd rather the club be more vocal in its criticism of referees and send the fa a DVD of all the cock ups made by so called top officials .

Everyone was saying that Ole's team and tactics were weird. He got so much crap with comments like 'he picks the team out of a hat at 2pm'. Surely this leak ruined our match preparation and put us at an unfair disadvantage.

Complaining about referees is more sour grapes as everyone knows decisions balance themselves out, i.e. Zaha didn't get penalty at Goodison Park and Baines didn't get one at CCS.

Its bullshit about decisions balancing themselves out. Look at our games v Liverpool as a prime example. The only game where we had any help from officials was Everton at home as bellers could have seen red and Everton probably should have had a pen.

Look at games v spurs-Loris should have been sent off after 6 minutes.
V Liverpool-denied 2 pens at Anfield. At ccs scousers dived and cheated.
Hull away-blatant pen.
Stoke away-Adam should have been sent off for 2 yellows but crouch was booked
The list could go on.

Is it illegal then?

Is what illegal? Leaking info?

I do think the club are right to report it to be honest. If palace have attempting to gain an unfair adavantage by getting our tactics and team then the club are well withing their rights to report it. But to demand the league take action is bit to far.

Just hand in the report with your findings and leave it upto the PL and FA to decide a punishment (if any)

MJW,

Don't worry mate. The problem on here is that too many peple are blinded by the blue/red argument to see the facts of the matter in this case. The problem you'll face convincing anyone, no matter how much evidence there is, is that;

- People have been backing Malky all along (because its an Anti-tan move) and so this would not only bring into question Moody but Malky.

- People want to maintain the illusion that Moody was sacked as part of Tan's interfering (by probably the same supporters that complain Tan is never there). And so anything like this that gives credence to Moody's misdemeanors is dismissed out of hand.

- OGS is being implicated in the Malky in and Tan out argument. So despite (as you rightly point out) that people pointed out both on the radio and on here the odd selection by OGS on that day no-one will attribute it to this. People have massively contradicted themselves to try and cover this up as they've said both that OGS tinkers but that you could have spotted his team selection that day a mile off.

- notice how this hasn't been made a sticky (at the time of posting this), remember the agenda.

- so many prominent posters on this board have defended Malky and Moody to the hilt simply as a mechanism for getting at Tan, so if this proves to be true then a lot of posters will be left with egg on their face and the arguments in tatters.

- Remember the link between Browny, Carl and Media Wales. Browny was full guns blazing attacking this story to begin with. All adds up doesn't it!

Is it illegal then?

If it wasn't surely the FA would dismiss Cardiff's complaint out of hand?

MJW,

Don't worry mate. The problem on here is that too many peple are blinded by the blue/red argument to see the facts of the matter in this case. The problem you'll face convincing anyone, no matter how much evidence there is, is that;

- People have been backing Malky all along (because its an Anti-tan move) and so this would not only bring into question Moody but Malky.

- People want to maintain the illusion that Moody was sacked as part of Tan's interfering (by probably the same supporters that complain Tan is never there). And so anything like this that gives credence to Moody's misdemeanors is dismissed out of hand.

- OGS is being implicated in the Malky in and Tan out argument. So despite (as you rightly point out) that people pointed out both on the radio and on here the odd selection by OGS on that day no-one will attribute it to this. People have massively contradicted themselves to try and cover this up as they've said both that OGS tinkers but that you could have spotted his team selection that day a mile off.

- notice how this hasn't been made a sticky (at the time of posting this), remember the agenda.

- so many prominent posters on this board have defended Malky and Moody to the hilt simply as a mechanism for getting at Tan, so if this proves to be true then a lot of posters will be left with egg on their face and the arguments in tatters.

- Remember the link between Browny, Carl and Media Wales. Browny was full guns blazing attacking this story to begin with. All adds up doesn't it!

You really are paranoid aren't you?!

The club have done the right thing in reporting it, but to appeal the result? If true, I disagree with that. Judging by recent results, palace would have thrashed us whether they knew our team or not.

Is it illegal then?

Is what illegal? Leaking info?

