Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:30 pm
Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:20 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Leeds fans were allowed all over Wolverhampton town centre, 3pm on a Saturday. They both have a big history of violence.
Yet weve been banned from there and our next game there, the coaches have to meet the Police and not allowed in for a drink, 2pm kick off and changed to a Sunday
Local News
Wolverhampton
February 11, 2013
Streets are shut as Wolves and Leeds fans clash
Two city centre streets were shut off by police after Wolves and Leeds fans clashed following Saturday’s match at Molineux.
They fought outside the Hogshead pub in Stafford Street after the 2-2 draw, while fans also battled in Molineux Street before kick-off. Stafford Street and Broad Street were shut.
Six men, aged 18, 20, 22, 39, 45 and 48, were arrested before and during the game for offences, including breach of bail and affray.
Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:26 pm
Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:27 pm
Leytonstoneblue wrote:Forever Blue wrote: Leeds fans were allowed all over Wolverhampton town centre, 3pm on a Saturday. They both have a big history of violence.
Yet weve been banned from there and our next game there, the coaches have to meet the Police and not allowed in for a drink, 2pm kick off and changed to a Sunday
Local News
Wolverhampton
February 11, 2013
Streets are shut as Wolves and Leeds fans clash
Two city centre streets were shut off by police after Wolves and Leeds fans clashed following Saturday’s match at Molineux.
They fought outside the Hogshead pub in Stafford Street after the 2-2 draw, while fans also battled in Molineux Street before kick-off. Stafford Street and Broad Street were shut.
Six men, aged 18, 20, 22, 39, 45 and 48, were arrested before and during the game for offences, including breach of bail and affray.
Why have Wolves got this illogical fear of us? They surely, must have much more of a history with Leeds and a host of other clubs, yet we have had one incident of any note in 2003 outside the ground and the incident inside the ground that was instigated by the WMP with no one charged. Then the outright banning by Moxley and restrictions ever since including those imposed this Sunday. I think it's bogey man syndrome, an irrational fear
Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:01 pm
Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:09 pm
vince.alm wrote:You are like a blinking old record Annis!!! you are leaving out some facts! until the weekend there has been no recent history of trouble between Wolves and Leeds. The first two seasons we played them after being promoted back to this level one word Carnage!! policing at both those games at best very poor. West brom Wolves games have been bubbles in recent years.
West midlands police are trying to give supporters the benefit of the doubt now as been shown in Birmingham last two seasons.
Leeds turning up unannounced have done us no favors at all I would guess, although our communication remains positive. i would guess Leeds will not get the same privaliges next time they visit there.
We were banned by a totally different regime to the one that is in place now. We need to go there and behave like we have at Bristol and millwall in recent years then the fixture will end up as a 3 o clock with no restrictions at all.
They have asked for coaches to go to to an RV point just so they can guarantee us safe passage to the ground. Is that really a restriction? Ok early kick off on the Sunday is a restriction but no where near as bad as previous years
You are getting like the police the police moan about us being drunk and smoking in the toilet instead of worrying about cardiff supporters smashing the town up and looking for fights. You and Carl are banging on about having an escort in by the police where we use to moan about being banned, and bubbled. If you don't want to engage with the police go in a car and make your own way you don't have to go on a coach
Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:20 pm
Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:25 pm
sleepers wrote:vince.alm wrote:You are like a blinking old record Annis!!! you are leaving out some facts! until the weekend there has been no recent history of trouble between Wolves and Leeds. The first two seasons we played them after being promoted back to this level one word Carnage!! policing at both those games at best very poor. West brom Wolves games have been bubbles in recent years.
West midlands police are trying to give supporters the benefit of the doubt now as been shown in Birmingham last two seasons.
Leeds turning up unannounced have done us no favors at all I would guess, although our communication remains positive. i would guess Leeds will not get the same privaliges next time they visit there.
We were banned by a totally different regime to the one that is in place now. We need to go there and behave like we have at Bristol and millwall in recent years then the fixture will end up as a 3 o clock with no restrictions at all.
They have asked for coaches to go to to an RV point just so they can guarantee us safe passage to the ground. Is that really a restriction? Ok early kick off on the Sunday is a restriction but no where near as bad as previous years
You are getting like the police the police moan about us being drunk and smoking in the toilet instead of worrying about cardiff supporters smashing the town up and looking for fights. You and Carl are banging on about having an escort in by the police where we use to moan about being banned, and bubbled. If you don't want to engage with the police go in a car and make your own way you don't have to go on a coach
no trouble with leeds fans? they had a fan run on a pitch an assault a player that in it self speaks volumes
city voted family club of the year yet still get restrictions,an if you realy believe the police are do it for the saftey of the fans,why wasnt leeds or wba given these restrictions
Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:26 pm
vince.alm wrote:You are like a blinking old record Annis!!! you are leaving out some facts! until the weekend there has been no recent history of trouble between Wolves and Leeds. The first two seasons we played them after being promoted back to this level one word Carnage!! policing at both those games at best very poor. West brom Wolves games have been bubbles in recent years.
