Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:04 pm
Berwyn wrote:DamnRightIveGotTheBlues wrote:Berwyn wrote:I find it really crazy that we now live in a society where you can basically throw all sorts of hurtful abuse at someone with as many ****'s and *****'s as you like, as long as you don't mention their skin colour or where they are from.
I find that really crazy too.
Probably because its completely not true...
I saw this article written by none other than Jeremy Clarkson, who admittedly is a complete knob, but did show a valid point that was hard to argue against.
He showed copies of posts on Twitter. He'd had a go at some celeb or something which resulted in massive amounts of posts slagging him off in return. Knowing him it was probably deserved. But he listed everything that was said about him and this slagging session was well known about on Twitter. Yet no one at all said anything about the people posting these vile comments about the lanky git. He then compared that to instances of the Twitter police arresting individuals for posting things that were extremely mild in comparison. The only difference being that they mentioned skin colour or where the person they were having a go at was from.
Although I don't like the guy, I found it very difficult to disagree with.
Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:05 pm
DamnRightIveGotTheBlues wrote:Berwyn wrote:DamnRightIveGotTheBlues wrote:Berwyn wrote:I find it really crazy that we now live in a society where you can basically throw all sorts of hurtful abuse at someone with as many ****'s and *****'s as you like, as long as you don't mention their skin colour or where they are from.
I find that really crazy too.
Probably because its completely not true...
I saw this article written by none other than Jeremy Clarkson, who admittedly is a complete knob, but did show a valid point that was hard to argue against.
He showed copies of posts on Twitter. He'd had a go at some celeb or something which resulted in massive amounts of posts slagging him off in return. Knowing him it was probably deserved. But he listed everything that was said about him and this slagging session was well known about on Twitter. Yet no one at all said anything about the people posting these vile comments about the lanky git. He then compared that to instances of the Twitter police arresting individuals for posting things that were extremely mild in comparison. The only difference being that they mentioned skin colour or where the person they were having a go at was from.
Although I don't like the guy, I found it very difficult to disagree with.
If I call you a dick, it is because you have done something for me to form the opinion that you are a dick.
If you insult someone based on race, something that you cannot help, then that is unfair and you are prejudice.
There is such a huge difference that I feel patronising pointing it out.
Judge people on thier character. It is not fair to insult someone purely based on a background that they did not choose. That goes for real life as well as football.
Ferdinand made fun of John Terry shagging Bridge's missus, because Terry chose to shag Bridge's missus.
Terry mentioned Ferdinand's race and was rightfully punished. Just not harshly enough.
Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:50 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:So exactly why has the FA got it right when a court of Law found him innocent
Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:57 am
JBCCFC1927 wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:So exactly why has the FA got it right when a court of Law found him innocent
Because in a court of law proof is needed beyond reasonable doubt.
In an FA hearing they can charge you on the balance of probabilities. i.e. the Suarez case.
Therefore, the panel they hire during the hearing believe Terry used racial language when looking at the video so they convicted him on the balance of probabilities.
If you believe it should just go on the trial then all matters should and Suarez should be cleared and taken to court where he would be cleared also due to lack of evidence.
Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:21 am
Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:41 am
Nuclearblue wrote:African bluebird I don't know who you think you are calling thick as shit just because they hold a different view point I was going to reply differently but will hold council. Just very big of you behind your keypad
Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:50 pm
Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:51 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Pity Ferdinand didn't have a thicker skin like what you are saying. But if there is not enough evidence Terry should not of been charged full stop. But I do find it funny you can be abusive and then say have a thicker skin but one wrong comment from me would have you running to the mods and then the authoroties
Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:00 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:DamnRightIveGotTheBlues wrote:Berwyn wrote:DamnRightIveGotTheBlues wrote:Berwyn wrote:I find it really crazy that we now live in a society where you can basically throw all sorts of hurtful abuse at someone with as many ****'s and *****'s as you like, as long as you don't mention their skin colour or where they are from.
I find that really crazy too.
Probably because its completely not true...
I saw this article written by none other than Jeremy Clarkson, who admittedly is a complete knob, but did show a valid point that was hard to argue against.
He showed copies of posts on Twitter. He'd had a go at some celeb or something which resulted in massive amounts of posts slagging him off in return. Knowing him it was probably deserved. But he listed everything that was said about him and this slagging session was well known about on Twitter. Yet no one at all said anything about the people posting these vile comments about the lanky git. He then compared that to instances of the Twitter police arresting individuals for posting things that were extremely mild in comparison. The only difference being that they mentioned skin colour or where the person they were having a go at was from.
Although I don't like the guy, I found it very difficult to disagree with.
If I call you a dick, it is because you have done something for me to form the opinion that you are a dick.
If you insult someone based on race, something that you cannot help, then that is unfair and you are prejudice.
There is such a huge difference that I feel patronising pointing it out.
Judge people on thier character. It is not fair to insult someone purely based on a background that they did not choose. That goes for real life as well as football.
Ferdinand made fun of John Terry shagging Bridge's missus, because Terry chose to shag Bridge's missus.
Terry mentioned Ferdinand's race and was rightfully punished. Just not harshly enough.
So exactly why has the FA got it right when a court of Law found him innocent