Deliberately attempting to gain an unfair advantage?

Here is an example of this case in another sport

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 994416.stm

In this case a Ferrari employee leaked the data but McLaren were the ones punished heavily.

MJW,

Don't worry mate. The problem on here is that too many peple are blinded by the blue/red argument to see the facts of the matter in this case. The problem you'll face convincing anyone, no matter how much evidence there is, is that;

- People have been backing Malky all along (because its an Anti-tan move) and so this would not only bring into question Moody but Malky.

- People want to maintain the illusion that Moody was sacked as part of Tan's interfering (by probably the same supporters that complain Tan is never there). And so anything like this that gives credence to Moody's misdemeanors is dismissed out of hand.

- OGS is being implicated in the Malky in and Tan out argument. So despite (as you rightly point out) that people pointed out both on the radio and on here the odd selection by OGS on that day no-one will attribute it to this. People have massively contradicted themselves to try and cover this up as they've said both that OGS tinkers but that you could have spotted his team selection that day a mile off.

- notice how this hasn't been made a sticky (at the time of posting this), remember the agenda.

- so many prominent posters on this board have defended Malky and Moody to the hilt simply as a mechanism for getting at Tan, so if this proves to be true then a lot of posters will be left with egg on their face and the arguments in tatters.

- Remember the link between Browny, Carl and Media Wales. Browny was full guns blazing attacking this story to begin with. All adds up doesn't it!

You really are paranoid aren't you?!

The club have done the right thing in reporting it, but to appeal the result? If true, I disagree with that. Judging by recent results, palace would have thrashed us whether they knew our team or not.

My question is, do Palace always do this? Did they obtain the Everton team? The Villa team on Saturday?

Maybe Pulis isn't quite the genius we all thought??

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27062091

Cardiff's 3-0 defeat by Crystal Palace in early April should not be allowed to stand, the Welsh club have said in a five-page letter seen by the BBC.
The document, sent by club lawyers to the Premier League, alleges Palace boss Tony Pulis knew sporting director Iain Moody was trying to obtain Cardiff's starting line-up before the game.
Cardiff claim they have proof Moody succeeded and say this breaches league rules. Pulis declined to comment when contacted by the BBC, although Palace have previously denied the claims.
Premier League strugglers Cardiff go on to state that clubs should act in good faith to one another and call into serious question the integrity of the match.
They say Crystal Palace cheated and want the Premier League to take serious action.
Palace won 3-2 at Everton on Wednesday to climb to 11th in the table, on 40 points, a figure Pulis says is enough to ensure their Premier League survival.

The club are taking the mick with this. We lost fair and square.

I'd rather the club be more vocal in its criticism of referees and send the fa a DVD of all the cock ups made by so called top officials .

Everyone was saying that Ole's team and tactics were weird. He got so much crap with comments like 'he picks the team out of a hat at 2pm'. Surely this leak ruined our match preparation and put us at an unfair disadvantage.

Complaining about referees is more sour grapes as everyone knows decisions balance themselves out, i.e. Zaha didn't get penalty at Goodison Park and Baines didn't get one at CCS.

Its bullshit about decisions balancing themselves out. Look at our games v Liverpool as a prime example. The only game where we had any help from officials was Everton at home as bellers could have seen red and Everton probably should have had a pen.

Look at games v spurs-Loris should have been sent off after 6 minutes.
V Liverpool-denied 2 pens at Anfield. At ccs scousers dived and cheated.
Hull away-blatant pen.
Stoke away-Adam should have been sent off for 2 yellows but crouch was booked
The list could go on.

It's easy to only see it from our point of view. We remember when we were wronged but not necessarily when others were wronged during games against us.

MJW,

Don't worry mate. The problem on here is that too many peple are blinded by the blue/red argument to see the facts of the matter in this case. The problem you'll face convincing anyone, no matter how much evidence there is, is that;

- People have been backing Malky all along (because its an Anti-tan move) and so this would not only bring into question Moody but Malky.