West midlands police are trying to give supporters the benefit of the doubt now as been shown in Birmingham last two seasons.
Leeds turning up unannounced have done us no favors at all I would guess, although our communication remains positive. i would guess Leeds will not get the same privaliges next time they visit there.
We were banned by a totally different regime to the one that is in place now. We need to go there and behave like we have at Bristol and millwall in recent years then the fixture will end up as a 3 o clock with no restrictions at all.
They have asked for coaches to go to to an RV point just so they can guarantee us safe passage to the ground. Is that really a restriction? Ok early kick off on the Sunday is a restriction but no where near as bad as previous years
You are getting like the police the police moan about us being drunk and smoking in the toilet instead of worrying about cardiff supporters smashing the town up and looking for fights. You and Carl are banging on about having an escort in by the police where we use to moan about being banned, and bubbled. If you don't want to engage with the police go in a car and make your own way you don't have to go on a coach
Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:05 pm
vince.alm wrote:You are like a blinking old record Annis!!! you are leaving out some facts! until the weekend there has been no recent history of trouble between Wolves and Leeds. The first two seasons we played them after being promoted back to this level one word Carnage!! policing at both those games at best very poor. West brom Wolves games have been bubbles in recent years.
West midlands police are trying to give supporters the benefit of the doubt now as been shown in Birmingham last two seasons.
Leeds turning up unannounced have done us no favors at all I would guess, although our communication remains positive. i would guess Leeds will not get the same privaliges next time they visit there.
We were banned by a totally different regime to the one that is in place now. We need to go there and behave like we have at Bristol and millwall in recent years then the fixture will end up as a 3 o clock with no restrictions at all.
They have asked for coaches to go to to an RV point just so they can guarantee us safe passage to the ground. Is that really a restriction? Ok early kick off on the Sunday is a restriction but no where near as bad as previous years
You are getting like the police the police moan about us being drunk and smoking in the toilet instead of worrying about cardiff supporters smashing the town up and looking for fights. You and Carl are banging on about having an escort in by the police where we use to moan about being banned, and bubbled. If you don't want to engage with the police go in a car and make your own way you don't have to go on a coach
Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:10 am
Leytonstoneblue wrote:vince.alm wrote:You are like a blinking old record Annis!!! you are leaving out some facts! until the weekend there has been no recent history of trouble between Wolves and Leeds. The first two seasons we played them after being promoted back to this level one word Carnage!! policing at both those games at best very poor. West brom Wolves games have been bubbles in recent years.
West midlands police are trying to give supporters the benefit of the doubt now as been shown in Birmingham last two seasons.
Leeds turning up unannounced have done us no favors at all I would guess, although our communication remains positive. i would guess Leeds will not get the same privaliges next time they visit there.
We were banned by a totally different regime to the one that is in place now. We need to go there and behave like we have at Bristol and millwall in recent years then the fixture will end up as a 3 o clock with no restrictions at all.
They have asked for coaches to go to to an RV point just so they can guarantee us safe passage to the ground. Is that really a restriction? Ok early kick off on the Sunday is a restriction but no where near as bad as previous years
You are getting like the police the police moan about us being drunk and smoking in the toilet instead of worrying about cardiff supporters smashing the town up and looking for fights. You and Carl are banging on about having an escort in by the police where we use to moan about being banned, and bubbled. If you don't want to engage with the police go in a car and make your own way you don't have to go on a coach
Come on Vincent you have to agree that given the general good behavior of Cardiff fans over the last few years, then there is no logical reason why this particular games needs any restrictions. It is just the powers that be exercising their authority a little to show who's boss.
Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:38 am
Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:50 am
Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:44 am
BigGwynram wrote:I think people have short memories, it wasn't that long ago we had a total ban at Wolves. We have made huge strides to get restrictions lifted and things are much better, but they are waiting for us to f**k up, and if we do just watch what happens next year in the Prem, restricted numbers, bubbles etc. they just wont have it.
I love being a Cardiff fan, I am proud of being a Cardiff fan, I and others have worked hard for years to try and get fair play for our fans, but it is a two way street. We cannot deny that we will always have a let's say slightly mad element among us, it's just the way it is, for f**k sake have a Friday night out in Aberdare , Ponty or Merthyr and you see what I mean.
It don't mean they are bad, just need an occasional arm around their shoulder and a few wise words so they don't f**k it up for the rest of us. There are certain games where we need restrictions, and if you think that isn't the case then you are sadly deluded. I can't believe they let us off the leash in Bristol, they did and we behaved, but it could have been so different.
It only takes another Chelsea to pit us back under the cosh, we all have a responsibility, and making out how much fun it was riding roughshod in the old days may seem like fun, but it wasn't fun if it was your pub trashed or your shop looted.
Things have moved on, it's a pity some people seem as if they can't.