9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out

Absolute nonsense.

First of all it was building 7, not 47. And many of your quotes or sayings are straight from the propaganda like documentaries, you say you have spent hours researching both sides of the coin. Well I'll tell you that isn't even enough to scratch the surface.

I've researched it for years and read every page of the official report. You seem to have watched the documentaries and made your mind up.

I'm not going to bore you all with my findings from my research as I don't have the finger power or the desire to write a thousand page essay.

I will however tell you my opinion.

It was not an inside job, but neither is the official report accurate. It is my personal opinion that this attack was ALLOWED to take place. There were many benefits to that and was the pretext for a war which brought USA incredible financial gain aswell as the passing of legislation to move towards a CCTV state.

Attacks on its own people to gather support for war isn't a new thing with the USA. I direct you to "operation northwoods" document...

f**k off out of my thread adam, you always spoil the poxy things you diseased pissflap

Wish people would make their mind up, I'm angry man now then am I?

My word

If you want your thread full of nonsense conjecture spans balony then feel free. Controlled demolition ffs. They don't even know what number wtc went down. Number 47 ffs

Absolute nonsense.

First of all it was building 7, not 47. And many of your quotes or sayings are straight from the propaganda like documentaries, you say you have spent hours researching both sides of the coin. Well I'll tell you that isn't even enough to scratch the surface.

I've researched it for years and read every page of the official report. You seem to have watched the documentaries and made your mind up.

I'm not going to bore you all with my findings from my research as I don't have the finger power or the desire to write a thousand page essay.

I will however tell you my opinion.

It was not an inside job, but neither is the official report accurate. It is my personal opinion that this attack was ALLOWED to take place. There were many benefits to that and was the pretext for a war which brought USA incredible financial gain aswell as the passing of legislation to move towards a CCTV state.

Attacks on its own people to gather support for war isn't a new thing with the USA. I direct you to "operation northwoods" document...

f**k off out of my thread adam, you always spoil the poxy things you diseased pissflap

Wish people would make their mind up, I'm angry man now then am I?

My word

If you want your thread full of nonsense conjecture spans balony then feel free. Controlled demolition ffs. They don't even know what number wtc went down. Number 47 ffs

You just another anonymous poster nobody knows then

Correct. I'd be surprised if anyone on here knows me.

There was a documentary on about the Pentagon plane and that is was a setup, the plane was small and full of explosives etc etc. My mate who works in GE in Nantgarw said he'd seen it and the Expert was saying that the there was no way the aircraft was a 757. He said the next shot after the expert interview showed the disaster scene and a plate sticking out of the ground that was a part from an RB211 engine that sits on the wing of most 757 not your average Cessna with Lee Harvey Oswald at the controls!

For fucks sake. Did you read that missive before you bunged it up? This is not CCMB whereby the wide eyed rabbits (lefties) stare in awe at such knowledge. Where do I start?

"The plane was small and full of explosives", a documentary on the Pentagon, an admin building, so a set up?

"My mate" yeh OK, GE General Electric perhaps? Don't know what you're saying here or where or what Nantgarw is. Agree on the plane id though, it wasn't a 757 first time I've seen this mentioned, it was supposedly a 737 made by Boeing. Boeing use Pratt and Whitney engines in the US not Rolls Royce so kills the RB211 off. As an aside I'd look up what an RB211 engine is and power outputs, etc. As for the Cessna comment, I'm assuming you think the Cessna only make small little four or five seater planes? They don't they make much bigger ones which a joy to fly to be honest, seat up to 200 soles I believe and have now sorted the DB series.

Stop listening to the lefty bullshit, anyone with basic coordination can fly a plane, if you can drive a car competently then you can fly a plane. Flying a plane into a building does however require a left wing orientated mindset, no fecking sane person would it but hey ho, tooth fairies, god, allah, big brother, etc, etc etc.