- People want to maintain the illusion that Moody was sacked as part of Tan's interfering (by probably the same supporters that complain Tan is never there). And so anything like this that gives credence to Moody's misdemeanors is dismissed out of hand.

- OGS is being implicated in the Malky in and Tan out argument. So despite (as you rightly point out) that people pointed out both on the radio and on here the odd selection by OGS on that day no-one will attribute it to this. People have massively contradicted themselves to try and cover this up as they've said both that OGS tinkers but that you could have spotted his team selection that day a mile off.

- notice how this hasn't been made a sticky (at the time of posting this), remember the agenda.

- so many prominent posters on this board have defended Malky and Moody to the hilt simply as a mechanism for getting at Tan, so if this proves to be true then a lot of posters will be left with egg on their face and the arguments in tatters.

- Remember the link between Browny, Carl and Media Wales. Browny was full guns blazing attacking this story to begin with. All adds up doesn't it!

To be fair you have reasoned very well there!

MJW,

Don't worry mate. The problem on here is that too many peple are blinded by the blue/red argument to see the facts of the matter in this case. The problem you'll face convincing anyone, no matter how much evidence there is, is that;

- People have been backing Malky all along (because its an Anti-tan move) and so this would not only bring into question Moody but Malky.

- People want to maintain the illusion that Moody was sacked as part of Tan's interfering (by probably the same supporters that complain Tan is never there). And so anything like this that gives credence to Moody's misdemeanors is dismissed out of hand.

- OGS is being implicated in the Malky in and Tan out argument. So despite (as you rightly point out) that people pointed out both on the radio and on here the odd selection by OGS on that day no-one will attribute it to this. People have massively contradicted themselves to try and cover this up as they've said both that OGS tinkers but that you could have spotted his team selection that day a mile off.

- notice how this hasn't been made a sticky (at the time of posting this), remember the agenda.

- so many prominent posters on this board have defended Malky and Moody to the hilt simply as a mechanism for getting at Tan, so if this proves to be true then a lot of posters will be left with egg on their face and the arguments in tatters.

- Remember the link between Browny, Carl and Media Wales. Browny was full guns blazing attacking this story to begin with. All adds up doesn't it!

You have a bizarre agenda Natman.

We got turned over by Palace. Tactically ole was inept and was outwitted by Pulis. He should have gone with his original team if it is the case that the team was leaked.

There is not one poster on here defending moody. Quite a few are pro-Malky. Don't you remember that Malky was the man who got us promoted very easily. Yes he made mistakes in transfer market but it was tan and lim who sanctioned the moves. Personally I think we'd be marginally better off under Malky but we would still be in a relegation battle.

This isn't about blue or red it is about common sense and as far as I'm concerned we lost get over it and move on.

MJW,

Don't worry mate. The problem on here is that too many peple are blinded by the blue/red argument to see the facts of the matter in this case. The problem you'll face convincing anyone, no matter how much evidence there is, is that;

- People have been backing Malky all along (because its an Anti-tan move) and so this would not only bring into question Moody but Malky.

- People want to maintain the illusion that Moody was sacked as part of Tan's interfering (by probably the same supporters that complain Tan is never there). And so anything like this that gives credence to Moody's misdemeanors is dismissed out of hand.

- OGS is being implicated in the Malky in and Tan out argument. So despite (as you rightly point out) that people pointed out both on the radio and on here the odd selection by OGS on that day no-one will attribute it to this. People have massively contradicted themselves to try and cover this up as they've said both that OGS tinkers but that you could have spotted his team selection that day a mile off.

- notice how this hasn't been made a sticky (at the time of posting this), remember the agenda.

- so many prominent posters on this board have defended Malky and Moody to the hilt simply as a mechanism for getting at Tan, so if this proves to be true then a lot of posters will be left with egg on their face and the arguments in tatters.

- Remember the link between Browny, Carl and Media Wales. Browny was full guns blazing attacking this story to begin with. All adds up doesn't it!

You really are paranoid aren't you?!

The club have done the right thing in reporting it, but to appeal the result? If true, I disagree with that. Judging by recent results, palace would have thrashed us whether they knew our team or not.

