' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some

' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some fans can even contemplate sacking him or having a go at him so early on in the season, but everyone is entitled to their opinions/beliefs.

' Malky Mackay Cardiff City '

' First Season.'

Carling Cup Final and took Liverpool to extra time and penalties, made the play-offs. Achieved this on a small budget.


' Second Season '

Champions of the Championship, one of the hardest divisions to get out of in Europe, but not just Champions, led it for more than half the season and became runaway Champions and brought Premier League football to Cardiff for the first time in 51 years.

Achieved this on a good budget.


' Third Season '

Premier League. Amazing start, seem to be able to hold there own, look like being in the bottom 8 all season but will surprise a few.



My personal opinion.
Managers are sacked to quickly.

For me even if were in the bottom 5 all season and relegated, I would give Malky till at least Xmas in the Championship to see if he could bring us back up.



Your opinions please.

' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some fans can even contemplate sacking him or having a go at him so early on in the season, but everyone is entitled to their opinions/beliefs.

' Malky Mackay Cardiff City '

' First Season.'

Carling Cup Final and took Liverpool to extra time and penalties, made the play-offs. Achieved this on a small budget.


' Second Season '

Champions of the Championship, one of the hardest divisions to get out of in Europe, but not just Champions, led it for more than half the season and became runaway Champions and brought Premier League football to Cardiff for the first time in 51 years.

Achieved this on a good budget.


' Third Season '

Premier League. Amazing start, seem to be able to hold there own, look like being in the bottom 8 all season but will surprise a few.



My personal opinion.
Managers are sacked to quickly.

For me even if were in the bottom 5 all season and relegated, I would give Malky till at least Xmas in the Championship to see if he could bring us back up.



Your opinions please.

For the first time in a while you and I agree on something.

In my opinion he is like Warnock - a great manager who knows how to get out of the Championship but not ready for this level which is an entirely different ball game. Sad but true. We had a good game vs Liverpool in the Carling Cup I agree but we had our days out too under Jones.

Malky did great taking us up and should always deserve respect for bringing in a new team in 2 seasons and doing what he did but fans need to be realistic, 95 shots against you in 5 games at this level is asking for trouble and its Malky's tactics that continuously leave us inviting pressure upon ourselves.

Watching Spurs play us was like Call of Duty Zombies. Sooner or later you knew after wave after wave of attack they'd eventually win and we'd lose and it happened in the end.

Good to hear Craig

But thats whats good about football, we all have our opinions and respect each other.

Agree 100%, what malky has done is amazing---even if we were relegated he should be given ALL of next season to try to get us back up-----a brilliant young british manager---we are very lucky to have him

its crazy....

look what malky has done so far....

and if we are really honest with ourselves, who would have honestly thought we would have got 4pts from 6 against man city and everton. our fixture list isnt as kind as some with our first 3 home games against top 6 teams.. i think we need to get a min of 4 pts from our next 2 games and that will set the bench mark of teams we need to get results against. i think the prem league this yr is not going to have a runaway leader and will be much more close. alot of teams and more matched this yr and it will come down to the day...

at the start of the season, i thought we would have beaten hull, but they have brought in some good players and have proved that with wins over norwich and newcastle and putting in a decent performance against chelsea.

i was expecting us to be on around 4pts at the moment so im pleased with what we have done so far.


malky still has cornelius out injured and its easty to see where he will fit in and it will take time to get odemwengie up to full speed and the players to gel properly.

If we got relegated then he should have, at the very least, a whole season to get us back up to the PL.

I don't agree with hardly anything you have to say normally, I agree with you this time. How anyone can even contemplate changing managers is unbelievable, apart from that there no one out there as a decent replacement anyway!

If we got relegated then he should have, at the very least, a whole season to get us back up to the PL.

So if we get relegated he gets another season to get us promotion so he can get us relegated again with his negative style of play.

If we got relegated then he should have, at the very least, a whole season to get us back up to the PL.

So if we get relegated he gets another season to get us promotion so he can get us relegated again with his negative style of play.

In my opinion he is like Warnock - a great manager who knows how to get out of the Championship but not ready for this level which is an entirely different ball game. Sad but true. We had a good game vs Liverpool in the Carling Cup I agree but we had our days out too under Jones.

Malky did great taking us up and should always deserve respect for bringing in a new team in 2 seasons and doing what he did but fans need to be realistic, 95 shots against you in 5 games at this level is asking for trouble and its Malky's tactics that continuously leave us inviting pressure upon ourselves.

