not football.

But today the government are going to have a vote or looking to following France and Belgium, at banning the muslims covering there faces.
My self I think it should have been done long ago as is takes the piss.

Correct. Ban the burka!

Muslims would riot in this country if it did happen though. Their used to having their own way for far too long.

Got to say Murphy I agree with u 100%.
Im sick to death of us being taken the pis out of.
Last year a cheeky c**t put a pasty in a micro for 15 secinds and tried to charge me a extra 30p for electric ffs.
And was called white trash because I got in to a disagreement in a kebab hous because I asked for fresh cut meat rather then the shit they had in the put for hours.
If we walked in to a shop with our face coverd we would be arrested for sure.

But today the government are going to have a vote or looking to following France and Belgium, at banning the muslims covering there faces.
My self I think it should have been done long ago as is takes the piss.

You're spot on with this one Paul. I'm all for people coming over here and rebuilding their lives, but if you go over there, you have to stick to their ways of life. It should be the same here.

I agree to a point that the complete covering of the face should be banned especially in airports, banks etc. for security reasons. The scarves that cover the hair but you can still see the face are fine. Apologies but I don't know the actual names for these scarves.

Altough it does pose an interesting question. We all talk about this being free country so shouldn't people be allowed to wear what they want? I'm not saying I agree with this sentiment but it gives something to think about and shows the issue isn't a simple black and white case.

The majority here don't even like us but they sure do like the quality of life. And the extremists - I'd melt the filthy bastards down into candles and use their greasy beards for the wicks. Happy Thursday.

I agree with SL69. Ban the Burka. If we walk down the road with a balaclava on, I'm sure the OB would have a word.

Thing is they come here over take an area and then dictate to what they want ie in schools taxis and so on.
They can get away with almost what they want and know it.
As for us we must tred carefully about what we say.
Is it to late for this country now? I think so.
And this vote will more then likely be thrown out, , because the do good brigade will protest on the muslims behalf.
Now them I would f*cking hang because they are turning there back on there own culture and history.

I think France only banned it in educational facilities as it was deemed religious dress and their schools are non denomination.

It's also a dress code that is forced upon the women by their partners so you will probably get a lot of agreement from most Muslims.

you cant do that in this country

France is a wholly secular state they have separated religion from state. Though you have a constitutional right to religion in France they are under no obligation to provide for or respect your religious beliefs.

All government agencies such as schools are secular and do not allow any religious clothing, jewellery or objects.

In Britain, however much people like to think we are secular country we are not we have a state religion the Church of England, the Queen is the defender of the faith we have religious voices in our government (Bishops in the House of Lords).
If you want to go down the route of banning Islamic traditions (whether you agree with them or not is not the issue) you have to eradicate the influence religion has on our government and country. If we ban garments from one religion we should ban them for all religion and the only way to do that is to take the title of defender of the faith from the queen, throw out the Bishops from the house of lords and convert the church of england to just another religion rather than the state religion.

If you cant do that you are taking away the rights of religion to a particular group of people and thats against the law

Can't f*cking stand them cunts living in grangtown with them so I see them every f*cking day.
They walk around thinking they run the place with their 6 or 7 kids with them

Can't f*cking stand them cunts living in grangtown with them so I see them every f*cking day.
They walk around thinking they run the place with their 6 or 7 kids with them

well since theyve been in Cardiff since the 18th century maybe they do

Ban the Burka, fed up of us tip toeing around the people wearing them just in case we get branded racist when we're not.

The burka is a dangerous thing, anybody could be under there?

Give the people wearing Burka's an ultimatum, take it off or f**k off.

BAN THE BURKA

also just going to throw it out there if your going to ban the burka ban all face coverings just to be on the safe side anything that can cover the whole face or part of the face balaclavas, motorcycle helmets, hats and cp company goggle jackets

or are we just going to concentrate on burkas?

also just going to throw it out there if your going to ban the burka ban all face coverings just to be on the safe side anything that can cover the whole face or part of the face balaclavas, motorcycle helmets, hats and cp company goggle jackets

or are we just going to concentrate on burkas?

Motorcycle helmets? surly their for safety reasons?

also just going to throw it out there if your going to ban the burka ban all face coverings just to be on the safe side anything that can cover the whole face or part of the face balaclavas, motorcycle helmets, hats and cp company goggle jackets

or are we just going to concentrate on burkas?

