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Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Drop.

Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:16 pm

Daily Mail

' CARDIFF CITY ARE NOW TO BE PUT UNDER INVESTIGATION. '

Cardiff City face a Premier League investigation after owner Vincent Tan offered his players a £3.7million bonus before Sunday’s defeat by Tottenham.

Sportsmail can reveal Tan broke Premier League rules, which state every team must lodge their bonus schedule before the start of the season, when he gave his players a financial
incentive to avoid relegation.

It is understood Tan did not offer the Cardiff squad a bonus to avoid the drop before the campaign began because he did not believe they would be in a relegation fight after his significant investment.

Instead, the controversial owner walked into Saturday evening’s team meeting at the Hilton Hotel on London’s Park Lane and stunned the players with his extraordinary offer.

Tan told the Cardiff squad they would ‘need to shoot more’ if they wanted the bonus at the end of the season.

He promised the squad, who were sitting open-mouthed, £3.7m to share between them if they survived their first season in the Barclays Premier League.

At the start of the campaign every club must register any bonuses not mentioned in players’ contracts with the Premier League to protect the integrity of the game at the highest level.

The regulation is designed to stop owners such as Tan using financial inducements to motivate players and other staff outside of their existing agreements.

However, clubs were given a month’s grace this year because of the new TV deals.

Many players believed they should take a bigger slice of the TV pool and several clubs could not reach agreement with them before the first game. Premier League chiefs gave every team a month to settle their affairs but they were not allowed to alter or make verbal agreements after these had been lodged.

Now the Premier League are to investigate the Cardiff owner after sources close to Tan confirmed he had made the offer to his players.

Tan breached Premier League rules T12 and T13 by offering a financial inducement outside of the players’ contracts.

According to T12: ‘Full details of a player’s remuneration, including all benefits to which he is entitled, whether in cash or in kind, shall be set out in his contract.’

T13 says: ‘The terms of a contract between a club and a player shall be strictly adhered to.

‘According to those players’ contracts, the bonus schedule agreed with the squad at the start of a season and lodged with the Premier League cannot be changed during the season under any circumstances.’

Tan’s offer did not have the desired effect on Sunday at White Hart Lane, where Cardiff lost 1-0 to Tottenham following a first home goal in open play from £27m striker Roberto Soldado.

On Monday night the Premier League confirmed they would write to Tan to ask him for his observations.

The Premier League board have a number of options available to them if they find Tan guilty of an offence, including a fine.

If the matter is deemed serious enough, it can be taken to an independent regulatory commission, where the sanctions - including fines and points deductions - are almost unlimited.

Cardiff seem to be hurtling towards relegation and are second from bottom in the Premier League table after losing three of their last four league games.

Malky Mackay’s sacking in December after a series of clashes with Tan over transfer policy and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s appointment as manager have resulted in a dramatic drop-off in form.

The players are in open revolt against the club hierarchy and Solskjaer, in his first job in the Premier League, seems unable to motivate them.

The former Manchester United striker’s authority was significantly undermined on Saturday evening when Tan arrived at the team hotel and announced he would be addressing the players.

As the Norwegian stepped aside, Tan declared his offer to the Cardiff squad.

A spokesman for the billionaire Malaysian businessman said on Monday night: ‘We didn’t realise it was against regulations. Vincent Tan has now rescinded the offer.’


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -drop.html

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:23 pm

Yet Malky was apparently the 'idiot' with cash.

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:32 pm

Hope this is not true, anything else would be idiotic behavior, and bad judgment. Can´t believe this was OGS meant as Tan´s motivating talk before the match.

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:36 pm

Willy-Wonka wrote:Yet Malky was apparently the 'idiot' with cash.


Makes you think ;) Along with the OGS bonus to keep us up :o

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:43 pm

Seemed to have worked when we narrowly lost and will be up for it on Sat :lol:

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:43 pm

TopCat CCFC wrote:Cardiff owner Tan offers players illegal £3.7m bonus to beat Premier League drop
By NEIL ASHTON
PUBLISHED: 22:32, 3 March 2014 | UPDATED: 22:59, 3 March 2014

Cardiff chief stuns strugglers with incentive ahead of last Sunday's clash with Spurs
Tan broke Premier League rules by offering bonus during the season
Owner encouraged players 'to shoot more' if they wanted cash
Cardiff City are to be investigated by the Barclays Premier League after owner Vincent Tan offered his players an illegal £3.7million bonus before Sunday’s game against Tottenham.
Sportsmail can reveal Tan broke Premier League rules by offering Cardiff’s players the incentive to stay up. League rules say clubs must lodge bonus schedules before the start of the season.
The club’s owner walked into a team meeting at the Hilton Hotel in London’s Park Lane on Saturday evening and stunned the players with his offer.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -drop.html


Here we go again :o :sad7:

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:49 pm

And we were all told that Moody was sacked because he was leaking info to the press yet leaks like this is still happening!!!

