BBC:VINCENT TAN SAYS " RESIGN OR I WILL SACK U "

Liverpool fan here (taken hours to get verified!) but I think the dismissal of Malky, as it will be soon, is disgusting. I thought Hull are mismanaged, until Tan.

Good luck, and keep fighting. We had H&G for years and managed to force them out (check for their comments about Liverpool fans) so hopefully you can do the same.

FA/Premier League need to take a long cold look at their Fit and Proper Person tests...Tan, H&G, Carson Yeung, Assem Allam et al. I'm sure none of these would be allowed at a FTSE100 company.

Good luck for the future...after Saturday obv.

You missed out Sam Hammam Ian the red

BBC Sport understands?? I will understand if bbc sport show proof of this email or it could be made up

Jinks,
Just on the TV News, Cardiff City FC refuse to deny this email.
BBC would not state if it was not true.

I have just spoken to two people in the club and both 100% confirm it.

Thats it then Malky is going!

Bloody crazy if this is true!

Our loss is a massive gain for another club. :roll:

Unless our new manager turns out to be the best ever then nobody will care

Jinks, u dont seem to care about anything to do with our club, as long its Prem.

I don't give two hoots for Malky if we are in the premiership or not if he goes and we get a better manager then thanks Malky for what you did but i won't lose sleep about him going or anyone else for that matter...
Managers come and go the same as owners i ain't loyal to any of them..

Jinks assuming that we will get a better manager. anything for his beloved Tan.

Long time lurker, but this mess has driven me to sign up to post my views.

I'm an exiled Cardiff boy in London, so I don't get to go down to games often and unfortunately most of what I actually see is in the form of TV highlights.

What Tan is doing is outrageous, the man knows nothing about football it seems. Is he so blind that he can't see fans are turning on him? Unfortunately due to my location I can't make much of a protest.

This wouldn't be allowed to happen in any business that isn't football.

#TanOut #TeamMalky

Jinks assuming that we will get a better manager. anything for his beloved Tan.

I don't give two shits for Tan either chucks. Don't you ever assume? I tend to look for positives

Jinks assuming that we will get a better manager. anything for his beloved Tan.

I don't give two shits for Tan either chucks. Don't you ever assume? I tend to look for positives

Why are you so happy to back his whims then? You defend them all the time.

I don't see many positives to Tan's reign.

Pathetic . 15th in table and more than a point a game . Can't wait for the Malaysian rats to f**k off . I expect more cheap red tat to be given away in a forthcoming game . Will probably keep quite a few happy

I don't think it's a question of whether Malky is good or bad... The way this is unfolding is just a total embarrassment. Malky is contracted and if Tan had any integrity he should just pay Malky off and get someone new in - and he should have done this the same time as Moody went. Dragging this on and the public back and forth is embarrassing and makes the club look farcical...

The fact that it's obvious that Tan doesn't want to dip into his pocked for the compensation money is ridiculous as Malky has no reason to resign (except for Tan's interference)... At the start of the season I would have taken the points total we have now. Of course some games have been a disappointment but in general we should be happy with the progress we are making in terms of our PL results.

No sane person would want to come and manage this club when the owner is a nutter, and even interferes in team selection/tactics... Of course with a high salary and the ability to get PL experience people will be queueing up for his job but the new manager will be booted out in a year or so too, as you can never satisfy someone like Tan. I truly believe we need to get him out of our club... There are some great owners out there - John Hendry, Bill Kenwright, to name two that spring to mind... And there must be someone out there who is interested in improving our club and loves football - great club, great fanbase, great stadium, even better potential! #tanout

This situation reminds me of when Flavio Briatore went bat shit at QPR. Tony Fernandes has made mistakes too but QPR were in an absolute mess when the Directors interfered and made sure no Manager was allowed to get on with his job. The re-brand is almost unheard of in football but Tan has now surpassed himself here.

I feel so sorry for you fans. If Thaksin Shinawatra was still at Man City then we'd probably be in a similar mess.