Not at all mate. The dots are easy enough to join when you look!

Agree, the club have done the right thing. Not sure if someone engaging in the competition can denote the terms of punishment to another club. If palace are deducted 3 points I think it would still make them safe. It would have an effect on our goal difference and pull us in closer to Norwich.

Its hard to argue on the basis of other results. Look at Sunderland at man City! Freak results happen, that result might have given the team confidence to go on this run and taken the pressure off. Its impossible to tell and you almost have to make the decision to punish in isolation to all of that.

MJW,

Don't worry mate. The problem on here is that too many peple are blinded by the blue/red argument to see the facts of the matter in this case. The problem you'll face convincing anyone, no matter how much evidence there is, is that;

- People have been backing Malky all along (because its an Anti-tan move) and so this would not only bring into question Moody but Malky.

- People want to maintain the illusion that Moody was sacked as part of Tan's interfering (by probably the same supporters that complain Tan is never there). And so anything like this that gives credence to Moody's misdemeanors is dismissed out of hand.

- OGS is being implicated in the Malky in and Tan out argument. So despite (as you rightly point out) that people pointed out both on the radio and on here the odd selection by OGS on that day no-one will attribute it to this. People have massively contradicted themselves to try and cover this up as they've said both that OGS tinkers but that you could have spotted his team selection that day a mile off.

- notice how this hasn't been made a sticky (at the time of posting this), remember the agenda.

- so many prominent posters on this board have defended Malky and Moody to the hilt simply as a mechanism for getting at Tan, so if this proves to be true then a lot of posters will be left with egg on their face and the arguments in tatters.

- Remember the link between Browny, Carl and Media Wales. Browny was full guns blazing attacking this story to begin with. All adds up doesn't it!

You have a bizarre agenda Natman.

We got turned over by Palace. Tactically ole was inept and was outwitted by Pulis. He should have gone with his original team if it is the case that the team was leaked.

There is not one poster on here defending moody. Quite a few are pro-Malky. Don't you remember that Malky was the man who got us promoted very easily. Yes he made mistakes in transfer market but it was tan and lim who sanctioned the moves. Personally I think we'd be marginally better off under Malky but we would still be in a relegation battle.

This isn't about blue or red it is about common sense and as far as I'm concerned we lost get over it and move on.

You are proving Nat's point!? How can you call Ole tactically inept and outwitted by Pulis when Pulis knew the team and conceivably the tactics as well!?

I don't disagree about Malky but there is indeed a lack of grace towards Ole on here.

Not at all mate. The dots are easy enough to join when you look!

you really are. You're joining dots that aren't even there! you bang on about agenda, but yours is by far the biggest!

Agree, the club have done the right thing. Not sure if someone engaging in the competition can denote the terms of punishment to another club. If palace are deducted 3 points I think it would still make them safe. It would have an effect on our goal difference and pull us in closer to Norwich.

it isn't going to happen. Get real.

Its hard to argue on the basis of other results. Look at Sunderland at man City! Freak results happen, that result might have given the team confidence to go on this run and taken the pressure off. Its impossible to tell and you almost have to make the decision to punish in isolation to all of that.

no it isn't. If you are seriously suggesting we lost that game because of an alleged leak, your head is buried further in the sand than I thought it was.

PS - maybe the fact that is isn't a sticky is because there are no MODs online?! doesn't suit your agenda that though, does it?

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but there is indeed a lack of grace towards Ole on here.

& there isn't about Mackay?! Dear me, there's slanderous topics and posts made about Malky on here almost daily!

MJW,

Don't worry mate. The problem on here is that too many peple are blinded by the blue/red argument to see the facts of the matter in this case. The problem you'll face convincing anyone, no matter how much evidence there is, is that;

- People have been backing Malky all along (because its an Anti-tan move) and so this would not only bring into question Moody but Malky.

- People want to maintain the illusion that Moody was sacked as part of Tan's interfering (by probably the same supporters that complain Tan is never there). And so anything like this that gives credence to Moody's misdemeanors is dismissed out of hand.