Tan and his side kicks found out once again!!!!

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:02 am

I think its quite funny lol.

But come on Illegal bonus, I can picture tan and the reactions from players.

Its the mans money if he wants to reward his players shouldnt be no problem.

You dont see them bringing illegal winter breaks or abromavichs yot.
or team party in ireland etc

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:11 am

sloper_road_legend wrote:I think its quite funny lol.

But come on Illegal bonus, I can picture tan and the reactions from players.

Its the mans money if he wants to reward his players shouldnt be no problem.

You dont see them bringing illegal winter breaks or abromavichs yot.
or team party in ireland etc

It's in the rules that you can't offer bonuses during the season.

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:13 am

Military Junta wrote:And we were all told that Moody was sacked because he was leaking info to the press yet leaks like this is still happening!!!

Tan and his side kicks found out once again!!!!





Quote (Adam Brown): "Tan and his side kicks found out once again!!!!"

Or have they, Adam?? Some refutals already starting :? :?

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:30 am

Just one thing after another...

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:41 am

Anyone care to explain why such a vagrant breach of premier rules , and obvously common knowledge doesnt make the sports news ? Radio ect :roll:

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:29 am

Is there anyway we could face a points deduction if this is true

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:33 am

Abromovich did it before champions league final. Happens all the time and the chairman of leyton orient did it

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:35 am

All I will say is the Mail have now been virtually spot on for the last 2years, even Tan followers have admitted that.

Very interesting, no wonder they improved v Spurs and Ole said the players were happy that Tan visited them, money talks :lol: :lol:

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:46 am

Forever Blue wrote:All I will say is the Mail have now been virtually spot on for the last 2years, even Tan followers have admitted that.

Very interesting, no wonder they improved v Spurs and Ole said the players were happy that Tan visited them, money talks :lol: :lol:



No bonuses to be offered or discussed during the season but we were led to believe that there was a row over bonuses prior to the start of the Newcastle game.
Does anyone really think the players will actually come out in public and back the mails story up. There is obviously an ongoing agenda between the mail and tan that will all fade into insignificance when we go down

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:51 am

steve davies wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:All I will say is the Mail have now been virtually spot on for the last 2years, even Tan followers have admitted that.

Very interesting, no wonder they improved v Spurs and Ole said the players were happy that Tan visited them, money talks :lol: :lol:



No bonuses to be offered or discussed during the season but we were led to believe that there was a row over bonuses prior to the start of the Newcastle game.

those were bonuses already earned from the previous year, its completely different.

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:56 am

steve davies wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:All I will say is the Mail have now been virtually spot on for the last 2years, even Tan followers have admitted that.

Very interesting, no wonder they improved v Spurs and Ole said the players were happy that Tan visited them, money talks :lol: :lol:



No bonuses to be offered or discussed during the season but we were led to believe that there was a row over bonuses prior to the start of the Newcastle game.
Does anyone really think the players will actually come out in public and back the mails story up. There is obviously an ongoing agenda between the mail and tan that will all fade into insignificance when we go down


Not too sure how you can compare Newcastlegate to this. Totally different situation.

Some ofus sing "Vincent Tan he does what he wants". This could quite easily be his downfall. He is his own worse enemy.

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:57 am

Never even knew that was a rule and tbh I bet a lot of people would have said the same if it wasn't an opportunity to have a go at Tan.

Good on him for doing everything he could to keep us up.

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:59 am

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
steve davies wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:All I will say is the Mail have now been virtually spot on for the last 2years, even Tan followers have admitted that.

Very interesting, no wonder they improved v Spurs and Ole said the players were happy that Tan visited them, money talks :lol: :lol:



No bonuses to be offered or discussed during the season but we were led to believe that there was a row over bonuses prior to the start of the Newcastle game.

those were bonuses already earned from the previous year, its completely different.




The row was over a bonus for the end of this coming season.

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:03 am

Ok then I hadn't heard of that one.

Just heard about the row of promotion bonuses where Tan wouldn't pay them. Assumed that was the one you were talking about.

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:04 am

steve davies wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
steve davies wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:All I will say is the Mail have now been virtually spot on for the last 2years, even Tan followers have admitted that.

Very interesting, no wonder they improved v Spurs and Ole said the players were happy that Tan visited them, money talks :lol: :lol:



No bonuses to be offered or discussed during the season but we were led to believe that there was a row over bonuses prior to the start of the Newcastle game.

those were bonuses already earned from the previous year, its completely different.