Would an Airport allow me through passport control wearing a full face bike helmet ? Nah don't think so

also just going to throw it out there if your going to ban the burka ban all face coverings just to be on the safe side anything that can cover the whole face or part of the face balaclavas, motorcycle helmets, hats and cp company goggle jackets

or are we just going to concentrate on burkas?

Motorcycle helmets? surly their for safety reasons?

you can cover your whole face

you can commit a crime in it

these are the reasons why people want the burka banned

or is it ok for someone in a motorcycle helmet to commit a crime and not someone in a burka? different rules I suppose

If you need a motorcycle helmet buy an open faced one or ban motorcycles we want to keep the public safe now dont we?
this is why we are banning the burka the safety of the general public

also just going to throw it out there if your going to ban the burka ban all face coverings just to be on the safe side anything that can cover the whole face or part of the face balaclavas, motorcycle helmets, hats and cp company goggle jackets

or are we just going to concentrate on burkas?

Motorcycle helmets? surly their for safety reasons?

you can cover your whole face

you can commit a crime in it

these are the reasons why people want the burka banned

or is it ok for someone in a motorcycle helmet to commit a crime and not someone in a burka? different rules I suppose

If you need a motorcycle helmet buy an open faced one or ban motorcycles we want to keep the public safe now dont we?
this is why we are banning the burka the safety of the general public

Open face Have you ever driven a bike ? A full face is a lot more safer , ban the burka

also just going to throw it out there if your going to ban the burka ban all face coverings just to be on the safe side anything that can cover the whole face or part of the face balaclavas, motorcycle helmets, hats and cp company goggle jackets

or are we just going to concentrate on burkas?

Would an Airport allow me through passport control wearing a full face bike helmet ? Nah don't think so

they dont with burkas either

but thats not what people are saying they seem to be talking about common criminality

also just going to throw it out there if your going to ban the burka ban all face coverings just to be on the safe side anything that can cover the whole face or part of the face balaclavas, motorcycle helmets, hats and cp company goggle jackets

or are we just going to concentrate on burkas?

Motorcycle helmets? surly their for safety reasons?

you can cover your whole face

you can commit a crime in it

these are the reasons why people want the burka banned

or is it ok for someone in a motorcycle helmet to commit a crime and not someone in a burka? different rules I suppose

If you need a motorcycle helmet buy an open faced one or ban motorcycles we want to keep the public safe now dont we?
this is why we are banning the burka the safety of the general public

Open face Have you ever driven a bike ? A full face is a lot more safer , ban the burka

no havent not concerned with your safety im more concerned with the risk you pose by wearing a motorcycle helmet you may commit a crime

Motorcycle helmets are too heavy for criminal activity.

Much prefer a pair of tights of the head. Simple but effective.

you cant do that in this country

France is a wholly secular state they have separated religion from state. Though you have a constitutional right to religion in France they are under no obligation to provide for or respect your religious beliefs.

All government agencies such as schools are secular and do not allow any religious clothing, jewellery or objects.

In Britain, however much people like to think we are secular country we are not we have a state religion the Church of England, the Queen is the defender of the faith we have religious voices in our government (Bishops in the House of Lords).
If you want to go down the route of banning Islamic traditions (whether you agree with them or not is not the issue) you have to eradicate the influence religion has on our government and country. If we ban garments from one religion we should ban them for all religion and the only way to do that is to take the title of defender of the faith from the queen, throw out the Bishops from the house of lords and convert the church of england to just another religion rather than the state religion.

If you cant do that you are taking away the rights of religion to a particular group of people and thats against the law

There is no state religion in Wales. The Church of England was disestablished here in 1921, when Lloyd George was PM. Unlike England and Scotland, Wales is a secular country. We do have denominational schools, but they are under local authority control, (apart from private schools, like Howells etc.).All religions, and none, are equal here. The head of the Anglican Church in Wales is Barry Morgan, not the Queen. No Welsh bishops sit in the House of Lords.

In theory, at least, the Welsh government could ban the face covering that Muslim women wear, along with any other religious symbols in public paces. Like in France, and even Turkey.

Truth is the burka ahould not be allowed in public, u cant walk in to a petrol station with a motor bike helmet and deff with a balaclava yhe muslims are just not willing to integrate with use and wont there own way of life.
So ok they dhould be allowed in there own residence to do so, however when In public places should live by the same rule as set by the country they live.
There are young and old up and down this country having to leave the place they have lived for many years because of this bed room tax! All the muslims snd other ethnic familys do is say its a room to worship and they get away with it.
You think we could get away saying that?.

you cant do that in this country

France is a wholly secular state they have separated religion from state. Though you have a constitutional right to religion in France they are under no obligation to provide for or respect your religious beliefs.