Watching Spurs play us was like Call of Duty Zombies. Sooner or later you knew after wave after wave of attack they'd eventually win and we'd lose and it happened in the end.

I have seen your response to this thread and angelis thread.I just cant make you out as everything you comment on,it seems to come across as fact

f**k me we have some negative plonkers on here!

Just before Malky's appointment, we were down to about eight players. Dave Jones and the loanees had left. Time was getting on, and I honestly feared that we might have had a job staying up in the Championship. What Malky has achieved in the meantime is incredible. He deserves a lot more time, and our full backing.

Tan won't accept failure.
With 30 mill already spent and possibly more in jan I think he would be justified in thinking we should stay up.

My biggest concern over the summer was if Malky left for another club. He built a squad from nothing with little funds available when DJ left and with only weeks left until kick-off and has kept on delivering. As we know, there is no room for error at this level both in terms of playing and management, football is brutal like that. Malky is astute, organised and learns and adapts quickly. He also shows no sentiment in terms of changing players who are off the pace. He's built a framework where there are no egos and everyone gives 100%. We will always need quality and he will bring it in - look what he did in the summer and all under the radar. The trend for sacking managers after a tomato-season is knee-jerk short-termism by an unrealistic board or owner who expect immediate results instead of building something strong. I hope the Malky Mackay is around for a very long time as I believe he is the real deal.

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It's far too early to be talking about sacking our manager - it's the first time in the PL for both our club and our manager. We all knew some results wouldn't go our way and that most others tip us to go back down. As it is, we're doing better than most of us cared to think about a few months back...

At the end of the day, managers are sacked much too hastily these days and it's one aspect of the game I hate.

Malky deserves to stay in charge for the whole season if you ask me, regardless of how we're doing - he's put in so much effort to get us there, so for people to now say he's not fit to manage at this level, is nothing short of bollocks.

In my opinion he is like Warnock - a great manager who knows how to get out of the Championship but not ready for this level which is an entirely different ball game. Sad but true. We had a good game vs Liverpool in the Carling Cup I agree but we had our days out too under Jones.

Malky did great taking us up and should always deserve respect for bringing in a new team in 2 seasons and doing what he did but fans need to be realistic, 95 shots against you in 5 games at this level is asking for trouble and its Malky's tactics that continuously leave us inviting pressure upon ourselves.

Watching Spurs play us was like Call of Duty Zombies. Sooner or later you knew after wave after wave of attack they'd eventually win and we'd lose and it happened in the end.

I have seen your response to this thread and angelis thread.I just cant make you out as everything you comment on,it seems to come across as fact

Note the first three words 'in my opinion' - that's all my posts are and nothing more hence I don't see why some people get so worked up about them to be honest with you bob.

' Malky Mackay ' And its very sad that some fans can even contemplate sacking him or having a go at him so early on in the season, but everyone is entitled to their opinions/beliefs.

' Malky Mackay Cardiff City '

' First Season.'

Carling Cup Final and took Liverpool to extra time and penalties, made the play-offs. Achieved this on a small budget.


' Second Season '

Champions of the Championship, one of the hardest divisions to get out of in Europe, but not just Champions, led it for more than half the season and became runaway Champions and brought Premier League football to Cardiff for the first time in 51 years.

Achieved this on a good budget.


' Third Season '

Premier League. Amazing start, seem to be able to hold there own, look like being in the bottom 8 all season but will surprise a few.



My personal opinion.
Managers are sacked to quickly.

For me even if were in the bottom 5 all season and relegated, I would give Malky till at least Xmas in the Championship to see if he could bring us back up.



Your opinions please.

as an example take a look at southampton they took only 4 points from their first ten games last year.
it takes time to adjust to the pace and even swansea were struggling early doors in their first season. patience is something our supporters dont seem to have these days.

Could not agree more, if we go down I'd give him the whole of next season to take us back up, we've had hard games so far and are yet to play most teams who will be around the bottom come May, Malky will prevail

Sacking a manager at this time of the season is madness and only buffoons and sunderland supporters think otherwise.And changing tactics against top sides will only see us beat 4-1 or 5-2 instead of 1-0 like Blackpool a couple of years ago.It seems a few posters on here were denied their mothers tit as a youngster hence the dummyspitting after one reverse against a side that will qualify for champions league IMO.

