Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:54 pm
Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:55 pm
Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:57 pm
paulh_85 wrote:they just issue more shares, so that each share in issue effectively becomes worth less.
Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:27 pm
Gavlar wrote:paulh_85 wrote:they just issue more shares, so that each share in issue effectively becomes worth less.
So the other shareholders effectively lose out?? But maybe only short term because the debt free status of the club drives the prices back up???
Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:49 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Gavlar wrote:paulh_85 wrote:they just issue more shares, so that each share in issue effectively becomes worth less.
So the other shareholders effectively lose out?? But maybe only short term because the debt free status of the club drives the prices back up???
For this to happen tan needs to buy all the other shares.
From my understanding if tan raises his share capacity to 51% then he can force all other shareholders to sell their shares. This I believe he will do as it will making the swooping of debt to equity a lot easier.
Personally I feel he wants Sam's share and is trying to include them in the Langston deal. I could be off the mark but that would be a good move for him. That would take him close to the 51% and buying some other shares would then take him over that mark. That would result him in making a substantial saving buying everyone eles share.
Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:52 pm
Gavlar wrote:paulh_85 wrote:they just issue more shares, so that each share in issue effectively becomes worth less.
So the other shareholders effectively lose out?? But maybe only short term because the debt free status of the club drives the prices back up???
Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:55 pm
Sneggyblubird wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Gavlar wrote:paulh_85 wrote:they just issue more shares, so that each share in issue effectively becomes worth less.
So the other shareholders effectively lose out?? But maybe only short term because the debt free status of the club drives the prices back up???
For this to happen tan needs to buy all the other shares.
From my understanding if tan raises his share capacity to 51% then he can force all other shareholders to sell their shares. This I believe he will do as it will making the swooping of debt to equity a lot easier.
Personally I feel he wants Sam's share and is trying to include them in the Langston deal. I could be off the mark but that would be a good move for him. That would take him close to the 51% and buying some other shares would then take him over that mark. That would result him in making a substantial saving buying everyone eles share.
Yea,thats the gist of it I think.
Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:56 pm
since62 wrote:Gavlar wrote:paulh_85 wrote:they just issue more shares, so that each share in issue effectively becomes worth less.
So the other shareholders effectively lose out?? But maybe only short term because the debt free status of the club drives the prices back up???
There are two parts to share capital
Authorised - the total amount that can be issued without going back to the shareholders for permission to issue new shares
Issued - the amount of shares actually issued to date out of the total allowed.
At a previous EGM the shareholders approved a big increase in the authorised share capital , giving lots of "headroom" to issue new shares as and when the board saw fit.
From memory (I will have to look up the old paperwork to confirm) however , there was only enough increase to allow just under £40m of new shares to be issued and VT`s debt is already over that amount so a new EGM will have to be called to increase the amount further to allow all of VT`s debt to be converted into shares.
Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:03 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:since62 wrote:Gavlar wrote:paulh_85 wrote:they just issue more shares, so that each share in issue effectively becomes worth less.
So the other shareholders effectively lose out?? But maybe only short term because the debt free status of the club drives the prices back up???
There are two parts to share capital
Authorised - the total amount that can be issued without going back to the shareholders for permission to issue new shares
Issued - the amount of shares actually issued to date out of the total allowed.
At a previous EGM the shareholders approved a big increase in the authorised share capital , giving lots of "headroom" to issue new shares as and when the board saw fit.
From memory (I will have to look up the old paperwork to confirm) however , there was only enough increase to allow just under £40m of new shares to be issued and VT`s debt is already over that amount so a new EGM will have to be called to increase the amount further to allow all of VT`s debt to be converted into shares.
If tan brought those shares with his outstanding debt would that take him to 51% or over?