- OGS is being implicated in the Malky in and Tan out argument. So despite (as you rightly point out) that people pointed out both on the radio and on here the odd selection by OGS on that day no-one will attribute it to this. People have massively contradicted themselves to try and cover this up as they've said both that OGS tinkers but that you could have spotted his team selection that day a mile off.

- notice how this hasn't been made a sticky (at the time of posting this), remember the agenda.

- so many prominent posters on this board have defended Malky and Moody to the hilt simply as a mechanism for getting at Tan, so if this proves to be true then a lot of posters will be left with egg on their face and the arguments in tatters.

- Remember the link between Browny, Carl and Media Wales. Browny was full guns blazing attacking this story to begin with. All adds up doesn't it!

You have a bizarre agenda Natman.

We got turned over by Palace. Tactically ole was inept and was outwitted by Pulis. He should have gone with his original team if it is the case that the team was leaked.

There is not one poster on here defending moody. Quite a few are pro-Malky. Don't you remember that Malky was the man who got us promoted very easily. Yes he made mistakes in transfer market but it was tan and lim who sanctioned the moves. Personally I think we'd be marginally better off under Malky but we would still be in a relegation battle.

This isn't about blue or red it is about common sense and as far as I'm concerned we lost get over it and move on.

Gareth, this is far deeper than you realise mate!

Tell me, if this doesn't happen regularly how would any manager a any level plan to re-act to it if it is outside of the rules of the competition. He changed his tactics so is criticised for not sticking to his guns, if he stuck to his guns and lost he would be criticised for not adapting. He was on to a no-win situation here. He probably thought to outwit and change and give them something unexpected, after all they knew what the original plan was and maybe he could have duped them. Who knows????

There's been plenty defending Moody at the time of his sacking and since, this is all tied together!

Tan and Lim would have sanctioned the moves based on the evidence of their 'experts'; Malky and Moody. Same as happens in a lot of businesses. You leave it to the specialist to provide you with the business a case. You examine it whilst taking on board their 'expert opinion' and you sanction the move. Blame is with Malky and Moody!

Even if this only increased Palace's chance of winning the game by a few percent. That's still a few percent - it shouldn't matter if it's .1% or 50%

Unfair advantage [CHEATING] shouldn't be tolerated.

Not at all mate. The dots are easy enough to join when you look!

you really are. You're joining dots that aren't even there! you bang on about agenda, but yours is by far the biggest!

Agree, the club have done the right thing. Not sure if someone engaging in the competition can denote the terms of punishment to another club. If palace are deducted 3 points I think it would still make them safe. It would have an effect on our goal difference and pull us in closer to Norwich.

it isn't going to happen. Get real.

Its hard to argue on the basis of other results. Look at Sunderland at man City! Freak results happen, that result might have given the team confidence to go on this run and taken the pressure off. Its impossible to tell and you almost have to make the decision to punish in isolation to all of that.

no it isn't. If you are seriously suggesting we lost that game because of an alleged leak, your head is buried further in the sand than I thought it was.

PS - maybe the fact that is isn't a sticky is because there are no MODs online?! doesn't suit your agenda that though, does it?

I see you've still not learnt to read what I actually type. Oh Chuckles

Even if this only increased Palace's chance of winning the game by a few percent. That's still a few percent - it shouldn't matter if it's .1% or 50%

Unfair advantage [CHEATING] shouldn't be tolerated.

but there is indeed a lack of grace towards Ole on here.

& there isn't about Mackay?! Dear me, there's slanderous topics and posts made about Malky on here almost daily!

You are indeed correct. Malky deserves so much better too - a legend of the club.

I see you've still not learnt to read what I actually type. Oh Chuckles

Still the person on here with the biggest agenda? Despite crying about other people's agendas? Oh Red.

I see you've still not learnt to read what I actually type. Oh Chuckles

Still the person on here with the biggest agenda? Despite crying about other people's agendas? Oh Red.

Nope! Still not learnt!

Pointless. Palace have done nothing wrong. Just Tan being a little bitch as usual.

The man you hired got absolutely schooled on the day, accept it.

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