I don't think it's a question of whether Malky is good or bad... The way this is unfolding is jus dismissal embarrassment. Malky is contracted and if Tan had any integrity he should just pay Malky off and get someone new in - and he should have done this the same time as Moody went. Dragging this on and the public back and forth is embarrassing and makes the club look farcical...

The fact that it's obvious that Tan doesn't want to dip into his pocked for the compensation money is ridiculous as Malky has no reason to resign (except for Tan's interference)... At the start of the season I would have taken the points total we have now. Of course some games have been a disappointment but in general we should be happy with the progress we are making in terms of our PL results.

No sane person would want to come and manage this club when the owner is a nutter, and even interferes in team selection/tactics... Of course with a high salary and the ability to get PL experience people will be queueing up for his job but the new manager will be booted out in a year or so too, as you can never satisfy someone like Tan. I truly believe we need to get him out of our club... There are some great owners out there - John Hendry, Bill Kenwright, to name two that spring to mind... And there must be someone out there who is interested in improving our club and loves football - great club, great fanbase, great stadium, even better potential! #tanout

if this email is true tan as automatically given malky the right to resign and sue for constructive dismissal! So why hasn't malky gone? More to this than we know about..

Alright lads - I'm the admin over at This is Anfield. I like to pop in on opponent's forums every now and again to gauge the mood prior to a match, but this time around felt compelled to sign up.

Liverpool fans, and am sure football fans everywhere, are in your corner with this muppet of an owner. As my fellow fan said above, we know just what it's like to have an owner that made vindictive decisions, loaded debt on the club, and didn't give a toss about the supporters. Keep fighting the fight, hopefully when you visit Anfield next year you'll be back in blue and not having to put up with this shite.

I have decided to respond to each of your points...

Not bothered in the slightest.

1) Tan backed Malky fully in the summer yet a lot of money was wasted on Cornelius who by Malky's own admission was never ready to dive straight in at this level of play - absurd given that the money could have gone towards the Montero and Ince deals to bring in two players who would have given us more of a cutting edge up front - which we are currently in dire need of

Cornelius has been injured. Cornelius has been injured. You have no idea that he is a waste of money as he hasn't even played one half of Premier League football. Rudy and Mason were sent on loan as soon as he recovered so clearly there is belief in him from those at the club who have actually seen him play. Voices like yours were saying the exact same thing about Mutch and Kimbo last year. There is always a scapegoat at CCFC. You have just joined a cliched bandwagon. Ince would have been a great signing but he turned us down. Who really knows what happened with Montero? Maybe the agent wanted to play games or maybe we had spent our limit by this point.

2) Tan bought us by his own admission in interview as an investment and business. He has been clear with this from the moment he got involved with the club and wants to maximise his profits and business portfolio using us. He hasn't pretended that he is the greatest footballing man and yes he has stated he would try to learn the game but he is a business man first and foremost and as a business man he has the right to be annoyed with the amount of money wasted on transfers in the summer

If he hasn't pretended that he is the greatest football man then why is he making interfering communications during games? This could be a fictitious report but a lot of journalists have jumped on this. Did Malky deny this? I'm not too sure. Has money been wasted on transfers? No. I'm sure that if we sold the same personel in the next transfer window that we bought in the last I'm absolutely sure we would get the same money back and even a turn a healthy profit (at this early stage)

3) Cornelius has so far proven to be a waste of money unless we end up back in the Championship where he may end up useful

See above. He could turn out to be worth much more than his price tag. He is a very young player with rare physical attributs that most clubs crave. I don't know how good he might turn out to be and neither do you.

4) The Brayford signing was borderline insane and nothing else needs to be said on that

I didn't see the Brayford flop at the time. I thought he was a player with Premier League ability. He hasn't looked good playing along side inexperienced players. I can see him going on loan to a Championship side and proving himself again. £1.5m is not the biggest gamble the Premier League has seen.

5) The Velikonja signing was insane and that was a signing by Malky and he has admitted to that

Who signed him? Was Malky just backing up his new chairmen by rambling about how he had scouted him at Watford. I don't know, but I think so. Who knows? He needs a loan fast though.