Firstly, GE is General Electric, Nantgarw is a town just outside of Cardiff where there is a large engine overall plant.... My mate does work there as a fitter and has done for about twenty years. You can see it's a 757 from the CCTV outage and the fact that the designated flight was a 757. Cessna was a sarcastic comment.... My god you're a little dull.. A 757 can take multiple configurations of engines...

As for the engine type read - http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forum ... ain/51696/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

To quote:

"I live in Connecticut, home of Pratt & Whitney, and I won't get into an us vs. them discussion.
The fact is, both engines have the same reliability. It comes down to cost and service agreements.
I'd say folks are proud to see the Pratt Eagle on the engines! Although RR has outsold the PW2000 overall, some of the largest 757 operators -- Delta, United and Northwest -- are P&W customers. American operates the RB211."

It was American Airlines Flight 77 that hit the Pentagon....

Also read this:
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/co ... 0265.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

To quote my mate "I know what the part is because I've stripped hundreds of them"

Change your name to Wally the Wombat...

Ah you got me there Einstein, I'd had a few when I posted that up and appears I got a tad confused myself

I must remember not to switch the laptop on after I've been to local!!

Correct. I'd be surprised if anyone on here knows me.

I agree

Correct. I'd be surprised if anyone on here knows me.

I agree

So what the hell you talking about then you card

Correct. I'd be surprised if anyone on here knows me.

I agree

So what the hell you talking about then you card

Your an anonymous troll thats all i ment, whats a card got to do with anything

Correct. I'd be surprised if anyone on here knows me.

I agree

So what the hell you talking about then you card

Your an anonymous troll thats all i ment, whats a card got to do with anything

So I'm not angry man anymore?

Correct. I'd be surprised if anyone on here knows me.

I agree

So what the hell you talking about then you card

Your an anonymous troll thats all i ment, whats a card got to do with anything

So I'm not angry man anymore?

You can be anyone as a troll that nobody knows whos typing the words but claims to be a fan, you should know
Thats why i always be myself, it feels better.

A troll types inflammatory things to get a reaction.

Point out where I have ever done that? Otherwise you are talking rubbish.

You still seem confused by ,y identity, you have changed your mind a few times in this thread alone.

I'll look forward to you backing up your wild claims of my purpose on this board....

Why did it happen ? Well i have it on good authority that someone left the landing light on on the 65th floor
I thank you for your indulgence

Absolute nonsense.

First of all it was building 7, not 47. And many of your quotes or sayings are straight from the propaganda like documentaries, you say you have spent hours researching both sides of the coin. Well I'll tell you that isn't even enough to scratch the surface.

I've researched it for years and read every page of the official report. You seem to have watched the documentaries and made your mind up.

I'm not going to bore you all with my findings from my research as I don't have the finger power or the desire to write a thousand page essay.

I will however tell you my opinion.

It was not an inside job, but neither is the official report accurate. It is my personal opinion that this attack was ALLOWED to take place. There were many benefits to that and was the pretext for a war which brought USA incredible financial gain aswell as the passing of legislation to move towards a CCTV state.

Attacks on its own people to gather support for war isn't a new thing with the USA. I direct you to "operation northwoods" document...

f**k off out of my thread adam, you always spoil the poxy things you diseased pissflap

Wish people would make their mind up, I'm angry man now then am I?

My word

If you want your thread full of nonsense conjecture spans balony then feel free. Controlled demolition ffs. They don't even know what number wtc went down. Number 47 ffs

As a slight aside, a couple of years back probably around 2006/7, I was on a course on Progressive collapse and the use of BS5950 and the new Eurocode, essentially explaining the differences/similarities between the two. I'm not a Structural Engineer but as a Civil Engineer I can obviously design structures and although I haven't for a very long time, I do sometimes check contractor designs. Anyway, the lecturer, forgot his name, is/was one of the experts that initially said the collapse of Building 7 was a "controlled demolition" however, he later withdrew that following his work into progressive collapse and involvement in preparing the BS.

