Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:27 am
Barry Chuckle wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:He basically acquired the club for £1 and tried to close it and its assets to pay off the debt and pocket the profit.
Not sure if you saw my edit but he sold Stuart Roberts to Wycombe for next to nothing when he was one of the most sought after wingers in the lower league at the time. He was utterly clueless to his true worth and Robert's sale should have put us in good stead to service the debt and still continue as a club.
He then called in all our senior players and tried to sack them all just to see out the remainder of the season before winding the club up.
He was a parasite praying on our desperate club for a few bucks.
What a guy.
Nah, as I read that, I had some recollections come back to me. Jacks did well to oust him.
Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:30 am
Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:54 am
Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:09 am
Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:10 am
pembroke allan wrote:Surely the point is the club deprived companies and individuals of what they were entitled to namely full debt not 5% or whatever it was? Maybe they didnt go bust but they was obviously effected in some way.
Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:15 am
Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:19 pm
Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:34 pm
Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:38 pm
Bluebird_87 wrote:Question : what happens to the companies that voted against the CVA? Were they forced to accept the terms of it regardless?
Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:11 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Bluebird_87 wrote:Question : what happens to the companies that voted against the CVA? Were they forced to accept the terms of it regardless?
Think so.
Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:13 pm
Bluebird_87 wrote:Question : what happens to the companies that voted against the CVA? Were they forced to accept the terms of it regardless?
Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:18 pm
Magic daps wrote:Bluebird_87 wrote:Question : what happens to the companies that voted against the CVA? Were they forced to accept the terms of it regardless?
THE future of debt-ridden Swansea City was virtually assured last night after creditors voted overwhelmingly in favour of accepting the club's five pence5P in the pound offer.
The Swans who are 1.7m in the red and in danger of going out of business, saw Company Voluntary Arrangement (CVA) as the only way of securing their future.
And yesterday, at a sombre meeting at Swansea's Marriott Hotel, the vast majority of unsecured creditors backed the club's proposal which means the Swans now have to pay around pounds 450,000 to wipe its financial slate clean.
Most of that sum (pounds 358,000) is owed to the Inland Revenue.
Former manager Colin Addison and his assistant Peter Nicholas voted against the CVA offer, as did former youth team manager Paul Compton and ex-defender Mathew Bound.
Ex-Swansea manager John Hollins, who is claiming pounds 250,000 from the club, was not present at the meeting but he sent a representative to vote against the offer.
But Hollins scored a bureaucratic own goal - his vote did not count because he failed to return the appropriate forms to Stones & Co, the accountants overseeing the CVA, which would have allowed someone to vote on his behalf.
Hollins's vote would not have mattered anyway. The club needed creditors responsible for 75 per cent of the unsecured debt to vote in favour of CVA and in the end they got 92.4 per cent.
Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:36 pm
Bluebird_87 wrote:Magic daps wrote:Bluebird_87 wrote:Question : what happens to the companies that voted against the CVA? Were they forced to accept the terms of it regardless?
THE future of debt-ridden Swansea City was virtually assured last night after creditors voted overwhelmingly in favour of accepting the club's five pence5P in the pound offer.
The Swans who are 1.7m in the red and in danger of going out of business, saw Company Voluntary Arrangement (CVA) as the only way of securing their future.
And yesterday, at a sombre meeting at Swansea's Marriott Hotel, the vast majority of unsecured creditors backed the club's proposal which means the Swans now have to pay around pounds 450,000 to wipe its financial slate clean.
Most of that sum (pounds 358,000) is owed to the Inland Revenue.
Former manager Colin Addison and his assistant Peter Nicholas voted against the CVA offer, as did former youth team manager Paul Compton and ex-defender Mathew Bound.
Ex-Swansea manager John Hollins, who is claiming pounds 250,000 from the club, was not present at the meeting but he sent a representative to vote against the offer.
But Hollins scored a bureaucratic own goal - his vote did not count because he failed to return the appropriate forms to Stones & Co, the accountants overseeing the CVA, which would have allowed someone to vote on his behalf.
Hollins's vote would not have mattered anyway. The club needed creditors responsible for 75 per cent of the unsecured debt to vote in favour of CVA and in the end they got 92.4 per cent.
So that's a yes then. Can understand why some investments got annoyed by this though from a personal point of view.
Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:44 pm
Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:52 pm
Bluebird_87 wrote:Where are the 7 that voted against it then?
Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:59 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:Bluebird_87 wrote:Where are the 7 that voted against it then?
Don't be silly... The welsh NHS Ambulance Trust aren't local of course!
Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:45 pm
Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:25 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Gets posted all the time here and lots of on topic discussions get side tracked by it, so here it is in one thread where we can refer back or link to when it gets brought up.
Here is the total list of companies owed - can anyone find one that ceased trading as a result?
Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:55 pm
Neath Bluebird wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:Gets posted all the time here and lots of on topic discussions get side tracked by it, so here it is in one thread where we can refer back or link to when it gets brought up.
Here is the total list of companies owed - can anyone find one that ceased trading as a result?
Here is one for you to consider:
Neath Port Talbot council were never paid and was written off, so in effect "I have been robbed". And on another note, Swansea council still owe £3.2m to neath port Talbot council as a loan for building the council house, hence, there will be no extension until this is re-paid. Just saying like!!!
Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:32 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:Bluebird_87 wrote:Where are the 7 that voted against it then?
Don't be silly... The welsh NHS Ambulance Trust aren't local of course!
Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:37 pm
64JACK wrote:
It's not a business though Bazz is it, and it didn't go bust? Oh hang on, your going to go down the road that SCFC essentially caused the deaths of hundreds of people as they couldn't afford to carry out emergency operations due to money owed by the Swans! .......................You are aren't you!
Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:03 am
Roath_Magic_ wrote:64JACK wrote:
It's not a business though Bazz is it, and it didn't go bust? Oh hang on, your going to go down the road that SCFC essentially caused the deaths of hundreds of people as they couldn't afford to carry out emergency operations due to money owed by the Swans! .......................You are aren't you!
This is one of the prime examples of someone who would have benefitted massively by our continued existence. No idea why they voted against the CVA, I can only assume they recieved bad advice. They hold regular (or did when I was in the country) meetings at the Liberty with free use of conference rooms
Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:09 am
64JACK wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:Bluebird_87 wrote:Where are the 7 that voted against it then?
Don't be silly... The welsh NHS Ambulance Trust aren't local of course!
It's not a business though Bazz is it, and it didn't go bust? Oh hang on, your going to go down the road that SCFC essentially caused the deaths of hundreds of people as they couldn't afford to carry out emergency operations due to money owed by the Swans! .......................You are aren't you!
Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:15 am
Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:31 am
Neath Bluebird wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:Gets posted all the time here and lots of on topic discussions get side tracked by it, so here it is in one thread where we can refer back or link to when it gets brought up.
Here is the total list of companies owed - can anyone find one that ceased trading as a result?
Here is one for you to consider:
Neath Port Talbot council were never paid and was written off, so in effect "I have been robbed". And on another note, Swansea council still owe £3.2m to neath port Talbot council as a loan for building the council house, hence, there will be no extension until this is re-paid. Just saying like!!!
Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:11 am
carlccfc wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:Gets posted all the time here and lots of on topic discussions get side tracked by it, so here it is in one thread where we can refer back or link to when it gets brought up.
Here is the total list of companies owed - can anyone find one that ceased trading as a result?
D Coaches = Diamond Coaches ???