Unless a really good manager is available with lots of experience we should stick with Malky and his players

I know we have been under a lot a pressure on regards to possession and shots on our goal but I think you have to look at the opposition we have faced in our opening games. All top half teams bar hull.

You can see that against these teams the emphasis has been on defence and making it hard for teams to break us down. So far this has been successful.

You can't judge malky yet until February at the latest in my opinion. By then we will have played everyone at least once, possibly strengthened in the transfer window, and seen how/if he will change his tactics against the teams around our level. We all knew it wouldn't be easy and relegation likely. But sacking him now? WTF

In my opinion he is like Warnock - a great manager who knows how to get out of the Championship but not ready for this level which is an entirely different ball game. Sad but true. We had a good game vs Liverpool in the Carling Cup I agree but we had our days out too under Jones.

Malky did great taking us up and should always deserve respect for bringing in a new team in 2 seasons and doing what he did but fans need to be realistic, 95 shots against you in 5 games at this level is asking for trouble and its Malky's tactics that continuously leave us inviting pressure upon ourselves.

Watching Spurs play us was like Call of Duty Zombies. Sooner or later you knew after wave after wave of attack they'd eventually win and we'd lose and it happened in the end.

im still trying to figure out whether your serious or a WUM

how can you say Malky isnt good enough for the Premier League he hasnt been tested across the length of a season so you have no point of reference to what he is capable of in the league.

95 shots in 5 games, yeah I suppose if you take that one statistic alone it doesnt look great but I cant remember the last team to get relegated from any league based on shots on goal, I always thought it was points and goals that counted.

pundits seem rather impressed with our performances, nobody really expected us to beat Man City we did, a point against Everton is a good result, West Ham was a poor performance, Hull City probably should have got 3 points but we were away and Hull would have wanted a result. Tottenham arguably the strongest team weve played so far to only lose 1-0 is a result in itself never expected to win and to keep our goal difference at a certain level is a priority as well as points on the board,

remember we are a promoted team we are looking at survival not winning the league

I think Malky is doing just fine, oh and just to put your 95 shots argument to bed we Cardiff City stopped 89 of those 95 shots hitting the back of the net, not bad!! in my opinion of course.

Agree with Annis on this one. He's done wonders for us since taking over and can't believe anyone would even think we'd be better off without him.

If the league finished today I would be a very happy man. Even if we did go down he would be the right man to get us back up.

Unless a really good manager is available with lots of experience we should stick with Malky and his players

Di Matteo.

In my opinion - seems to be the appropriate start - anyone thinking that MM needs to be sacked is talking utter rubbish. We have played FIVE games - 3 of then against top 6 finishers last season.

I think someone stated that we have had 96 shots against us - well only 6 of those actually went in the net - so we are defending well. We need to be more adventurous in attack and I am sure that will come.

So give MM a chance and enjoy the season - I am sure we will still be in the EPL this time next year!!

Sky generation I'm afraid. Moyes front runner in sack race. Don't give the idiots a platform

Unless a really good manager is available with lots of experience we should stick with Malky and his players

Di Matteo.

what the man who played 11 in the box against Barcelona?

care to explain where the tactics are different?

Unless a really good manager is available with lots of experience we should stick with Malky and his players

Di Matteo.

what the man who played 11 in the box against Barcelona?

care to explain where the tactics are different?

Because he understands the concept of attacking far better than Malky does. He knew that he needed a certain type player to go from defensive ----> attacking in the blink of an eye and snatch results and they did that. We don't do that. Malky picks players for their high energy like Cowie and Smith who is for some reason one of his favourites.

Di Matteo did it at West Brom and had them counter attacking brilliantly and opening teams up. They finished 11th in their first season so it obviously worked. We won't finish 11th. He implemented the same style at Chelsea and it worked again so he obviously knows how to implement this system to get the results and to defend but not only defend, attack.

Whilst both park the bus, Malky parks the bus and hopes for a set piece or odd chance to win it. Di Matteo parks the bus still puts on a threatening attacking outlet to counter teams. Theres the difference. Now if Malky can wise up and adapt his game so that he understands how to go from defence ---> attack better and getting more threatening players involved then he might just hang to his job.

Fickle fxckers some fans,i question if their fans at all some of the crap that comes out of their mouths.

Malkys cv in the op speaks for itself,a new team needs time to adjust to life in the premier and we've had a decent start against top opposition.City will get better as the season progresses but people have to realise we won't be winning like we did in the championship,the premier is a different ball game altogether.