6) I dislike Tan for the rebrand but on this I agree with him wholeheartedly. I would in his position be irate with the spending that took place in the summer and whilst it was signed off by him he would have trusted Malky's football judgement and he put that true belief in Malky to sign players of quality with his money yet Malky wasted it. How must Tan feel with that?

How the hell did this spending pass Tan by!? Tan is merely failing once again at diabolical PR. He spoke about Tony Fernandes in the summer and how he wouldn't be conned by agents (Montero). Did he let this spending happen so he could be seen in to have good reason to sack MM mid-season?

7) Tan is not an endless pit of cash like Man City's owner or Roman Abramovich who can fund the club using interest and annual profits. He wants to implement a fully sustainable model hence all the changes and debt payoffs to our liabilities which you can happily check out yourself online with a bit of digging. By wasting tens of millions of pounds as Malky and Moody did in the summer we are heading down that same path of instability financially and we'll be back on the brink of admin and square one before you know it.

How many players that Malky has brought in have been sold on??? How much did the likes of Mutch, Kimbo, Taylor, Turner, Caulker, Gunnarson, KTC and Campbell actually cost us in fees?? How much would they bring in if they were sold?? You cannot conclude that any of CCFC's playing assets are a waste of money until they are sold on.

8) Why was Kevin McNaughton given a new contract? What's the purpose of this when he has just been shipped out on loan and how much are they contributing to his wages? I'd love to know as that could yet be more expenditure wasted on players that are of no benefit to us at this level.

Fair point on Kev but we're not paying his wages now are we? Though the MM ethos of teamwork and unity is what got us promoted and pulled our club from the gutter to being a club that players want to fight for. Yes it was a unnecessary expense, but maybe the club incentivised the rest of its playing staff with this statement by saying - you fight and stay loyal to us and we will honour and reward that. We are more than just a business of numbers. We are a family.

9) We are a Premier League club now but not an established one. We, if we are to survive at this level, need to be shrewd in our financial dealings and need to ensure we do not waste millions on players like QPR did. We have not wasted as much as they did and we fortunately at this point don't find ourselves in the mess they did but we still need to be clever to both increase turnover and profit margins and therefore reinvestment on the right assets

We have not wasted like QPR have. This time last year QPR were cannon fodder and all but doomed. They had none of the work ethic and desire that this CCFC team has. There are quite a few that look much more likely for relegation than us. Though, if this story that we are responding to turns out to be true, Tan might just have made us ten times more likely to go down. If MM had a full season untampered, I believe he would have kept us up. Who knows now?

10) Malky has many faults many refuse to see due to (a) him getting us promotion after years of heartbreak, (b) the ability to side with him in this inner club political war with the owner of whom many hate due to the rebrand, Tan, and (c) because of his rapport and attitude with the fans and ethos of 'we're all in this together as a unit and the fans are everything'. Malky talks the great talk but the combination of his stubbornness of playing style, substitutes, favourites and his ineptness and wastefulness has to cost him his job. In any other business and thats what football is these days, he'd have been sent walking a long time ago. I believe Tan has been patient but the ' I want 3 more players' statement was the final straw for Tan and he snapped and he has every single right to do so as a business owner.

(a)Yes. Malky got us promotion after years of heartbreak. We had a phenomenally consistent season and we were the best team by some way. (b) The rebrand is a different debate. But Tan's public relations are clearly very very poorly considered. Why does he even want to create a divide between himself and the most respected manager, by fans and media, that CCFC has had in our lifetimes?? (c) Malky does talk a great talk, which yes, is often politics. But this is what the very best managers do and it's a massive part of the game and leadership in any capacity... And what's this rubbish about playing style? When we play teams at our level or below, we look fluid, adaptable and progressive. Our organisation without the ball is phenomenal. Most teams in this league are better than us. Of course we going to have to play ugly a lot of the time. We need points to service basically half the points you have made!

11) Hate Tan as much as you want for the rebrand and thats fine but in this regard he is totally right. Is he right to air it publicly? Not really as business should be kept behind closed doors but I can see why he did snap when the statement was made to the press. He is a business man trying to turn around the financial fortunes of his latest investment and the men he's entrusted to spend his cash wisely have by their own admission squandered it on players not ready. Cornelius' value crashes if we end up back in the Championship and he's not plying his trade against the best. That's club assets losing worth per season and thats bad.