One item of note that he did mention was that he believed or had been told that the Pentagon attack was actually a truck bomb not a plane. He was of the opinion that the US, given that 3 planes had already been hijacked and used as flying bombs (yes one didn't reach its target), used the excuse that it was a plane as they didn't want to admit that someone had penetrated the security of supposedly the most protected building on the planet. Now that could be a valid conspiracy theory for the tin foil hat brigade!

Check these links''' Very worrying stuffff!! [urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6Ynsv9tthI&feature=colike] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prOEcnot ... re=related[/url]

So objects are now not blown free during explosions?

Really?

It's great to see so many experts on the forum......

Someone simply placed it on the floor?

They didn't need a passport to proof anything. His name would of been down anyway on the flight log.

WHOA>>>hold up!!!

The explosion apparently melted steel. No plane fragments left, no nothing.
Yet his passport was miraculously found a few blocks away? Come on????

Even worse, given that the Pentagon explosion left not one fragment of the
plane.....

the perfectly clean and unblemished California ID card of Suzanne Calley,
42, one of the alleged victims killed aboard Flight 77 was found two days
after the attack.

The FBI went round planting evidence, end of story. Why is another matter.

You don't think the force of the impact could of blown a passport free?

You don't think the force of the impact could of blown a passport free?

NO NOT WHEN THEY COULDNT FIND ABIT OF AEROPLANE

You missed the planes flying into the building?

It was on the news and everything........

The passport was found in New York. f*cking hell.

And they found plenty parts.

What's funny is that the tards expect to more or a less see a entire plane. They forget that a plane is designed to fly and will be totally destroyed if flown full speed into a re-enforced building.

What do you lot think planes are made out of?

I have no doubt the documents found are planted. There is always a highly convenient paper trail left at the scene giving the public no doubt who was the perpetrator, take Oklahoma for example.

That being said, there is no way this was an inside job, far too many people would know about it. The government couldn't even keep Monica lewinsky quiet for gods sake.

What I believe did happen was they knew of the attack planned on the us before hand and simple allowed it to take place. They sent their airforce away on the day of the attack on training giving them plausible deniability and it's as simple as that.

As someone nice told me, assassinations don't just happen on us soil - they are allowed to happen, I firmly believe this is the case here.

And they found plenty parts.

What's funny is that the tards expect to more or a less see a entire plane. They forget that a plane is designed to fly and will be totally destroyed if flown full speed into a re-enforced building.

What do you lot think planes are made out of?

Ok. Cant be arsed. Im saying the FBI blatantly planted evidence, for whatever reason.
But you can be sure instructions came from the NSA.

Your saying different.

Fine

And they found plenty parts.

What's funny is that the tards expect to more or a less see a entire plane. They forget that a plane is designed to fly and will be totally destroyed if flown full speed into a re-enforced building.

What do you lot think planes are made out of?

If the plane is that fagile why did it result in both twin towers collapsing on their own footprint?

How many planes hit Building 7?

Why were they reporting on BBC News live that Building 7 had collapsed......approximately 20 minutes before it actually did?

If they claim that debris from the twin towers took down Building 7, why did many other buildings in the same radius not collapse?

And they found plenty parts.

What's funny is that the tards expect to more or a less see a entire plane. They forget that a plane is designed to fly and will be totally destroyed if flown full speed into a re-enforced building.

What do you lot think planes are made out of?

If the plane is that fagile why did it result in both twin towers collapsing on their own footprint?

Because it carries 63,000 gallons of aviation fluid which resulted in an inferno weakening the steel resulting in a pancake collapse.

How many planes hit Building 7?

None, nobody has ever claimed otherwise.

Why were they reporting on BBC News live that Building 7 had collapsed......approximately 20 minutes before it actually did?

You genuinelly believe this nonsense "they were given a script and they read it too early" line? Ffs man.

Thy were told it could come down at any time and will collapse imminently due to structural and fir damage being directly below the falling debris. In the fast paced nature of the event they said it had already collapsed. It happens.

If they claim that debris from the twin towers took down Building 7, why did many other buildings in the same radius not collapse?

Because they weren't damaged as badly perhaps?

Couldnt find the areroplane ? Well it flew In there Chiefs