The row was over a bonus for the end of this coming season.


Was it?

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:06 am

Aramore wrote:Never even knew that was a rule and tbh I bet a lot of people would have said the same if it wasn't an opportunity to have a go at Tan.

Good on him for doing everything he could to keep us up.


Must admit I thought the same regarding this rule. Personally I can't see why such a rule exists.

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:09 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
steve davies wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
steve davies wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:All I will say is the Mail have now been virtually spot on for the last 2years, even Tan followers have admitted that.

Very interesting, no wonder they improved v Spurs and Ole said the players were happy that Tan visited them, money talks :lol: :lol:



No bonuses to be offered or discussed during the season but we were led to believe that there was a row over bonuses prior to the start of the Newcastle game.

those were bonuses already earned from the previous year, its completely different.




The row was over a bonus for the end of this coming season.


Was it?



Ian

Yes it was all promotion bonuses were paid in full in June.
Apparently our beloved players apart from earning wages, appearance bonuses and win bonuses automatically expect some sort of bonus at the end of the season regardless of what position we finish so that the poor loves can take their families on holidays.
Tan was not aware of this and that was what the row was over.
Greedy players eh never thought I would see the day

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:14 am

POINTS DEDUCTION?

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:15 am

steve davies wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
steve davies wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
steve davies wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:All I will say is the Mail have now been virtually spot on for the last 2years, even Tan followers have admitted that.

Very interesting, no wonder they improved v Spurs and Ole said the players were happy that Tan visited them, money talks :lol: :lol:



No bonuses to be offered or discussed during the season but we were led to believe that there was a row over bonuses prior to the start of the Newcastle game.

those were bonuses already earned from the previous year, its completely different.




The row was over a bonus for the end of this coming season.


Was it?



Ian

Yes it was all promotion bonuses were paid in full in June.
Apparently our beloved players apart from earning wages, appearance bonuses and win bonuses automatically expect some sort of bonus at the end of the season regardless of what position we finish so that the poor loves can take their families on holidays.
Tan was not aware of this and that was what the row was over.
Greedy players eh never thought I would see the day

Good job they aren't on performance related pay

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:16 am

Yeah, ok, like this doesn't happen at most other clubs :lol: The only difference is, it's been leaked and the media, especially the Mail have chosen to run it :thumbup:
Slap on the wrist for Tan, but hopefully the players have got the motivation they needed :thumbup:

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:26 am

steve davies wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
steve davies wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
steve davies wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:All I will say is the Mail have now been virtually spot on for the last 2years, even Tan followers have admitted that.

Very interesting, no wonder they improved v Spurs and Ole said the players were happy that Tan visited them, money talks :lol: :lol:



No bonuses to be offered or discussed during the season but we were led to believe that there was a row over bonuses prior to the start of the Newcastle game.

those were bonuses already earned from the previous year, its completely different.




The row was over a bonus for the end of this coming season.


Was it?



Ian

Yes it was all promotion bonuses were paid in full in June.
Apparently our beloved players apart from earning wages, appearance bonuses and win bonuses automatically expect some sort of bonus at the end of the season regardless of what position we finish so that the poor loves can take their families on holidays.
Tan was not aware of this and that was what the row was over.
Greedy players eh never thought I would see the day


Unbelievable this.

Tan must be kicking himself for not showing much interest in the beginning. He must be a laughing stock in his corporate world at the moment.

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:28 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
steve davies wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
steve davies wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
steve davies wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:All I will say is the Mail have now been virtually spot on for the last 2years, even Tan followers have admitted that.

Very interesting, no wonder they improved v Spurs and Ole said the players were happy that Tan visited them, money talks :lol: :lol:



No bonuses to be offered or discussed during the season but we were led to believe that there was a row over bonuses prior to the start of the Newcastle game.

those were bonuses already earned from the previous year, its completely different.




The row was over a bonus for the end of this coming season.


Was it?



Ian

Yes it was all promotion bonuses were paid in full in June.
Apparently our beloved players apart from earning wages, appearance bonuses and win bonuses automatically expect some sort of bonus at the end of the season regardless of what position we finish so that the poor loves can take their families on holidays.
Tan was not aware of this and that was what the row was over.
Greedy players eh never thought I would see the day


Unbelievable this.

Tan must be kicking himself for not showing much interest in the beginning. He must be a laughing stock in his corporate world at the moment.




I would have thought with that waistline ian he would have been used to being a laughing stock years ago.

Re: Tan Offers Players Illegal £3.7M Bonus - To Beat The Dro

Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:31 am

is it really true tho?