You haven't said anything different here so I won't either. How was this money spent without Tan's knowledge? I thought he was meant to be a business genius. Tan knew exactly what was going on. The Moody affair and this affair has backfired. He should be sacking his PR team and get in some smart and honest people who have experience of the football industry and the media over here. Or just listen to Steve Borley.

12) I am not prepared to see the club I support go under because of the idiotic spending of a few. I have seen my club go down that path once before in my short lifetime and once was enough. Why can't we learn from mistakes? You can't have a financially sound club being run whilst allowing staff to waste large sums of cash on players not contributing to the businesses cause. This is the real world with strict financial restriction imposed by higher powers, where the tax system will pounce on you like no tomorrow. This is not a football management video game where you can enter a cheat and generate loads of cash to spend. How lovely would that be? This is real life and we need to be careful or we might spend our way back to depths of the pyramid system.

The odds of our revenue decreasing by a cool £80m a year just went through the roof after this latest nightmare.

Congratulations. That was the worst post I've ever seen on this board. Maybe you should go back to ****ing over George Osborne's autobiography?

Yeah do that.

Come on White.Noise. Have you got nothing else to say?

If Tan has his house in such tight order as you make out, why has he chosen this weekend of all weekends to draw attention to the 'bad job' Malky has done? The TV cameras will show on Saturday Brendan Rodgers showing full respect for Malky before and after the game. I would expect LFC fans to show respect also. The players will give everything for Malky on Saturday and if we get a point or a result, the will come out big time. That will be the shot for the highlight reel and the Sunday papers. And we might even be playing in blue...

... How can you argue that Tan's operation at Cardiff isn't an incompetently thought out, ill advised mess?

Vincent Tan, Cardiff's owner, was due to hold talks with Mehmet Dalman, the club's chairman, in London on Friday night. Mackay has not received any communication from Tan since the now notorious email that was sent to him by the Malaysian businessman earlier in the week, when the 41-year-old manager was told to resign or face being sacked.

Mackay, due a seven-figure sum in compensation if his contract is terminated, will not be walking away from the job that he has held for two and a half years.

It is believed that Tan is proposing to give the new manager substantial funds when the transfer window reopens, despite telling Mackay this week that "not a single penny" was available.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... ay-sacking?

I love Cardiff City. My first job was selling programmes at the club when I was a fifteen-year-old boy. I now live in China and only get to see games at Christmas when I come home, so what I am about to propose will really hurt me but I think it’s the only thing that we can do.

This is the best time in the history of the club to be a Cardiff fan yet we are being mocked far and wide. Mr. Tan must understand that we are extremely grateful for his investment in both the club and in our community. However, we also need him to understand our collective frustration. As we have seen with many clubs who’ve gone bankrupt or had to take on massive debts at the expense of new owners, songs, scarves, message board comments and even protests achieve nothing.

I therefore propose that every Cardiff fan foregoes their ticket on Boxing Day. A stadium with only away fans will make a united statement that will resonate around the world.

I understand that some people will fear that there is no way of being sure who, come the day will join me in my absence. To make things fair, I propose that unless we get 10,000 names and emails on the below document, we all attend and resign ourselves to what may come. If however, we can get 10,000 Bluebirds to pledge to being united in our absence then let’s carry out our inaction and send a message to the world.

If we succeed, I suggest that we carry on not attending until Mr. Tan states his public support for probably the greatest manager our club has even known.

I love my club, as I’m sure you do too. Only together can we save it.

Gareth Jones
Gelefu47@gmail.com

http://tinyurl.com/BoxingDayNoShowILoveCardiff

Not bothered in the slightest.