All government agencies such as schools are secular and do not allow any religious clothing, jewellery or objects.

In Britain, however much people like to think we are secular country we are not we have a state religion the Church of England, the Queen is the defender of the faith we have religious voices in our government (Bishops in the House of Lords).
If you want to go down the route of banning Islamic traditions (whether you agree with them or not is not the issue) you have to eradicate the influence religion has on our government and country. If we ban garments from one religion we should ban them for all religion and the only way to do that is to take the title of defender of the faith from the queen, throw out the Bishops from the house of lords and convert the church of england to just another religion rather than the state religion.

If you cant do that you are taking away the rights of religion to a particular group of people and thats against the law

There is no state religion in Wales. The Church of England was disestablished here in 1921, when Lloyd George was PM. Unlike England and Scotland, Wales is a secular country. We do have denominational schools, but they are under local authority control, (apart from private schools, like Howells etc.).All religions, and none, are equal here. The head of the Anglican Church in Wales is Barry Morgan, not the Queen. No Welsh bishops sit in the House of Lords.

In theory, at least, the Welsh government could ban the face covering that Muslim women wear, along with any other religious symbols in public paces. Like in France, and even Turkey.

Religion is not a devolved issue

Lets face it religion is a dieing thing in this country, we have moved on from it and thats why u see so many empty run down churches and temple's in this country.
All muslim states are or have poor population and there for turn to religion for hope.
We in this country were the same for a very long time.
When I was young sunday school was the bollocks, and most churches rang there bells and were full, shops were shut andit was a day to relax.
We have food money and poverty is not an issue.
However in most muslim states there is poverty or poor leadership there for they turn to religion and there faith in it for hope.

Muslims religion is were we were over a hundred years ago when europe was poor and the normal family lived of scraps and had very little.
Religion is hope for when u are down.that is all.
The wrst has moved on from religion and money is now the main motivation for most.

Ban it.
They can wear it freely in asia,why not go back there

Lets face it religion is a dieing thing in this country, we have moved on from it and thats why u see so many empty run down churches and temple's in this country.
All muslim states are or have poor population and there for turn to religion for hope.
We in this country were the same for a very long time.
When I was young sunday school was the bollocks, and most churches rang there bells and were full, shops were shut andit was a day to relax.
We have food money and poverty is not an issue.
However in most muslim states there is poverty or poor leadership there for they turn to religion and there faith in it for hope.

thats got nothing to do with your original argument

you cant do that in this country

France is a wholly secular state they have separated religion from state. Though you have a constitutional right to religion in France they are under no obligation to provide for or respect your religious beliefs.

All government agencies such as schools are secular and do not allow any religious clothing, jewellery or objects.

In Britain, however much people like to think we are secular country we are not we have a state religion the Church of England, the Queen is the defender of the faith we have religious voices in our government (Bishops in the House of Lords).
If you want to go down the route of banning Islamic traditions (whether you agree with them or not is not the issue) you have to eradicate the influence religion has on our government and country. If we ban garments from one religion we should ban them for all religion and the only way to do that is to take the title of defender of the faith from the queen, throw out the Bishops from the house of lords and convert the church of england to just another religion rather than the state religion.

If you cant do that you are taking away the rights of religion to a particular group of people and thats against the law

There is no state religion in Wales. The Church of England was disestablished here in 1921, when Lloyd George was PM. Unlike England and Scotland, Wales is a secular country. We do have denominational schools, but they are under local authority control, (apart from private schools, like Howells etc.).All religions, and none, are equal here. The head of the Anglican Church in Wales is Barry Morgan, not the Queen. No Welsh bishops sit in the House of Lords.

In theory, at least, the Welsh government could ban the face covering that Muslim women wear, along with any other religious symbols in public paces. Like in France, and even Turkey.

Religion is not a devolved issue

Devolved? Nothing to do with devolution. There is no state church in Wales. This goes back to 1921. If you don't believe me, check it up. Wales did not come into existence in 1997. Ask any Anglican vicar in Wales, if you don't believe me. Or look at the notice board on any Anglican church. It says Church in Wales, not Church of England. There is no established church/religion in Wales. Wales is secular.