1) Tan backed Malky fully in the summer yet a lot of money was wasted on Cornelius who by Malky's own admission was never ready to dive straight in at this level of play - absurd given that the money could have gone towards the Montero and Ince deals to bring in two players who would have given us more of a cutting edge up front - which we are currently in dire need of

2) Tan bought us by his own admission in interview as an investment and business. He has been clear with this from the moment he got involved with the club and wants to maximise his profits and business portfolio using us. He hasn't pretended that he is the greatest footballing man and yes he has stated he would try to learn the game but he is a business man first and foremost and as a business man he has the right to be annoyed with the amount of money wasted on transfers in the summer

3) Cornelius has so far proven to be a waste of money unless we end up back in the Championship where he may end up useful

4) The Brayford signing was borderline insane and nothing else needs to be said on that

5) The Velikonja signing was insane and that was a signing by Malky and he has admitted to that

6) I dislike Tan for the rebrand but on this I agree with him wholeheartedly. I would in his position be irate with the spending that took place in the summer and whilst it was signed off by him he would have trusted Malky's football judgement and he put that true belief in Malky to sign players of quality with his money yet Malky wasted it. How must Tan feel with that?

7) Tan is not an endless pit of cash like Man City's owner or Roman Abramovich who can fund the club using interest and annual profits. He wants to implement a fully sustainable model hence all the changes and debt payoffs to our liabilities which you can happily check out yourself online with a bit of digging. By wasting tens of millions of pounds as Malky and Moody did in the summer we are heading down that same path of instability financially and we'll be back on the brink of admin and square one before you know it.

8) Why was Kevin McNaughton given a new contract? What's the purpose of this when he has just been shipped out on loan and how much are they contributing to his wages? I'd love to know as that could yet be more expenditure wasted on players that are of no benefit to us at this level.

9) We are a Premier League club now but not an established one. We, if we are to survive at this level, need to be shrewd in our financial dealings and need to ensure we do not waste millions on players like QPR did. We have not wasted as much as they did and we fortunately at this point don't find ourselves in the mess they did but we still need to be clever to both increase turnover and profit margins and therefore reinvestment on the right assets

10) Malky has many faults many refuse to see due to (a) him getting us promotion after years of heartbreak, (b) the ability to side with him in this inner club political war with the owner of whom many hate due to the rebrand, Tan, and (c) because of his rapport and attitude with the fans and ethos of 'we're all in this together as a unit and the fans are everything'. Malky talks the great talk but the combination of his stubbornness of playing style, substitutes, favourites and his ineptness and wastefulness has to cost him his job. In any other business and thats what football is these days, he'd have been sent walking a long time ago. I believe Tan has been patient but the ' I want 3 more players' statement was the final straw for Tan and he snapped and he has every single right to do so as a business owner.

11) Hate Tan as much as you want for the rebrand and thats fine but in this regard he is totally right. Is he right to air it publicly? Not really as business should be kept behind closed doors but I can see why he did snap when the statement was made to the press. He is a business man trying to turn around the financial fortunes of his latest investment and the men he's entrusted to spend his cash wisely have by their own admission squandered it on players not ready. Cornelius' value crashes if we end up back in the Championship and he's not plying his trade against the best. That's club assets losing worth per season and thats bad.

12) I am not prepared to see the club I support go under because of the idiotic spending of a few. I have seen my club go down that path once before in my short lifetime and once was enough. Why can't we learn from mistakes? You can't have a financially sound club being run whilst allowing staff to waste large sums of cash on players not contributing to the businesses cause. This is the real world with strict financial restriction imposed by higher powers, where the tax system will pounce on you like no tomorrow. This is not a football management video game where you can enter a cheat and generate loads of cash to spend. How lovely would that be? This is real life and we need to be careful or we might spend our way back to depths of the pyramid system.

Go suck Tan's cock then, prick

According to reports Tan would have been fully aware of what he was spending. We're talking about SUMMER signings he's criticising NOW. It's just an excuse he's looking for to justify sacking Malky. Last I heard Tan was worth 1.3 BILLION. Wealthy enough to have pledged half his income to charity ( so apparently he can't be all bad). What is a 15 million overspend worth to a billionaire? It's the equivalent of about 15 quid in mine and your money. Ok, nobody wants to squander cash, even a billionaire, but it's rubbish to say that this justifies Malky's dismissal. The money's not been wasted. Malky's the man who'll keep us in the premiership. Tan is an egotistical testicul. Be there Boxing Day for the demonstration!